All of a Sudden, There Aren’t Enough Electric Cars

Bar Sinister

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HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Bar Sinister and his deluded alter ego Cannuck HAVE NO TOPIC! Its why Bar keeps spouting the same old "you are off topic excuse- because he has run out of anti white and anti western propaganda and does not wish to be laughed at! And Cannuck simply mutters "to long and boring to read" because he is a typical graduate of our LIE-beral education system and does not have needed literacy to understand the posts!

It is the ugly reality that ALL LIE-beral policy is collapsing into the dirt that has both deluded socialists in a rage!

They are terrified their gravy train will be DERAILED!

THEY HAVE GOOD REASON TO FEAR!!!!!

Public patience with LIE-berals is GONE! Consider:



Ontari-owe Lieberals shower us in gifts- free day care, prescription drugs, more medical aid! Too bad they do not want to discuss the new fees, new taxes and massive new debts and costs for all that new BORROWED money!

LIE-berals own up to their true nature- premier Wynne is now openly trying to Buy that June 2018 election- but she does NOT wish to tell us who will be getting rthe bills if she is re-elected!

The public has recognized that no matter what Wynne-bag offers us- she will offer DOUBLE to her pals!

Whatever Wynne-bag “gives” us- we will have to pay for at least FOUR TIMES OVER!

WE will pay ONCE for what we actually use.

WE will pay TWICE for the double helping she gives to Hogs because they are ENTITLED!

And we will pay for the FOURTH TIME in interest on the BORROWED money!

LIE-berals are trying to lure us into their debt CAGE!

Ontari-owe LIE-beral Minister of Labour insists that LIE-beral minimum wage increase is good for families- WITHOUT BOTHERING to tell us how many new taxes and fees and revenue tools desperate for gravy at any price LIE-berals will bring in if they do win the June 2018 election!

No - I spout it because you are almost always off topic and your post proves it. The problem seems to be that you are too stupid to understand it.
 

spilledthebeer

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No - I spout it because you are almost always off topic and your post proves it. The problem seems to be that you are too stupid to understand it.

Poor Bar Silly sister....he has nothing to say and says it so poorly!


Here is an old article illustrating that left wing political bias can make any situation worse! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Alberta NDP making a bad situation worse

By Colin Craig, Winnipeg Sun. First posted: Sunday, June 26, 2016 09:46 PM EDT | Updated: Sunday, June 26, 2016 10:18 PM EDT

What’s going on right now in Alberta is truly sad. A once proud economic gem of a province is being ravaged by incompetent provincial government policy decisions.

While it’s true Alberta’s NDP government inherited a tough economic situation, they’ve made the situation worse … much worse. All of Canada should be watching Alberta and taking note of “what not to do.”

(Sadly, this is Not the first NDP disaster that Cdns should learn from! All of Ontari-owe recalls very clearly the NDP/Bob Rae disaster!)

The first lesson is simple – when a province’s key industry is suffering, kicking it while it’s down won’t help. But that’s exactly what Alberta’s government did.

(NDP logic is NO LOGIC! Our former NDP doofus Bob Rae decided he could make Ontari-owe RICH if only he could borrow enough money! Rae doubled the provincial debt and utterly FAILED to make us rich- apparently NDP`ers do NOT understand about interest rates- compounded and amortized! Even worse- Our idiot Boy Justin is engaged in an even larger and more damaging version of “get rich with borrowed money”! Lefties ARE SLOW LEARNERS!)

When Premier Notley and fifty rookie NDP MLAs were elected in 2015, it was clear that Alberta’s oil and gas sector was hurting. Oil prices had plummeted sharply and significant job losses were forecast for the province.

Her government responded by announcing a “royalty review”, a committee that would consider raising the charges oil and gas companies had to pay the government. While the Notley government didn’t proceed with any significant increases, nine months passed before the decision was announced, creating uncertainty and damaging investor confidence in the mean time – especially when juxtaposed with other concerning decisions.

