Alberta GTFO?

Dixie Cup

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More real than you, Taxy.



I thought the consensus was "Alberta isn't leaving"? Now it is?



Does that include Alberta?



LOL - French isn't "rammed down your throat" Tax. That only happens in Quebec.



Alberta has no coast.

BC on the other hand does, and a lot of it is ecologically sensitive.

I know you don't give a shit but there are people who make a living off those coasts who'd like to continue such.



I DO agree that Canada needs to stop this practice, yes. The easiest way would be reduction in the amount of milking cows which reduces the production and thus there's less milk out there so what's produced is all used.

Or whatever other ideas can be made of it.

BTW, US dairy ALSO dumps milk, due to demand (which is like why they do so in Canada) so I guess... you don't resolve the issue after all.



Sure; because if BC and Alberta went to the US with their softwood lumber now being part of the country, your woods would be stripped in no time. I guess money DOES grow on(from) trees!



You know if certain provinces didn't vote against their best interests, they wouldn't have issues "making deals".

As it is, it's only Alberta and Saskatchewan - or rather, certain select idiots of their population - that are Maple MAGA enough to hate Canada and want to be American. And if you-they want that, just leave already, stop bitching and go.
Huh, I haven't heard anyone from Alberta say they want to be part of the U.S. From what I understand it's either "go it alone" or "stay in Canada" as the 2 options. The "go it alone" might include Sask but as it stands now, not so much.
 

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Huh, I haven't heard anyone from Alberta say they want to be part of the U.S. From what I understand it's either "go it alone" or "stay in Canada" as the 2 options. The "go it alone" might include Sask but as it stands now, not so much.
AB and SK were supposed to be one Province called Buffalo all along but it would have been more powerful than Quebec and Ontario.
 

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If we take our cake, there won't be a Canada.
At different times there has been talk of a new WEST called Cascadia. That would be the western provinces and western states, except California. Seems no one wants them. Haven't heard much about this in the last few years. Could have something to do with Washington and Oregon trying to out left California.
Maybe some people who aren't whiny fantasists reflect on what happened last time some states decided to leave.
 

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You seem to think Canada is just about how much money can be pulled out of the ground.

There would still be a Canada, just not one you can stomach surviving.

I've heard about Cascadia - even recently (so I guess the haven't heard much about this in the last few years is more a you thing) - though it doesn't usually include Alberta, Saskatchewan or Manitoba, just BC (though even that's questionable). There's enough right wing wackadoos in all three states (and the militia there) to prevent such a place. Unless they take over, of course, then it will just be Right Wing Lala Land.
Then you really haven't heard anything about Cascadia. Just showing the normal total lack of knowledge of, and care about the West that is so typical of almost everyone East of Manitoba. As long as your welfare cheque shows up every year, you are in ignorant bliss.
 
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Then you really haven't heard anything about Cascadia.

Sure, keep assuming that.

Just showing the normal total lack of knowledge of, and care about the West that is so typical of almost everyone East of Manitoba.

More assumptions.

As long as your welfare cheque shows up every year, you are in ignorant bliss.

What welfare check? I work for my money, Taxy.

The only one with ignorant bliss is you.
 

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Robbery Barons like Dunsmuir who built a castle.

49ers left when the gold ran out and moved on to Montana, Nevada, Arizona and South Dakota.
And up to BaRyker ville and eventually the Yukon . The Fraser gold rush lasted from 1858 until the 1920’s . In about 1870 there were over 50,000 people in the Yale region . It was the biggest city north of San Francisco .
 

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And up to BaRyker ville and eventually the Yukon . The Fraser gold rush lasted from 1858 until the 1920’s . In about 1870 there were over 50,000 people in the Yale region . It was the biggest city north of San Francisco .
In the west .
 

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And up to BaRyker ville and eventually the Yukon . The Fraser gold rush lasted from 1858 until the 1920’s . In about 1870 there were over 50,000 people in the Yale region . It was the biggest city north of San Francisco .
I've seen every episode of Ghost Towns and Gold Trails 10 times.
 

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I've seen every episode of Ghost Towns and Gold Trails 10 times.
So , I saw those also and been to many of those ghost towns the old MLA ( can’t remember his name out of the blue ) did shows on . Just last week I was doing some research on the Yale rush as my grandfather made his money there , prior to going to Barkerville . He then went to the Klondike via steamer out of Seattle , he did the golden staircase and eventually the long walk to Nome . He did well enough to own many properties in and around Vancouver .
I came across a publication from the province of B.C. That was in depth look at the gold rushes and methods of extraction . Will try and find a link to it . It is technical but that shouldn’t bother you .
 

