All of a Sudden, There Aren’t Enough Electric Cars

Bar Sinister

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Oh poor Bar Sinister- he is so poor a debater he follows LIE-beral rules- which defines a person as wrong or off topic if the points being made dispute LIE-beral othodoxy! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

WE have already established that electric toys being made by Tesla and other moudly green companies exist ONLY because LIE-berals are wasting huge amounts of our tax money to bribe the builders! We have also established that LIE-berals are bribing select groups such as natives so LIE-berals can cling to power at any price!

You've proved...? The only things you have proved is that:

1. You can't read
2. You don't understand posted evidence
3. That you don't know what thread to post you nonsense in - I've got a suggestion, try Fun and Jokes.
 

Bar Sinister

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He does a lot better than the average fakenews climate commentaryistas do at presenting a logical case for his views.

For the glowball warming advocates who can't do reality:
;)
More spring snow in Chicago, and forecasters call April's start among coldest in 130 years
More spring snow in Chicago, and forecasters call April's start among coldest in 130 years - Chicago Tribune

ooops
So much for un corrected data eh?

What's corrected? The weather report? Try again - perhaps an irrelevant reference to George Soros would help.
 

spilledthebeer

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Including hybrids there are over 5 million in the US alone. I'd drive one tomorrow if the range was better. That'll come. Much to the chagrin of those stuck in the 1900s


HAHAHAHA!!!! Cannuck tells us he would drive an electric toy car "TOMORROW if the range was better"! And there is the heart and soul of the LIE-beral dilemma- they desperately want the gravy they can skim off the electric toy car biz- but cannot figure out how to force us to accept their CRAP electric toy car deal!

There are SO MANY pesky obstacles to wide spread electric toy use- such as double cost compared to gas cars- even with MASSIVE LIE-beral subsidies; then add in crap range under ideal circumstances- that gets even worse once you are down close to freezing temperatures- and then start running lighrs and a heater- which means NO BATTERY currently being made- or even sitting in an experimental laboratory will hold a full/decent charge in Cdn winter; add in slow refueling times- with that not being helped as Ontari-owe LIE-berals screw up charging installations; then watch as people are shocked and repelled by video showing how easily lithium bursts into flames just as soon as it is exposed to air- like in a car crash!

WE have all seen gas cars leaking fluids after a crash and lithium appears to be even more flammable than gas since gas requires a source of ignition but lithium does NOT- contact with air is enough- and lithium fore requires equipment that is NOT currently available to Cdn fire depts!

Gosh- those electric cars sure sound like a BARGAIN dont they! Only a LIE-beral would offer up such a good deal to us with a straight face! But then LIE-beral Dalton McGinty offered us 10 percent off our car insurance- and later Wynne-bag offered us 15 percent off!

Too bad NONE of these LIE-berals mentioned ANYTHING about the FIFTY PERCENT DROP in medical benefits for crash victims!

ALL LIE-beral policy is collapsing in disgrace and all rthey offer us is more FAKE NEWS as a defense!
 

captain morgan

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Big reason that there are so few EVs has more to do with groups like Tesla being unable to manufacture enough EVs that aren't riddled with many problems.

They should spend less time making announcements about new tractor trailers and new stylish offerings and more time trying to get their manufacturing capacity up and produce a car that works
 

Bar Sinister

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Big reason that there are so few EVs has more to do with groups like Tesla being unable to manufacture enough EVs that aren't riddled with many problems.

They should spend less time making announcements about new tractor trailers and new stylish offerings and more time trying to get their manufacturing capacity up and produce a car that works

You and so many others have Tesla vision. The biggest manufacturers of electric cars are the Chines and they and several dozen other auto makers are racing one another to set the industry standard. That is why so many nations are supporting electric car development. The winner will make billions.
 

spilledthebeer

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You and so many others have Tesla vision. The biggest manufacturers of electric cars are the Chines and they and several dozen other auto makers are racing one another to set the industry standard. That is why so many nations are supporting electric car development. The winner will make billions.

Oh HAHAHAHAHA!!!! TESLA VISION the LIE-beral whines! THERE IS THE STANDARD LIE-BERAL HYPOCRISY!!!!

