Afghan Christian may get death

[nelk]

RE: Afghan Christian may

Nelk asks:
Is this the Afghanistan where Canadian Soldiers(most still are christians, at least by heritage) are putting their own life on the line to help Stoneage societies to advance to a level closer to what we call dark ages?

Politically correctness causes the western powers to overlook the ongoing growing of poppies(heroin source),
while this "sharia" law is applied in the most grotesk way.

Is this how the friendship of these kind of countries is won?
Stop kidding yourself; this is the barbarismus coming to the fore. Plain and simple

 

[mabudon]

RE: Afghan Christian may

Hey Orpheus- I am of the same opinion, I was just pointing out how THAT aspect of the culture has been used as some kind of "reason" for invading Afghanistan in the first place, whereas this execution over religious conversion is one of them "just a cultural thing" and we must "respect" it... why couldn't we just respect the Burkah thing as well, and not run roughshod over the whole country for the ambiguous reasons we've been given???

(and if I'm not clear enough, I'm trying to debunk a common "talking point" , the one where when asked "what are we doing in Anghanistan" the pavlovian response usually begins with "did you see the video of that woman being executed" or "did you know that Afghani women no longer have to wear the Burkah??" when everyone with a brain knows that those "responses" are just meaningless crap, hard-wired talking points, like them inspirational phrases on the popular successories line of decor)

 

[Machjo]

Re: RE: Afghan Christian may

"Nelk asks:
Is this the Afghanistan where Canadian Soldiers(most still are christians, at least by heritage) are putting their own life on the line to help Stoneage societies to advance to a level closer to what we call dark ages?"

First off, Christianity is not a heritage; it's areligion. to lower to nothing more than a heritage is offensive to the greatness of the founder of that faith. And no, I'm not a Christian myself, but I do believe in showing some respect for it as for any religion. As for stone age to dark age, it's a start.

Politically correctness causes the western powers to overlook the ongoing growing of poppies(heroin source),
while this "sharia" law is applied in the most grotesk way.

So what do you suggest we do about it?

"Is this how the friendship of these kind of countries is won?
Stop kidding yourself; this is the barbarismus coming to the fore. Plain and simple."

I agree; so what's the solution?

 

[Jersay]

If women wear Burkas, if they want to wear them why should we enforce our culture which is totally different and impose it on theirs.

Most Women like wearing the burka because it can sexualize the person 'you don't know who is behind the veil'.

 

[Jersay]

Re: RE: Afghan Christian may

Nelk asks:
Is this the Afghanistan where Canadian Soldiers(most still are christians, at least by heritage) are putting their own life on the line to help Stoneage societies to advance to a level closer to what we call dark ages?

Politically correctness causes the western powers to overlook the ongoing growing of poppies(heroin source),
while this "sharia" law is applied in the most grotesk way.

Is this how the friendship of these kind of countries is won?
Stop kidding yourself; this is the barbarismus coming to the fore. Plain and simple

What kind of Christian BS are you talking about. It is religion it is not a heritage and you are sorely mistaken if you think Canadian soliders are Christian they are mostly Aethiest.

This is their religion and it is not barbaric you racist intolerent piece of dung.

People have done worst, killed millions if not hundreds of millions of people under Christianity.

We didn't allow women to vote or get a job until the 1930s. So Christianity isn't all its about it discriminates against people. So don't tell me Islam is barbaric.

 

[nelk]

Fine comment Jersay;
you got all the ingredients of open and free discussions???!!!!

It speak volumes in what direction verbal attacks are vomitted.

I thought that the life of this person facing "sharia" lawcourt
matters and not my personal point of view.

If you can only tolerate your own opinion, go find a room with an echo and speak to yourself.
May be you dont understand the function of a FORUM; free speech and the rest of it...

 

[Jersay]

Not if it is racist. You can say what you want, I think it is disqusting.

List what you think is so barbaric and savage of the Islamic religion.

 

[Jay]

Here's an interesting link.

http://www.israelnetdaily.com/redir.php?headline=3527

 

[Doryman]

Not if it is racist. You can say what you want, I think it is disqusting.

List what you think is so barbaric and savage of the Islamic religion.

