Alberta passes .05% law that was just declared unconstitutional in BC

petros

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Not to some. They believe that the sleepy driver should be sent on his way and the wide awake driver should be thrown in jail. Then they try and claim it is a road safety issue....go figure.
I'm happy with the 24hr roadside suspensions based on the professional opinon of the attending officer. I've lost too many friends and family to booze and dope to not support it.
 

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If there is a belief that .05 is the new threshold then the groups in question should lobby the Fed to change the law. Personally I think it is nothing less than making a few bucks off of an often emotional and raw subject for some.
 

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If there is a belief that .05 is the new threshold then the groups in question should lobby the Fed to change the law. Personally I think it is nothing less than making a few bucks off of an often emotional and raw subject for some.
0.04 in SK, Impairment is impairment. As a person who rarly drinks, two beer is enough to make me fumble and I won't dare drive.

And that isn't an emotional opinion.
 
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I'm happy with the 24hr roadside suspensions based on the professional opinon of the attending officer. I've lost too many friends and family to booze and dope to not support it.

A standardized roadside test takes much of it out of the hands of the officer and practically every police car has a camera so there is evidence of the test. Give a basic road side test and a 24 hour regardless of the cause of the impairment (if one exists).

My issue is that the cops are so tied up with minor stuff, they aren't focusing on the major stuff. Drunk driving deaths invariably involve those that are significantly over the legal limit. Too many people buy into the statistics without considering how they are arrived at. There is a reason the term "alcohol is a factor" is used and not "alcohol was the cause"
 

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Fail the dance in SK and you get a 24hr roadside whether you were drinking, getting high, on cough syrup or simply tired. Impaired is impaired is impaired.
 

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There is a reason the term "alcohol is a factor" is used and not "alcohol was the cause"

Duh!!!!!!!!!!! Falling asleep at the wheel, icy roads, poor visibility, speed, hitting a frost boil, could also all be factors combined to form the cause.

Fail the dance in SK and you get a 24hr roadside whether you were drinking, getting high, on cough syrup or simply tired. Impaired is impaired is impaired.

How do they test for "tired"?
 

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Duh!!!!!!!!!!! Falling asleep at the wheel, icy roads, poor visibility, speed, hitting a frost boil, could also all be factors combined to form the cause.



How do they test for "tired"?
Reaction time, balance, cognative responses, all similar to alcohol impairment.

Accidents related to sleep deprivation have been estimated to have an annual economic impact of $43 to $56 billion.
Leger D. The cost of sleep-related accidents: a report for the National Commission on Sleep Disorders Research. Sleep 1994;17:84-93
 

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Reaction time, balance, cognative responses, all similar to alcohol impairment.

If I have a beer after work and drive home, you run a red light stone cold sober and T-bone me, alcohol is a factor in that crash....statistically speaking.
 

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If I have a beer after work and drive home, you run a red light stone cold sober and T-bone me, alcohol is a factor in that crash....statistically speaking.
It's not a factor in the crash, only a statistic that won't go in the "contributed to" column.
 

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If I have a beer after work and drive home, you run a red light stone cold sober and T-bone me, alcohol is a factor in that crash....statistically speaking.

Yep, maybe if you hadn't had the beer, you may have corrected to avoid the accident.

It's not a factor in the crash, only a statistic that won't go in the "contributed to" column.

Why couldn't it be a factor?
 

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I'm happy with the 24hr roadside suspensions based on the professional opinon of the attending officer. I've lost too many friends and family to booze and dope to not support it.

Is that the proffesional opinion of some 22 year old rookie who doesn't know his asshole from his breakfast or a 22 year veteran who doesn't like the way you look or something you said to him?

I have a problem with making the cops judges and juries on the side of the road. That is not how our charter and constitution is set up.
 

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Is that the proffesional opinion of some 22 year old rookie who doesn't know his asshole from his breakfast or a 22 year veteran who doesn't like the way you look or something you said to him?

I have a problem with making the cops judges and juries on the side of the road. That is not how our charter and constitution is set up.

That's the natural order of things, don't matter whether you get plumber, doctor, lawyer, upholsterer, mechanic..............it's all the luck of the draw, but at least with impaired driving YOU have the ultimate control by not drinking.