And how many CHINESE designed/made/built are in North America? Why NONE! Certainly car makers use assorted Chinese parts but full cars imported from Chinese makers- NO! Oh sure- you can buy an Chinese made electric scooter but Chinese electric cars are apparently reserved for their local consumers! Its all part of the Chinese manipulation of their currency!

By making electric cars for their local consumers and keeping out other makers they produce a captive market with a monopoly!

BY crushing their free market and giving citizens the the stark choice- buy OUR electric car or WALK- they ensure sales of their electric toy cars!

This of course is the discriminatory market rigging crap that is behind LIE-beral bribery in favour of electric car makers- with the added bonus that LIE-berals expect to make A LOT OF GRAVY from their giant electricity slush fund!

It is this deliberate LIE-beral effort to create a monopoly they expect to profit hugely from that is going to kill the electric car- voters simply cannot and will not pay for the full range of LIE-beral entitlements and insane greed!

WE are so deeply indebted there is no money to pay for electric toys!

LIE-beral apologists such as Bar Sinister can spout all the duplicitous propaganda he wants but the voters have decided that he and others like him are spewing fresh, ripe, organic, straight from the back of the Bull fertilizer!
 

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The Telsacentric view is in line with the deniers standard ops.

No issue is too complex for simple answers to simple questions.
 

Bar Sinister

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Oh HAHAHAHAHA!!!! TESLA VISION the LIE-beral whines! THERE IS THE STANDARD LIE-BERAL HYPOCRISY!!!!

And how many CHINESE designed/made/built are in North America? Why NONE! Certainly car makers use assorted Chinese parts but full cars imported from Chinese makers- NO! Oh sure- you can buy an Chinese made electric scooter but Chinese electric cars are apparently reserved for their local consumers! Its all part of the Chinese manipulation of their currency!

By making electric cars for their local consumers and keeping out other makers they produce a captive market with a monopoly!

BY crushing their free market and giving citizens the the stark choice- buy OUR electric car or WALK- they ensure sales of their electric toy cars!

This of course is the discriminatory market rigging crap that is behind LIE-beral bribery in favour of electric car makers- with the added bonus that LIE-berals expect to make A LOT OF GRAVY from their giant electricity slush fund!

It is this deliberate LIE-beral effort to create a monopoly they expect to profit hugely from that is going to kill the electric car- voters simply cannot and will not pay for the full range of LIE-beral entitlements and insane greed!

WE are so deeply indebted there is no money to pay for electric toys!

LIE-beral apologists such as Bar Sinister can spout all the duplicitous propaganda he wants but the voters have decided that he and others like him are spewing fresh, ripe, organic, straight from the back of the Bull fertilizer!

Got a few questions for you, genius. How many Japanese cars were there in North America in 1960? How many Korean cars were there in North America in 1970? How many German cars were there in North America in 1950? People like you get blindsided because the blinkers you wear don't allow you to see the whole picture.
 

spilledthebeer

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Got a few questions for you, genius. How many Japanese cars were there in North America in 1960? How many Korean cars were there in North America in 1970? How many German cars were there in North America in 1950? People like you get blindsided because the blinkers you wear don't allow you to see the whole picture.

Oh poor Bar Sinister- his beloved LIE-berals are going down in flames- riding into the sunset in their scorned electric toy cars! And the really sad part of that LIE-beral disgrace is that Bar does not know enough about money, or economic or international trade to understand the problem! HAHAHAHA!!!!

Here is yet another article giving the LIE to LIE-beral claims our economy is “booming”. With some comments of my own in brackets):

EDITORIAL: Ontario households drowning in red ink

Postmedia News. Published: January 23, 2018. Updated: January 23, 2018 4:27 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Editorials

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Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne talks to media at the Confederation of Tomorrow 2.0 Conference in Toronto on Tuesday December 12, 2017. The premier of Ontario is accusing the children of Tim Hortons' billionaire co-founders of bullying their employees by reducing their benefits in response to the province's increased minimum wage.THE CANADIAN PRESS/Chris Young.

