Do Muslims believe in Joseph Smith or Bahá'u'lláh? Perhaps you are the one who is destined to be chastised.
Add an additional faith to your faith
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Good question, Cliffy. Muslims insist that their religion is the correct one, because it was revealed last and thus all the imperfections of any of the previous ones have been corrected.
Would they give the same credit and the same recognition to Joseph Smith as they give to Mohammed, for being even more Johnny-come-lately than Mohammed?
eanassir, what do you say?
Å , are you kidding (Or I say lying)?
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true or false? Do either of you believe in either of them? :lol:
Å , I don't believe in fairy tales.
It is you who live with the mind of the 1800 or older: because you don't believe the Quran says there is intelligent life on the planets; just like the people of the 1800 or older thought no people in the American conitnent.
The planets are inhabited
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Yeah, I got the same message from God, we must be on his Mass mailing list!!
He also told me this Muslim dude is a nut bar !!
Let's see, according to the Jewish tradition, Moses freed his people from slavery and led them through the desert to the Promised Land, where they could live free.
According to Christian tradition, Jesus Christ preached peace and forgiveness, and was crucified for his beliefs, taking iupon himself the punishment for the sins of the faithful.
According to Islamic tradition, Mohammed engaged in a theology of slavery to a ideology, spreading the word through the sword, murdering pagans, raping and pilllaging, engaged in marriage and intercourse with a little girl, and left us with a theology of genocide, murder and hatred.
I think number three is a giant step too far.
According to Christian tradition, Jesus Christ preached peace and forgiveness, and was crucified for his beliefs, taking iupon himself the punishment for the sins of the faithful.
According to Islamic tradition, Mohammed engaged in a theology of slavery to a ideology, spreading the word through the sword, murdering pagans, raping and pilllaging, engaged in marriage and intercourse with a little girl, and left us with a theology of genocide, murder and hatred.
I think number three is a giant step too far.
But only a slave to the cigarette
Cigarettes are the opposite of God. The consequences of apostasy is a life.
Numbers 15:32-36King James Version (KJV)
32And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
33And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
34And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
35And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
36And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.
Numbers 15:32-36 - Passage Lookup - King James Version - BibleGateway.com
Don't sound like freedom to me. I bet if that guy was given the choice he'd probably have chosen to go back to Egypt.
I believe that of all the religious leaders who started religions, Bahá'u'lláh is by far the most god like in his acceptance of all people and their religious books, knowing that they were all inspired from the same source. The Baha'i religion in the only truly loving and caring world religion out there and if I were inclined to join a religion, I would become a Baha'i. Baha'is practice brotherly love more consistently than the rest and are more Christ like than any Christian I ever met.
Two folds of reward from God according to your additional faith
If you add the faith in Jesus to your faith in Moses, you will have two folds of rewarding: one for your faith in Moses, and the other for your faith in Jesus;
And if you add your belief in Mohammed, to your belief in Jesus, you will have double folds of God's reward according to your original belief in Jesus the apostle of God and your new belief in Prophet Mohammed.
As in the Quran 56: 28 about the Jews who believed in Mohammed and refused at the start to believe in Jesus:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَآمِنُوا بِرَسُولِهِ يُؤْتِكُمْ كِفْلَيْنِ مِن رَّحْمَتِهِ وَيَجْعَل لَّكُمْ نُورًا تَمْشُونَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرْ لَكُمْ وَاللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ
The explanation:
(O believers [in Mohammed], ward off God['s punishment, concerning your claim that Jesus was a sorcerer],
and believe in His messenger [Jesus, the son of Mary]
and then [if you believe in Jesus] -->
>> [God] will give you two portions of His mercy [: in the world of souls, and on the Doomsday; that is your belief in both Jesus and Mohammed],
>> and appoint for you a light wherewith you walk among souls]
>> and forgive you [your past sins];
for God is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.)
quran-ayat.co
If you add the faith in Jesus to your faith in Moses, you will have two folds of rewarding: one for your faith in Moses, and the other for your faith in Jesus;
And if you add your belief in Mohammed, to your belief in Jesus, you will have double folds of God's reward according to your original belief in Jesus the apostle of God and your new belief in Prophet Mohammed.
As in the Quran 56: 28 about the Jews who believed in Mohammed and refused at the start to believe in Jesus:
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَآمِنُوا بِرَسُولِهِ يُؤْتِكُمْ كِفْلَيْنِ مِن رَّحْمَتِهِ وَيَجْعَل لَّكُمْ نُورًا تَمْشُونَ بِهِ وَيَغْفِرْ لَكُمْ وَاللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ
The explanation:
(O believers [in Mohammed], ward off God['s punishment, concerning your claim that Jesus was a sorcerer],
and believe in His messenger [Jesus, the son of Mary]
and then [if you believe in Jesus] -->
>> [God] will give you two portions of His mercy [: in the world of souls, and on the Doomsday; that is your belief in both Jesus and Mohammed],
>> and appoint for you a light wherewith you walk among souls]
>> and forgive you [your past sins];
for God is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.)
quran-ayat.co
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Now, you add Bahá'u'lláh to your faith and your rewards will be doubled too. If you are not able to take your own advice and add to your own faith, then I would have to conclude that you have no faith at all. So, until you are willing to walk your talk, you are only blowing hot air.
If you want to follow the totally made up sayings of the Quran, fine, that's your right to do so.
BUT, keep in mind that not one word of it was written until AFTER Mohhammed died. There is absolutely NO proof of any type that any of it was either said by him, or by God.
It has more contradictions than the Bible does, by far. Either that, or virtually every Iman in the world is wrong, when they preach Jihad against the Jews and Christians. I say that, because the Quran REQUIRES that all people of the BOOK must be treated with respect.
You do NOT treat people with respect by murdering them. You do not treat such people with respect by forcing them to convert to your religion or die (as all of your religion was spread "by the sword", your own religion violated its own holy book).
And you can NOT keep your belief in Jesus if you join Islam. Because, to Christians, Jesus is the Son of God, one of the Trinity. And I hate to tell you, but you can not possibly get any "Prophet" on the same level, much less a higher level, than God himself. Jesus IS God, just as is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
BUT, keep in mind that not one word of it was written until AFTER Mohhammed died. There is absolutely NO proof of any type that any of it was either said by him, or by God.
It has more contradictions than the Bible does, by far. Either that, or virtually every Iman in the world is wrong, when they preach Jihad against the Jews and Christians. I say that, because the Quran REQUIRES that all people of the BOOK must be treated with respect.
You do NOT treat people with respect by murdering them. You do not treat such people with respect by forcing them to convert to your religion or die (as all of your religion was spread "by the sword", your own religion violated its own holy book).
And you can NOT keep your belief in Jesus if you join Islam. Because, to Christians, Jesus is the Son of God, one of the Trinity. And I hate to tell you, but you can not possibly get any "Prophet" on the same level, much less a higher level, than God himself. Jesus IS God, just as is the Father and the Holy Spirit.
You are absolutely correct, Old Medic. I have been trying to tell him not to drag the Son Of God to the level of a murderous pedophile, forever, but he won't listen and keeps on repeating his crap.
What do you know about the truth. You cannot or will not answer what I said. If Christians and Jews should ad to their faith by accepting Mohammed and the Quran why will you not add Bahá'u'lláh to yours? He was after all a latter day prophet of Islam who tried to bring Islam into the modern era.