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So , I saw those also and been to many of those ghost towns the old MLA ( can’t remember his name out of the blue ) did shows on . Just last week I was doing some research on the Yale rush as my grandfather made his money there , prior to going to Barkerville . He then went to the Klondike via steamer out of Seattle , he did the golden staircase and eventually the long walk to Nome . He did well enough to own many properties in and around Vancouver .
I came across a publication from the province of B.C. That was in depth look at the gold rushes and methods of extraction . Will try and find a link to it . It is technical but that shouldn’t bother you .
Bill Barlee is the historian/show host who became the MLA.
 

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But…here’s an obvious twist. Does our national neighbour to the south want Canada to build pipelines to anywhere but America? If we forge ahead with this, will the same paid protesters propaganda do everything they possibly can to shut it down? America gets a pretty sweet deal by Canada not having more pipelines to tidewater.
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Even if we tried to build more pipelines to the US (just further putting more of our eggs in the same basket, so that we can sell things for a substantial discount rate to that one customer), would the next Biden/whatever just shut it down on their first day in office?
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One of Trump's goals is for an oil bourse with Canada. Combining our oil, gas and hydrogen in a single market and export distribution will run OPEC out of town and back the new CANAM digital currency s that we'll know more about in a month when the feasibility report hits his desk. All tariffs, duties and exchange disparities will no longer exist.

Carney is onboard.
What was mentioned about this in the first & only budget so far by the Carney Liberal Government seven months after being elected? Crickets?
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For a country that doesn’t want or need Canadian oil, it’s interesting that this pipeline is at full capacity, isn’t it? And if that’s at a 10% tariff upon the American population, doesn’t that mean that this commodity was being undersold by at least 10% before the tariff was applied? Somebody’s been getting a sweet deal for a long time….
 
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What was mentioned about this in the first & only budget so far by the Carney Liberal Government seven months after being elected? Crickets?
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For a country that doesn’t want or need Canadian oil, it’s interesting that this pipeline is at full capacity, isn’t it? And if that’s at a 10% tariff upon the American population, doesn’t that mean that this commodity was being undersold by at least 10% before the tariff was applied? Somebody’s been getting a sweet deal for a long time….
Long before Trump .
 

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Elections Alberta approves proposed separation referendum question
The Alberta Prosperity Project is seeking to ask: "Do you agree that the province of Alberta should cease to be a part of Canada to become an independent state?"

Author of the article:Matthew Black
Published Dec 23, 2025 • Last updated 12 hours ago • 2 minute read

A proposed referendum question on Alberta leaving Canada moved a step closer to being put on a ballot after it was approved on Monday by the provincial election agency.


The question reads: “Do you agree that the province of Alberta should cease to be a part of Canada to become an independent state?”


The campaign to put that question to voters is being led by the Alberta Prosperity Project, which now has until early next month to appoint a chief financial officer, after which it can begin collecting supporting signatures.

The group must secure just under 178,000 signatures in support for the question to go to a referendum.

Chief executive officer Mitch Sylvestre told Postmedia in an interview earlier this month that the group has been in campaign mode for some time and claims to have 240,000 pledges for signatures.

“I really believe this is a non-partisan deal,” he said. “I think every Albertan is going to benefit tremendously from this. I think it’s very clear.”


The group’s question was redrafted to reflect language in the federal Clarity Act.

The group first pursued a referendum question on separation last July, but the group’s question was referred to the Court of King’s Bench by the chief electoral officer to gauge its constitutionality.

Justice Colin Feasby ruled the prior initiative laws did not allow for a citizen-led separation referendum.

But his decision was ultimately rendered moot by changes the province introduced a day earlier in Bill 14 that had the effect of giving the Alberta Prosperity Project’s referendum push new life.

The bill removed constitutionality requirements from proposed referendum questions the ability for the chief electoral officer or attorney general to refer initiative proposals to the court, though cabinet retains such power under other legislation.


A rival petition from the Alberta Forever Canada petition gathered 456,000 signatures in support of a question asking if one agrees that Alberta should remain within Canada.

mblack@postmedia.com