Air Milers Say They Are Getting Hosed

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In the race to redeem their Air Miles before they expire, many collectors are expressing frustrations about limited rewards options.

"You're pretty much hosed," claims Toronto collector John MacKenzie.

At the close of 2011, Air Miles introduced a five-year expiry date on rewards miles. That means on Jan.1, 2017, any unused miles collected before 2012 will disappear and become worthless. The rewards program launched in Canada in 1992.

For 95 miles, customers can get a $10 gift card in the cash category. Many offerings in the dream section such as household products, leisure activities and vacation deals require thousands of miles.

The dream section does offer a $100 gift card for select grocers, but it requires 50 miles plus a cash payment of $95 — almost the value of the card.

Engen, who lives in Lethbridge, Alta., has 400 dream miles he must use by January. He says he hasn't found a way to redeem them.

"I'm having a hard time finding something worthwhile."

MacKenzie has 1,400 dream miles and says there's not much he can do with them. Because he can't access cash rewards, he tried to donate his points to charity. But he soon discovered that the option is only available in the cash category.

So MacKenzie has concluded his miles are worthless. "I'm just going to throw the card away. It's pointless."

Air Miles points to sweepstakes people can enter to win a vacation or a meet-and-greet with a celebrity for as little as 50 miles. The company also noted that collectors can get a dining discount book for 500 miles.

Engen and MacKenzie say those options don't interest them. "Absolutely would not consider entering a sweepstakes," says Engen.

"Might as well just flush them down the toilet."

After hearing complaints from other collectors about limited options, Engen posted online an open letter to Air Miles.

He calls on the company to allow collectors to make a one-time transfer of their dream miles to the cash category before the end of the year.

"That would be a show of good faith for the company and their members," says Engen. "Because they're going to lose a lot of [members]."

Collector MacKenzie suggests another option would be for Air Miles to cancel its five-year expiry rule.

"Just change the policy like Aeroplan did," he suggests.

Aeroplan introduced a seven-year expiry rule in 2007. But after public outcry, the rewards program axed the plan before miles started to expire in 2014.

Air Miles customers have also been complaining about long wait times to reach customers service by phone and technical difficulties with the company website.

'You're pretty much hosed': Air Miles rewards lacking for expiring points, customers complain - Business - CBC News
 

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Customer outcry continues after a CBC News story revealed that Air Miles blocks members from accessing certain rewards.

The story included disgruntled collectors who said that when they logged into the Air Miles website using an account with few miles, they saw premium merchandise they didn't have enough miles to get. ​But when using a different account with many miles — enough to acquire those premium products — the same items vanished.

Air Miles explains it tailors the loyalty program so that more active collectors get access to more rewards such as merchandise and travel.

But that explanation has only further angered some collectors who claim it just doesn't add up.

Katherine McLaughlin recently contacted CBC News in a fury because she couldn't redeem her miles for a Bose Wave music system.

When she logged in on the Air Miles website using her account, she saw the item advertised for 6,900 miles. McLaughlin was thrilled she had finally found something she wanted, considering that some of her miles would expire in the new year.

The Oakville, Ont., resident had the required points, so she clicked on the ad. That's when she discovered she was blocked from getting the product

McLaughlin complained to an Air Miles online customer service rep who — according to a transcript of the conversation — told her that collectors get a "tailored experience," which, for her, didn't include the music system

CBC News asked Air Miles, which is owned by global company LoyaltyOne, for more details about the tailored experience.

CBC News also spoke with Air Miles collector Nicole Heisler in Calgary. She says her husband, Derek, redeemed a chunk of his close to 10,000 miles in July for a rowing machine and a camera.

The couple was hoping for a Dyson fan and two gaming devices that Heisler had seen previously when she logged in using her account. But those items didn't appear when Derek was looking to redeem his miles.

The next day, Heisler says she logged in using her membership which had a meagre 168 miles. She says she found the products they had wanted but that her husband — who could afford them — didn't have access to.

Heisler says Derek then called Air Miles and threatened to tell his story to the media unless he could exchange the rowing machine for a couple of the products he wanted. She says he got his way and the rewards he was looking for suddenly were available for him to claim.

Heisler says she's not an active Air Miles user but her husband is. So she doesn't buy the company's explanation that more active members get more rewards.