(Leftie thought process proceeds by silly leaps of logic- the idea of making hated oil companies pay more seems to please NDP`ers- none of whom ever saw a profitable business they approved of! The problem with hitting corporations with higher costs is that civil service union Hogs own so much of the corporate stock that higher costs for biz mean LOWER payouts to Hog stock holders. Oopsie!)

Once Premier Notley settled into office, her government hired a plethora of political staff who had been quite vocal against the oil sector and pipelines. Further, one NDP Minister, Lori Sigurdson, even went to B.C. during the federal election to campaign for a candidate who had organized anti-pipeline rallies. If you were a global CEO would you want to invest $300 million in a project located in a jurisdiction run by anti-oil politicians and senior staff?

(And how much less excited would your CEO be about investing if you knew the political leaders were knuckleheads who did not understand about interest rates?)

Early on, the NDP government also raised business taxes by 20% – another significant blow to the oil and gas sector and other businesses. The tax increase starved businesses of millions of dollars they could have used to reinvest in their companies and create jobs. That’s lesson two: raiding businesses for money – especially during a recession – makes no sense. Doing so only reduces the amount of money those businesses have to employ people.

(OH its leftie priority! Hogs NEED money NOW- but biz responds more slowly- meaning NDP can worry about worker layoffs later! That most of the layoffs would be for hated oil workers messing in those dirty tar sands gives NDP greater incentive Not to be sympathetic to oil workers!)

Notley and team have also introduced large personal income tax increases and have planned to increase gas and carbon taxes by $10 billion over the next five years. Her government has also introduced radical reforms to the province’s electricity sector – changes which some experts have suggested could lead to a tripling of rates. Instead of learning from Ontario’s electricity reform debacle, Alberta is importing the same failed plan.

(All this is typical leftie policy! Socialism is NEVER Wrong- though individuals sometimes do make mistakes! Thus any part of NDP policy exposed as a failure is simply dismissed as a one time accident and will not be repeated- by the same govt in the near future- but putting in a new set of leaders is a “reset button”- magically making stupid old failed ideas into fresh new ones- that have not yet been disgraced!)

Finally, the NDP government has also started to fulfill its reckless commitment to raise the minimum wage from $10.20 to $15.00 by 2018. How can businesses afford a 47% increase to labour costs in just four years in the middle of a recession? Many can’t.

(IT is a telling indicator that when Ontari-owe raised its minimum wage in January 2018- the first act of LIE-berals was to hire a bunch more tax auditors! One quick way for companies to survive extreme tax stupidity is to deal in CASH and leave no records for Hogs to trace! There is even an economic formula for this crap, which dictates that after taxes reach a certain level- govt stops getting more revenue and ends up with LESS- because after a certain point it is cheaper to HIDE money than to pay taxes! Alberta Ndp will be finding this out the hard way! Another way for companies to survive a stupid tax regime is to cut hours of work and fire older workers at the high end of the pay scale- hence all the “new” jobs being created in Canada by companies that have dumped high wage earners and replaced them with low paid workers who are made to work with contract positions and temp work and etc!)

Recent news stories have noted the steep minimum wage hikes as a contributing factor to business closures and layoffs.

The NDP government’s defiance of economic common sense has definitely taken a bad situation and made it worse. Many fear the province’s surging 7.8% unemployment rate could get even worse.

That brings us to lesson three – if you elect politicians who run on a reckless economic platform, don’t be surprised if your economy suffers as a result.

(The BIG problem here in Canada is the 55 plus percent of Cdns who do not vote- ever- in any election! Sadly for NDPers and LIE-berals it does look as if the general public is now sufficiently enraged by all the tax gouging- in favour of LIE-berals and Hogs- that the general public is going to come out in force in the next election! If the silent majority chooses to speak- then left wing policy is liable to take a hit that will need twenty years to repair!)
 

Bar Sinister

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Poor Bar Silly sister....he has nothing to say and says it so poorly!