(What a laugh- premier Wynne-bag dumps massive energy costs on all of us and then hits retailers with major wage increases that they cannot absorb easily- and yet she blames small biz as bullies! Anybody who thinks that NHL hockey players from the 1960`s were rich ought to recall that Bobby Baun- the guy who scored the winning goal last time Leafs won a Stanley Cup was TRADED because he wanted a $1500 dollar raise on top of his $17 thousand dollar salary! Whatever money the Horton family has at this time was EARNED the old fashioned and HARD WAY!)

(Wynne-bag plays ugly political games when she blames “wealthy” people for trying to keep their business moving! The Horton grand children operate a FRANCHISE in Cobourg- a pretty little town that time forgot- located in Northumberland County- the POOREST county in Ontari-owe- there is NO ROOM for higher prices there!)

When Bank of Canada Governor Stephen Poloz recently announced a hike in interest rates — even though it was just a quarter of a point — too many people immediately went into a panic

Raising a bank’s benchmark lending rate by a quarter of a percentage point from the almost as-low-as-you-can-go 1%, should not have folks figuratively standing on the ledge and looking to jump.

But it did.

(This is a classic indicator of how tightly stretched is our grossly indebted society! LIE-berals have pushed us into previously un-imagined levels of debt! LIE-berals have INSISTED that our massive debt is manageable as long as interest rates stay low and the economy is stable- with LIE-berals deliberately screwing up NAFTA because they hate Yankees and with LIE-berals further breaking the bank by importing masses of illegals who will require COSTLY govt aid over a LONG TERM just to survive here!)

While low interest rates going back to 2010 have supported economic growth, they have also created a situation where people — especially Ontarians — are spending beyond their means and racking up debt hand-over-fist, all in the great hope that interest rates will forever remain low.

Ontario’s Financial Accountability Office (FAO) just released a report assessing the debt burden of our province’s households, and the financial vulnerability they are facing as interest rates begin to creep higher.

And it doesn’t look good.

Last year, says the FAO, the average Ontario household owed nearly $154,000, up $35,000 from 2010.

Of that, $103,000 was mortgage indebtedness.

But the days of cheap mortgage loans are coming to an end.

(This constant referral to mortgage debt avoids the fiscal reality- only about half of Cdns own their residence- the rest RENT- and are getting killed by rental costs that jump much faster than their frozen wages or the taxes they must pay! People who own property are relatively safe- for now- mortgage rates are not likely to increase nearly as fast as rents have done! And as we saw last summer-2017- in the Parkdale rent strike- those 11 buildings were owned by Alberta municipal employees- they price gouge us- with LIE-beral aid- on taxes and they price gouge us on rents and on electricity costs! Civil service union Hogs and their LIE-beral enablers are quite literally running a weird protection racket on us of the sort the Mafia would be jealous of!)

As a share to disposable income, total household debt reached a whopping $171% in 2016 — 21% higher than in 2010, and 8% higher than households in the rest of Canada.

We can blame the Wynne Liberals for a portion of this, of course, since they are driving people out of house and home with the tax costs associated with various billion-dollar boondoggles, their green energy experiment that lit a rocket under electricity rates, and their lust to put everything on the credit card.

Free pharmacare for young people and free college and university tuition, to cite just two recent Liberal boasts, are not “free.”

They cost each and every Ontario taxpayer a little more of their disposable income to the point that it is now drowning in red ink.

Soon to be gone as interest rates rise, and debt payments build, is the discretionary money that households use to bring a little joy into their lives with occasional nights out at restaurants and putting their kids in sports programs.

The time is now, therefore, to get our households in order.

If not sooner.

(The time for repairing damage quickly or easily is LONG PAST! CTV did a video segment in an Ottawa sandwich shop- with the immigrant owner pointing first to the civil service Hogs lined up out the door at lunch time and then to his own immigrant staff of 6 new Cdns and he asked a very simple question: “how many of my staff must I lay off if civil service Hog pay is reduced and they stop coming to my shop”? And there is the fiscal devil in the details- our economy is already so dependent on borrowed money that cutting that mad LIE-beral borrowing will be like weaning a junkie off heroin! It MUST be done- but we KNOW it will hurt!)
 

petros

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Oh poor Bar Sinister- his beloved LIE-berals are going down in flames- riding into the sunset in their scorned electric toy cars! And the really sad part of that LIE-beral disgrace is that Bar does not know enough about money, or economic or international trade to understand the problem! HAHAHAHA!!!!