Three quick glimpses into the minds of moderate muslims...


http://www.gawaher.com/index.php?showtopic=27533

http://www.gawaher.com/index.php?showtopic=27285

http://www.gawaher.com/index.php?showtopic=26758

Browse the site and see how the average muslim feels about things.

The arrogance, misogyny, fanaticsm and tendency towards the conquest, murder or subjugation of those who disagree with them is a start to waht I dislike about Islam.

And yes, jersay, killing a man for changing his mind about his personal beliefs is barbaric. And if that is an integral part of their religion and culture, then they have a barbaric religion/culture.

 

[darkbeaver]

Re: RE: Afghan Christian may

"Nelk asks:
Is this the Afghanistan where Canadian Soldiers(most still are christians, at least by heritage) are putting their own life on the line to help Stoneage societies to advance to a level closer to what we call dark ages?"

First off, Christianity is not a heritage; it's areligion. to lower to nothing more than a heritage is offensive to the greatness of the founder of that faith. And no, I'm not a Christian myself, but I do believe in showing some respect for it as for any religion. As for stone age to dark age, it's a start.

Politically correctness causes the western powers to overlook the ongoing growing of poppies(heroin source),
while this "sharia" law is applied in the most grotesk way.

So what do you suggest we do about it?

"Is this how the friendship of these kind of countries is won?
Stop kidding yourself; this is the barbarismus coming to the fore. Plain and simple."

I agree; so what's the solution?

Why do I have to show respect to Paul/Saul the founder of christianity, I believe you were alluding to Jesus, who of course was dead long before anything christian was thought of, and would probubly be horrified at the bag of mumbo jumbo that bears his name.

 

[Finder]

So this is the type of government our troops in afcanistan are defeanding... interesting..

 

[Colpy]

Yeah.

It is hard to defend this.

I heartily appove of our mission in Afghanistan, the current government is so very much better than the Taliban.

I do believe that the attempt to establish a stable government keeps Canada and Canadians safer.

But this is simply unacceptable.

What is one to do?

Perhaps appeal to the President to commute any sentence, and offer the individual a chance to emigrate to Canada.

 

[Finder]

Colpy, as you may know I support our mission as well, though I'd like to see some changes to it, as in being a real peace keeping mission with more envolvment from other nations in the UN.

But this is something I think we shouldn't allow to happen! This is Taliban like justice, I mean why did we even bother bringing in this government when they are just going to turn around and be "F"ing backwards just like the Taliban. It's like your switching one group of fanatics for another!

 

[FiveParadox]

I received a response from the message I sent (in relation to my concerns regarding this situation) to the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and Prime Minister of Canada — which indicated that my message would be redirected to the Honourable Peter Mackay, P.C., M.P., the Member for Central Nova and Minister of Foreign Affairs.

 

[Finder]

Re: RE: Afghan Christian may get death

I received a response from the message I sent (in relation to my concerns regarding this situation) to the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and Prime Minister of Canada — which indicated that my message would be redirected to the Honourable Peter Mackay, P.C., M.P., the Member for Central Nova and Minister of Foreign Affairs.

what a responce. =-(

 

[FiveParadox]

No kidding, eh?

At least I know that somebody read it — even though it was a receptionist.

 

[Finder]

Re: RE: Afghan Christian may get death

No kidding, eh?

At least I know that somebody read it — even though it was a receptionist.

Let me know if you get a responce. That article is troubling.

 

[FiveParadox]

The case has been dismissed by the Supreme Court of Afghanistan.

Click here for details, courtesy of the CBC.

 

[darkbeaver]

RE: Afghan Christian may

Lucky break for the man, quick phone call from Karsai, local sharia law folds but not before we in Canada see that we support the law of that land on one hand and hunt and destroy it on the other.

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: Afghan Christian may

Lucky break for the man, quick phone call from Karsai, local sharia law folds but not before we in Canada see that we support the law of that land on one hand and hunt and destroy it on the other.

Gawd, I actually agree with you on this. On the one hand we want them to govern themselves and on the other we dictate what they shoud be doing. When a Prime Minister can intervene with a Court Decision, that country has a long way to go yet.