Airport security remains dismal, must be tighter

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By John Ward
OTTAWA (CP) - Security at Canadian airports remains dismal more than five years after 9-11 and responsibility for the protection of travellers should be taken away from the Transport Department, a Senate committee is recommending.
A report released by the Senate defence and security committee Wednesday says the government should put the Public Safety Department in charge of airport security.
The Transport Department is great at moving people and things around efficiently, it says, but security isn't its job.
"There are still way too many holes in security at Canada's airports for any Canadian's comfort," says the 144-page report by the all-party committee.
The senators didn't single out any particular facility, saying they're all in bad shape.
Transport Minister Lawrence Cannon said airports are much more vigilant these days.
"I'm quite comfortable with what we've done," he said.
He plans to examine the Senate recommendations.
The report calls for tighter security, including daily checks of workers.
Senator Colin Kenny, the Liberal chairman of the committee, said it makes no sense to search every air passenger while conducting only random searches among the 100,000 people who work at airports, including baggage handlers, maintenance workers, refuellers and plane cleaners.
"Search 'em all," he said.
The senators complained that most of the tough recommendations produced in a 2003 report on airport security were met with "weasel words" from both Liberal and Conservative governments.
The report summarized government reaction: "More talking. More consulting. More thinking. But, if anything, even less urgency about fixing serious problems."
What improvements that have been made are "few and far between."
Even the Conservative government, which talks a tough law-and-order policy, is "for the birds" when it comes to airport security, Kenny said.
Security concerns have waned as memories of 9-11 fade, he said.
"As time goes by, people forget."
That's a bad attitude, he said, because terrorism remains a threat.
"Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't happen."
The report said the Canadian Air Transport Security Authority should take charge of security operations and the RCMP should handle security strategy.
"Then, perhaps, it wouldn't be taking years of consultation with stakeholders before half-measures get taken. Then, perhaps, full and responsible security measures would be put in place within a reasonable time frame."
The senators urged the government to bolster the RCMP by between 600 and 800 full-time equivalents so the national police force can expand its "security, investigative and analytical capabilities at airports."
Kenny said departmental responses to the committee's three-year-old recommendations were typified by "vagueness, obfuscation, non-response and seemingly endless procrastination."
The senators said they found little urgency about fixing problems they identified in 2003, including organized crime at airports, inadequate background checks and access control to aircraft and a lack of screening of mail and other cargo aboard passenger planes.
Baggage screening would have prevented the 1985 Air India bombing, which killed 329 people, Kenny said.
"Canadian airports and seaports are riddled with organized crime," says the report. "There have been some well-publicized arrests in recent years, but the police know that those caught only represent the tip of the iceberg."
The report said private aircraft terminals that operate on the periphery of airports should be subject to the same security regulations that govern regular terminals.
It also pointed out that on the West Coast, the scheduled floatplane service between Vancouver and Victoria harbours operates with no security checks of either passengers or baggage.
The senators say they cannot assure the public that the numerous gaps that remain in airport security are being treated with some degree of urgency by government and the relevant departments.
They acknowledged their last report is "gathering dust" but they said the public should at least know it is gathering dust and they asserted that "without public pressure, nothing gets done."
The Senate document was released as CBC reported chaos during a labour dispute at Calgary airport caused a serious breach in security last December when a rushed airline manager let 30 pieces of luggage fly to Houston without the owners on board.
Internal documents which CBC obtained under the Access to Information Act show that Transport Canada is investigating the incident, a direct violation of major international security rules Canada adopted after Air India
Continental Airlines has since issued an apology for its mistake last December, but in a scathing letter to the government agency in charge of security, Garth Atkinson, president of Calgary's airport authority, called pre-flight screening out of Calgary "the absolute worst in Canada."


Copyright © 2007 Canadian Press
 

petros

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As I worked inside the medium security in grande cache last year,I can verify that.
And with a brown bill and the right person on that day you can get pretty much anything into a prison.



But who is checking the guy driving fuel truck for Shell or the de-icing guy from the tiny regional airline?






NOBODY!
 

YukonJack

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"There is more security checking into a flight than visiting someone at a prison."