Here is yet another article giving the LIE to LIE-beral claims our economy is “booming”. With some comments of my own in brackets):

EDITORIAL: Ontario households drowning in red ink

Postmedia News. Published: January 23, 2018. Updated: January 23, 2018 4:27 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Editorials

Related

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Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne talks to media at the Confederation of Tomorrow 2.0 Conference in Toronto on Tuesday December 12, 2017. The premier of Ontario is accusing the children of Tim Hortons' billionaire co-founders of bullying their employees by reducing their benefits in response to the province's increased minimum wage.THE CANADIAN PRESS/Chris Young.

(What a laugh- premier Wynne-bag dumps massive energy costs on all of us and then hits retailers with major wage increases that they cannot absorb easily- and yet she blames small biz as bullies! Anybody who thinks that NHL hockey players from the 1960`s were rich ought to recall that Bobby Baun- the guy who scored the winning goal last time Leafs won a Stanley Cup was TRADED because he wanted a $1500 dollar raise on top of his $17 thousand dollar salary! Whatever money the Horton family has at this time was EARNED the old fashioned and HARD WAY!)

(Wynne-bag plays ugly political games when she blames “wealthy” people for trying to keep their business moving! The Horton grand children operate a FRANCHISE in Cobourg- a pretty little town that time forgot- located in Northumberland County- the POOREST county in Ontari-owe- there is NO ROOM for higher prices there!)

When Bank of Canada Governor Stephen Poloz recently announced a hike in interest rates — even though it was just a quarter of a point — too many people immediately went into a panic

Raising a bank’s benchmark lending rate by a quarter of a percentage point from the almost as-low-as-you-can-go 1%, should not have folks figuratively standing on the ledge and looking to jump.

But it did.

(This is a classic indicator of how tightly stretched is our grossly indebted society! LIE-berals have pushed us into previously un-imagined levels of debt! LIE-berals have INSISTED that our massive debt is manageable as long as interest rates stay low and the economy is stable- with LIE-berals deliberately screwing up NAFTA because they hate Yankees and with LIE-berals further breaking the bank by importing masses of illegals who will require COSTLY govt aid over a LONG TERM just to survive here!)

While low interest rates going back to 2010 have supported economic growth, they have also created a situation where people — especially Ontarians — are spending beyond their means and racking up debt hand-over-fist, all in the great hope that interest rates will forever remain low.

Ontario’s Financial Accountability Office (FAO) just released a report assessing the debt burden of our province’s households, and the financial vulnerability they are facing as interest rates begin to creep higher.

And it doesn’t look good.

Last year, says the FAO, the average Ontario household owed nearly $154,000, up $35,000 from 2010.

Of that, $103,000 was mortgage indebtedness.

But the days of cheap mortgage loans are coming to an end.

(This constant referral to mortgage debt avoids the fiscal reality- only about half of Cdns own their residence- the rest RENT- and are getting killed by rental costs that jump much faster than their frozen wages or the taxes they must pay! People who own property are relatively safe- for now- mortgage rates are not likely to increase nearly as fast as rents have done! And as we saw last summer-2017- in the Parkdale rent strike- those 11 buildings were owned by Alberta municipal employees- they price gouge us- with LIE-beral aid- on taxes and they price gouge us on rents and on electricity costs! Civil service union Hogs and their LIE-beral enablers are quite literally running a weird protection racket on us of the sort the Mafia would be jealous of!)

As a share to disposable income, total household debt reached a whopping $171% in 2016 — 21% higher than in 2010, and 8% higher than households in the rest of Canada.

We can blame the Wynne Liberals for a portion of this, of course, since they are driving people out of house and home with the tax costs associated with various billion-dollar boondoggles, their green energy experiment that lit a rocket under electricity rates, and their lust to put everything on the credit card.

Free pharmacare for young people and free college and university tuition, to cite just two recent Liberal boasts, are not “free.”

They cost each and every Ontario taxpayer a little more of their disposable income to the point that it is now drowning in red ink.