Here is an old article illustrating that left wing political bias can make any situation worse! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Alberta NDP making a bad situation worse

By Colin Craig, Winnipeg Sun. First posted: Sunday, June 26, 2016 09:46 PM EDT | Updated: Sunday, June 26, 2016 10:18 PM EDT

What’s going on right now in Alberta is truly sad. A once proud economic gem of a province is being ravaged by incompetent provincial government policy decisions.

While it’s true Alberta’s NDP government inherited a tough economic situation, they’ve made the situation worse … much worse. All of Canada should be watching Alberta and taking note of “what not to do.”

(Sadly, this is Not the first NDP disaster that Cdns should learn from! All of Ontari-owe recalls very clearly the NDP/Bob Rae disaster!)

The first lesson is simple – when a province’s key industry is suffering, kicking it while it’s down won’t help. But that’s exactly what Alberta’s government did.

(NDP logic is NO LOGIC! Our former NDP doofus Bob Rae decided he could make Ontari-owe RICH if only he could borrow enough money! Rae doubled the provincial debt and utterly FAILED to make us rich- apparently NDP`ers do NOT understand about interest rates- compounded and amortized! Even worse- Our idiot Boy Justin is engaged in an even larger and more damaging version of “get rich with borrowed money”! Lefties ARE SLOW LEARNERS!)

When Premier Notley and fifty rookie NDP MLAs were elected in 2015, it was clear that Alberta’s oil and gas sector was hurting. Oil prices had plummeted sharply and significant job losses were forecast for the province.

Her government responded by announcing a “royalty review”, a committee that would consider raising the charges oil and gas companies had to pay the government. While the Notley government didn’t proceed with any significant increases, nine months passed before the decision was announced, creating uncertainty and damaging investor confidence in the mean time – especially when juxtaposed with other concerning decisions.

(Leftie thought process proceeds by silly leaps of logic- the idea of making hated oil companies pay more seems to please NDP`ers- none of whom ever saw a profitable business they approved of! The problem with hitting corporations with higher costs is that civil service union Hogs own so much of the corporate stock that higher costs for biz mean LOWER payouts to Hog stock holders. Oopsie!)

Once Premier Notley settled into office, her government hired a plethora of political staff who had been quite vocal against the oil sector and pipelines. Further, one NDP Minister, Lori Sigurdson, even went to B.C. during the federal election to campaign for a candidate who had organized anti-pipeline rallies. If you were a global CEO would you want to invest $300 million in a project located in a jurisdiction run by anti-oil politicians and senior staff?

(And how much less excited would your CEO be about investing if you knew the political leaders were knuckleheads who did not understand about interest rates?)

Early on, the NDP government also raised business taxes by 20% – another significant blow to the oil and gas sector and other businesses. The tax increase starved businesses of millions of dollars they could have used to reinvest in their companies and create jobs. That’s lesson two: raiding businesses for money – especially during a recession – makes no sense. Doing so only reduces the amount of money those businesses have to employ people.

(OH its leftie priority! Hogs NEED money NOW- but biz responds more slowly- meaning NDP can worry about worker layoffs later! That most of the layoffs would be for hated oil workers messing in those dirty tar sands gives NDP greater incentive Not to be sympathetic to oil workers!)

Notley and team have also introduced large personal income tax increases and have planned to increase gas and carbon taxes by $10 billion over the next five years. Her government has also introduced radical reforms to the province’s electricity sector – changes which some experts have suggested could lead to a tripling of rates. Instead of learning from Ontario’s electricity reform debacle, Alberta is importing the same failed plan.

(All this is typical leftie policy! Socialism is NEVER Wrong- though individuals sometimes do make mistakes! Thus any part of NDP policy exposed as a failure is simply dismissed as a one time accident and will not be repeated- by the same govt in the near future- but putting in a new set of leaders is a “reset button”- magically making stupid old failed ideas into fresh new ones- that have not yet been disgraced!)

Finally, the NDP government has also started to fulfill its reckless commitment to raise the minimum wage from $10.20 to $15.00 by 2018. How can businesses afford a 47% increase to labour costs in just four years in the middle of a recession? Many can’t.