"It just sounds like B.S. to me," she says. "Their explanation doesn't add up at all.

Air Miles also told CBC News that tailoring rewards is typical industry practice.

Loyalty program expert Sojka disagrees. He says, typically, while rewards programs may offer extra perks to more active collectors, "this is the first time I'm aware of awards being blocked to members."

CBC News checked with other popular rewards programs. The ones run by Shoppers Drug Mart, Loblaws, Canadian Tire and Scene, the movie loyalty program, all said that all of their members have access to every reward

Aeroplan said that its top earners get exclusive offers but that all members have access to the loyalty program's main catalogue which includes merchandise and travel rewards.

Sojka says he's stumped why Air Miles would prevent customers from accessing all items in its catalogue.

He wonders if it has anything to do with the fact that people are clamouring to redeem miles before they disappear on Jan. 1. That's when miles older than five years start expiring.

"Are they trying to keep people from redeeming their miles so that they do actually expire at the end of this year? You never know."

Customers say Air Miles explanation for hiding rewards 'doesn't add up' - Business - CBC News
 

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Glad I redeemed mine last fall, got a 60" smart TV within a week


It's the small user that's getting screwed.
This year I have got two Fitbits, a Sthil power washer and Sthil combination weedy hedge trimmer which has a few other potential attachments and I'm getting some nice headphones this week too. Then I'll have only about 2000 dream miles to use up. I had 24,000 at one point.
 

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It's the small user that's getting screwed.
This year I have got two Fitbits, a Sthil power washer and Sthil combination weedy hedge trimmer which has a few other potential attachments and I'm getting some nice headphones this week too. Then I'll have only about 2000 dream miles to use up. I had 24,000 at one point.


I collected for 10 years and couldn't find anything to redeem them on that I wanted, and forget about using them for flights, they're never available when you want them. My oldest uses Areoplan for that and it has served her well. Airmiles are not offered at as many places in AB as they were in NS. I did all my shopping at Sobeys and racked up quite a balance too, and once NSLC started offering them, (like the LCBO has for like ever) that only helped. But we were told a good five or more years ago that the points would begin to expire. I waited until I was moved in in AB before I redeemed them because I didn't want to haul the thing across the country. I am kicking myself though since I could have instead got a 55" TV and had enough left over for a nice DSLR camera. Like you, I only have about 2000 miles left and that won't get me much.
 

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I got a 42 in LG flatscreen out of the bin, and just bent the power supply section circuit board till the cold solder joints got proper contact...
Solder melts well below the flash point of paper towel, of which I used two under the board to bend it against its mounting screws.
There was also a universal remote in there too.

Good buy dead 19" computer monitor
hello 42" HD 1080P

There really isn't anywhere I wanted to fly to anyhow...
 

Machjo

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I've got a friggin deck of points rewards cards. Every friggin shop in Canada has its own rewards programme now.

We should just outlaw points programmes and force shops to compete on cost, no more friggin gimmicks.

Banks should not be allowed to charge shops to allow us to use our credit cards either. That just imposes extra costs on companies which they pass on to us. Why do you think banks giveus points. 'cause they want us to use the cards and pay more for food thinking we're getting a good deal.

I like some shops in China town. No points programme gimmicks, don't accept credit cards, and dirt cheap food.

Just a shame I live far from China town though.
 

Danbones

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Don't fret Mac
they will have drone delivery soon
say, about those drone delivery air miles....

I have to say though
It's a good thing they don't do this for sporting events:
Something about getting them to cough up 'air balls...
 

Machjo

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Don't fret Mac
they will have drone delivery soon
say, about those drone delivery air miles....

good thing they don't do this for sporting events:
Something about getting them to cough up 'air balls...

Oh please, not another points programme. I could draw kings and queens and hearts and spades and make a deck of playing cards out of all of my points cards!

They won't even fit my friggin wallet anymore.
 

Danbones

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LOL, air balls could be kept in another compartment of your pants...
help balance the load...
 

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We have the RBC Avion. Do a lot of online shopping through their site which gives 2x-10x the points We pay almost all our bills on it. Usually have enough to get an all-inclusive, 5-star week in Mexico for 1 of us every year.
 

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