Soon to be gone as interest rates rise, and debt payments build, is the discretionary money that households use to bring a little joy into their lives with occasional nights out at restaurants and putting their kids in sports programs.

The time is now, therefore, to get our households in order.

If not sooner.

(The time for repairing damage quickly or easily is LONG PAST! CTV did a video segment in an Ottawa sandwich shop- with the immigrant owner pointing first to the civil service Hogs lined up out the door at lunch time and then to his own immigrant staff of 6 new Cdns and he asked a very simple question: “how many of my staff must I lay off if civil service Hog pay is reduced and they stop coming to my shop”? And there is the fiscal devil in the details- our economy is already so dependent on borrowed money that cutting that mad LIE-beral borrowing will be like weaning a junkie off heroin! It MUST be done- but we KNOW it will hurt!)

Wynne going to cut Tim Horton's subsidies?
 

captain morgan

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Ontario is so far in the hole that it's inconceivable that the current crop of politicos will have the balls to take the bull by the horns on this file, especially now that an election is looming
 

Bar Sinister

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Jan 17, 2010
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Oh poor Bar Sinister- his beloved LIE-berals are going down in flames- riding into the sunset in their scorned electric toy cars! And the really sad part of that LIE-beral disgrace is that Bar does not know enough about money, or economic or international trade to understand the problem! HAHAHAHA!!!!

Here is yet another article giving the LIE to LIE-beral claims our economy is “booming”. With some comments of my own in brackets):

EDITORIAL: Ontario households drowning in red ink

Postmedia News. Published: January 23, 2018. Updated: January 23, 2018 4:27 PM EST

Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Editorials

Related

Editorials
BONOKOSKI: A new puzzle to Where's Waldo: Where's Trudeau?
News
FUREY: Muslim Attacks in Canada 'likely to continue'
Columnists
GUNTER: To Trudeau, pro-lifers worse than jihadists

Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne talks to media at the Confederation of Tomorrow 2.0 Conference in Toronto on Tuesday December 12, 2017. The premier of Ontario is accusing the children of Tim Hortons' billionaire co-founders of bullying their employees by reducing their benefits in response to the province's increased minimum wage.THE CANADIAN PRESS/Chris Young.

(What a laugh- premier Wynne-bag dumps massive energy costs on all of us and then hits retailers with major wage increases that they cannot absorb easily- and yet she blames small biz as bullies! Anybody who thinks that NHL hockey players from the 1960`s were rich ought to recall that Bobby Baun- the guy who scored the winning goal last time Leafs won a Stanley Cup was TRADED because he wanted a $1500 dollar raise on top of his $17 thousand dollar salary! Whatever money the Horton family has at this time was EARNED the old fashioned and HARD WAY!)

(Wynne-bag plays ugly political games when she blames “wealthy” people for trying to keep their business moving! The Horton grand children operate a FRANCHISE in Cobourg- a pretty little town that time forgot- located in Northumberland County- the POOREST county in Ontari-owe- there is NO ROOM for higher prices there!)

When Bank of Canada Governor Stephen Poloz recently announced a hike in interest rates — even though it was just a quarter of a point — too many people immediately went into a panic

Raising a bank’s benchmark lending rate by a quarter of a percentage point from the almost as-low-as-you-can-go 1%, should not have folks figuratively standing on the ledge and looking to jump.

But it did.

(This is a classic indicator of how tightly stretched is our grossly indebted society! LIE-berals have pushed us into previously un-imagined levels of debt! LIE-berals have INSISTED that our massive debt is manageable as long as interest rates stay low and the economy is stable- with LIE-berals deliberately screwing up NAFTA because they hate Yankees and with LIE-berals further breaking the bank by importing masses of illegals who will require COSTLY govt aid over a LONG TERM just to survive here!)

While low interest rates going back to 2010 have supported economic growth, they have also created a situation where people — especially Ontarians — are spending beyond their means and racking up debt hand-over-fist, all in the great hope that interest rates will forever remain low.

Ontario’s Financial Accountability Office (FAO) just released a report assessing the debt burden of our province’s households, and the financial vulnerability they are facing as interest rates begin to creep higher.

And it doesn’t look good.

Last year, says the FAO, the average Ontario household owed nearly $154,000, up $35,000 from 2010.