Every visitor to an inmate in even a minimum security prison is ionoscope checked, patted down, sniffed by a dog, x-rayed and yet drugs get to the inmates.

Must keep in mind that the only ones to enter prison with huge duffel bags that are not checked in any way shape or form are the guards.

Makes you wondrer how the drugs get to the inmates.
 

darkbeaver

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"There is more security checking into a flight than visiting someone at a prison."

Every visitor to an inmate in even a minimum security prison is ionoscope checked, patted down, sniffed by a dog, x-rayed and yet drugs get to the inmates.

Must keep in mind that the only ones to enter prison with huge duffel bags that are not checked in any way shape or form are the guards.

Makes you wondrer how the drugs get to the inmates.

We should have some security people checking the guards before they go in and some more checking the security people checking the security and an over all seeing impartial body governing the whole process efficiently, if we throw the prisoners out there may possibly be room for the offices and parking. We will need IT people and PR people and Media liason people and more security to secure them. We have the problem virtually solved. Now we just have to sell it. Oops I forgot the lawyers and their security team. Don't you worry about it when we get no flight weekends we'll be secure. Soon you'll be oblidged to go through a meat grinder before boarding.
 

Kakato

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"There is more security checking into a flight than visiting someone at a prison."

Every visitor to an inmate in even a minimum security prison is ionoscope checked, patted down, sniffed by a dog, x-rayed and yet drugs get to the inmates.

Must keep in mind that the only ones to enter prison with huge duffel bags that are not checked in any way shape or form are the guards.

Makes you wondrer how the drugs get to the inmates.

We got the ionizor swab but never got patted down,the warden told me they shoot the stuff over the fence at night with bow and arrows,this prison is in the bush though,he said xmas was the worst.
 

petros

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"There is more security checking into a flight than visiting someone at a prison."

Every visitor to an inmate in even a minimum security prison is ionoscope checked, patted down, sniffed by a dog, x-rayed and yet drugs get to the inmates.

Must keep in mind that the only ones to enter prison with huge duffel bags that are not checked in any way shape or form are the guards.

Makes you wondrer how the drugs get to the inmates.
Heck no. You must be watching too much TV. As mentioned earlier in the thread a brown bill and the right person at work and you can get ANYTHING into a prison.
 

YukonJack

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"Heck no. You must be watching too much TV. As mentioned earlier in the thread a brown bill and the right person at work and you can get ANYTHING into a prison."

Exactly! A brown bill to a corrupt guard.
 

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When you have a group of people stuck in a cage it is advantageous to have them well sedated. Drugs are a requirement of incarceration. Otherwise they would be rioting all the time. I'm sure that is why the police confiscate drugs from dealers, so they can pass them on to prisoners. How many prisoners are incarcerated at any given time? That probably requires a lot of drugs in the system. Hell, who supplies the lawyers and judges with their cocaine? Who supplies the guards?
 

darkbeaver

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You got something against girls? (queued up for your punchline).

I can't think of a line that allows me to avoid your question and the eventual charges of sexism to follow if I proceed further or at all. So in the interest of my self preservation I have no comment at this time, please pick up an information brochure on the way out. Oh my goodness I'm going to be late picking up my three nieces and my grandmother for our bi-weekly dinner engagement.
 

Kakato

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When you have a group of people stuck in a cage it is advantageous to have them well sedated. Drugs are a requirement of incarceration. Otherwise they would be rioting all the time. I'm sure that is why the police confiscate drugs from dealers, so they can pass them on to prisoners. How many prisoners are incarcerated at any given time? That probably requires a lot of drugs in the system. Hell, who supplies the lawyers and judges with their cocaine? Who supplies the guards?

The grande Cache medium security has hundreds and hundreds of CC cams and microphones all over the place,if someone did get something in via the guards it would be very difficult and I dont think the inmates have the bucks to pay off a guard as they are all very well paid.
They also put an end to conjugal visits so your allways under surviellance no matter where you are in the prison.
When the other contractor there ripped up the yard to install new water and sewer they did find some contraband and it was allways tobacco,The warden said when they banned smoking the inmates were crawling the walls and lost many weeks of yard time because of the mini riots you didnt read about in the papers.:lol:

I cant see someone sacrificing a $28.00/hr job with full benefits for a brown one.