(IT is a telling indicator that when Ontari-owe raised its minimum wage in January 2018- the first act of LIE-berals was to hire a bunch more tax auditors! One quick way for companies to survive extreme tax stupidity is to deal in CASH and leave no records for Hogs to trace! There is even an economic formula for this crap, which dictates that after taxes reach a certain level- govt stops getting more revenue and ends up with LESS- because after a certain point it is cheaper to HIDE money than to pay taxes! Alberta Ndp will be finding this out the hard way! Another way for companies to survive a stupid tax regime is to cut hours of work and fire older workers at the high end of the pay scale- hence all the “new” jobs being created in Canada by companies that have dumped high wage earners and replaced them with low paid workers who are made to work with contract positions and temp work and etc!)

Recent news stories have noted the steep minimum wage hikes as a contributing factor to business closures and layoffs.

The NDP government’s defiance of economic common sense has definitely taken a bad situation and made it worse. Many fear the province’s surging 7.8% unemployment rate could get even worse.

That brings us to lesson three – if you elect politicians who run on a reckless economic platform, don’t be surprised if your economy suffers as a result.

(The BIG problem here in Canada is the 55 plus percent of Cdns who do not vote- ever- in any election! Sadly for NDPers and LIE-berals it does look as if the general public is now sufficiently enraged by all the tax gouging- in favour of LIE-berals and Hogs- that the general public is going to come out in force in the next election! If the silent majority chooses to speak- then left wing policy is liable to take a hit that will need twenty years to repair!)


Off topic and moronic as usual.
 

Danbones

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Because we have no money to buy those cars, because you freaks gave away all the jobs to the people who steal all the technology to make those cars in their coal powered commie eutopia where they have suicide nets for break time.
 

petros

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spilledthebeer

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The Baker was the star of the show in 1901. Here we are, 117 years later.

Chinese cars don't come close to our level of quality and safety.

Ever heard of micro cars?

Yeah- micro cars ARE NOT the future either! One should do a little reading about the Indian designed and made micro cars such a the Tata- a sedan designed to carry a family of 4 in a VERY SMALL SPACE!

Firstly- the car intended to replace motorcycles as family transport- and we have all seen news footage of 2-3 people piled on motorbikes weaving through heavy Indian traffic- the little car is a bit safer!

Second- the Tata was NOT designed for highways or long trips! It was assumed that Indian families would not have the gas money to travel far- and so to maximize interior car space- it was given 13 inch dia. wheels- with the result that if you drive it at 60 knh speeds for any real distance- the wheel bearings overheat and the wheels fall off!

Its still safer than 3 people on a motorbike- but not by much! And of course the Indians dod not even bother giving it a crash test rating!

LIE-beral policy is to jam us all into cities- with no place for parking a car and no money available to pay for a car either!

All of us peasants will live in concrete jungles while LIE-berals live in the green and pleasant countryside- and on weekends LIE-berals will zoom around on their many gas guzzling toys while we look at electric car brochures that we cannot afford!

LIE-beral hypocrisy is so huge it makes the "divine right of Kings" look mild and almost reasonable!

What are we to make of a "green" prime minister who sees nothing wrong with flying about in a private helicopter owned by the Aga Khan- think of the gas bill for the copter- versus the cost of a boat ride!

And Aga Khan is the guy who gets millions of dollars every year in govt grants! And one of his "charity" operations is to present Islam in a milder and more appealing light!
 

Bar Sinister

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The Baker was the star of the show in 1901. Here we are, 117 years later.

Chinese cars don't come close to our level of quality and safety.

Ever heard of micro cars?

How would you know? I doubt you've ever seen a Chinese electric car. BTW which of these made-in-China products are you going to stop using? - Your phone - almost every electrical appliance you own - and the numerous made-in-China components found in many US autos.

BTW here is a picture of a made-in-China car.



If you recognize it as a luxury Buick you are very observant.