Of that, $103,000 was mortgage indebtedness.

But the days of cheap mortgage loans are coming to an end.

(This constant referral to mortgage debt avoids the fiscal reality- only about half of Cdns own their residence- the rest RENT- and are getting killed by rental costs that jump much faster than their frozen wages or the taxes they must pay! People who own property are relatively safe- for now- mortgage rates are not likely to increase nearly as fast as rents have done! And as we saw last summer-2017- in the Parkdale rent strike- those 11 buildings were owned by Alberta municipal employees- they price gouge us- with LIE-beral aid- on taxes and they price gouge us on rents and on electricity costs! Civil service union Hogs and their LIE-beral enablers are quite literally running a weird protection racket on us of the sort the Mafia would be jealous of!)

As a share to disposable income, total household debt reached a whopping $171% in 2016 — 21% higher than in 2010, and 8% higher than households in the rest of Canada.

We can blame the Wynne Liberals for a portion of this, of course, since they are driving people out of house and home with the tax costs associated with various billion-dollar boondoggles, their green energy experiment that lit a rocket under electricity rates, and their lust to put everything on the credit card.

Free pharmacare for young people and free college and university tuition, to cite just two recent Liberal boasts, are not “free.”

They cost each and every Ontario taxpayer a little more of their disposable income to the point that it is now drowning in red ink.

Soon to be gone as interest rates rise, and debt payments build, is the discretionary money that households use to bring a little joy into their lives with occasional nights out at restaurants and putting their kids in sports programs.

The time is now, therefore, to get our households in order.

If not sooner.

(The time for repairing damage quickly or easily is LONG PAST! CTV did a video segment in an Ottawa sandwich shop- with the immigrant owner pointing first to the civil service Hogs lined up out the door at lunch time and then to his own immigrant staff of 6 new Cdns and he asked a very simple question: “how many of my staff must I lay off if civil service Hog pay is reduced and they stop coming to my shop”? And there is the fiscal devil in the details- our economy is already so dependent on borrowed money that cutting that mad LIE-beral borrowing will be like weaning a junkie off heroin! It MUST be done- but we KNOW it will hurt!)


What a lot of wind. Is it possible for you to stay even remotely on topic?

Way too long and boring to read

Don't worry about it. As usual it was massively off-topic.
 

spilledthebeer

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What a lot of wind. Is it possible for you to stay even remotely on topic?



Don't worry about it. As usual it was massively off-topic.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Bar Sinister and his deluded alter ego Cannuck HAVE NO TOPIC! Its why Bar keeps spouting the same old "you are off topic excuse- because he has run out of anti white and anti western propaganda and does not wish to be laughed at! And Cannuck simply mutters "to long and boring to read" because he is a typical graduate of our LIE-beral education system and does not have needed literacy to understand the posts!

It is the ugly reality that ALL LIE-beral policy is collapsing into the dirt that has both deluded socialists in a rage!

They are terrified their gravy train will be DERAILED!

THEY HAVE GOOD REASON TO FEAR!!!!!

Public patience with LIE-berals is GONE! Consider:



Ontari-owe Lieberals shower us in gifts- free day care, prescription drugs, more medical aid! Too bad they do not want to discuss the new fees, new taxes and massive new debts and costs for all that new BORROWED money!

LIE-berals own up to their true nature- premier Wynne is now openly trying to Buy that June 2018 election- but she does NOT wish to tell us who will be getting rthe bills if she is re-elected!

The public has recognized that no matter what Wynne-bag offers us- she will offer DOUBLE to her pals!

Whatever Wynne-bag “gives” us- we will have to pay for at least FOUR TIMES OVER!

WE will pay ONCE for what we actually use.

WE will pay TWICE for the double helping she gives to Hogs because they are ENTITLED!

And we will pay for the FOURTH TIME in interest on the BORROWED money!

LIE-berals are trying to lure us into their debt CAGE!

Ontari-owe LIE-beral Minister of Labour insists that LIE-beral minimum wage increase is good for families- WITHOUT BOTHERING to tell us how many new taxes and fees and revenue tools desperate for gravy at any price LIE-berals will bring in if they do win the June 2018 election!