Buick Envision is designed in Michigan but made in China. Last year 3,139 of the luxury SUVs were sold back to the U.S. and subject to a 25 per cent import tax. The automaker says consumer appetite in the United States isn’t large enough to sustain a local factory.
 

petros

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How would you know? I doubt you've ever seen a Chinese electric car. BTW which of these made-in-China products are you going to stop using? - Your phone - almost every electrical appliance you own - and the numerous made-in-China components found in many US autos.

BTW here is a picture of a made-in-China car.



If you recognize it as a luxury Buick you are very observant.

Buick Envision is designed in Michigan but made in China. Last year 3,139 of the luxury SUVs were sold back to the U.S. and subject to a 25 per cent import tax. The automaker says consumer appetite in the United States isn’t large enough to sustain a local factory.

You doubted wrong. A vehicle for our market isn't the same for the Asian market.

In the not too distant past Canadian cars had higher standards than US cars and US cars couldn't be imported from the US.

Just because a car manufactured in China for for export meets our standards doesn't mean the same standard go into cars for the Asian market.

You can buy a non CSA approved light socket from China but if it fails and burns down your house, kiss insurance good bye.
 

Hoid

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How would you know? I doubt you've ever seen a Chinese electric car. BTW which of these made-in-China products are you going to stop using? - Your phone - almost every electrical appliance you own - and the numerous made-in-China components found in many US autos.

BTW here is a picture of a made-in-China car.



If you recognize it as a luxury Buick you are very observant.

Buick Envision is designed in Michigan but made in China. Last year 3,139 of the luxury SUVs were sold back to the U.S. and subject to a 25 per cent import tax. The automaker says consumer appetite in the United States isn’t large enough to sustain a local factory.
This is so interesting when you consider Ford is getting out of cars and more into SUVs.

Chinese-made SUVs?
 

Bar Sinister

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Says quite a bit, doesn't it?

Yes - what is says is that people don't want to buy luxury model Buicks. What did you think it said? It's not an electric car.

You doubted wrong. A vehicle for our market isn't the same for the Asian market.

In the not too distant past Canadian cars had higher standards than US cars and US cars couldn't be imported from the US.

Just because a car manufactured in China for for export meets our standards doesn't mean the same standard go into cars for the Asian market.

You can buy a non CSA approved light socket from China but if it fails and burns down your house, kiss insurance good bye.

Yes - guess we should stop using all those Asian products from south Korea and Japan. BTW - where do you think your CSA approved light sockets come from? If you can find one made in Canada I would be surprised. And what do import regulations have to do with electric car taking over? The writing is on the wall for the internal combustion engine. I realize this will upset your comfortable pollution and noise filled lifestyle, but somehow I don't really care.
 

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Yes - what is says is that people don't want to buy luxury model Buicks. What did you think it said? It's not an electric car.

That's one interpretation although likely way off the mark.

The more accurate explanation is that these EVs are entirely impractical, everyone knows it and the massive lack of acceptance and sales is a reflection of such
 

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That's one interpretation although likely way off the mark.

The more accurate explanation is that these EVs are entirely impractical, everyone knows it and the massive lack of acceptance and sales is a reflection of such
But oil is dead .
 

spilledthebeer

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How would you know? I doubt you've ever seen a Chinese electric car. BTW which of these made-in-China products are you going to stop using? - Your phone - almost every electrical appliance you own - and the numerous made-in-China components found in many US autos.

BTW here is a picture of a made-in-China car.



If you recognize it as a luxury Buick you are very observant.

Buick Envision is designed in Michigan but made in China. Last year 3,139 of the luxury SUVs were sold back to the U.S. and subject to a 25 per cent import tax. The automaker says consumer appetite in the United States isn’t large enough to sustain a local factory.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! It was designed by Yankees because China cannot do it themselves!

It is a rice burner Trabant- the Chinese version of the Soviet Peoples car- the one former Soviets DUMPED at the side of the road- not even worth the bother of hauling to a scrap metal dealer- just as soon as they could get a western car!!

Bar Silly Sister supports this LIE-beral style THEFT simply because he hates the west!