ADD & ADHD: Epidemic of a Phantom Disease

Stretch

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Evolution or Devolution........ remember learning in school how an amphibian that left the sea to live on land had its fins evolve into legs, feet etc.....they evolved because they were needed......well, thats what "they" told us happened anyway.
I've often wondered why our brain is the size it is if we never used it before....I believe we all have had the ability to do wonderous things, ie: communicate via telepathy, psychokinesis, healing ourselves and others etc etc....but due to religion, the churches, education etc we have been knowingly steered away from those abilities, devolved....afterall...
it's not that long ago we used to burn people at the stake for having these abilities......
anyway, just my thoughts on the matter once again.
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: ADD & ADHD: Epidemic

There really is no solid evidence that we were ever telepathic or psychic though, Stretch. There is a fair bit of science showing that the brain grew as it was needed for things like tool use.
 

Stretch

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was it not scientists, that told us Tholidamide was safe...and DDT or a myriad of other crap?


I have a problem with things like that...

I am currently taking a psychic developement class here in Southern Ontario....tis very interesting....I have learned a lot about the power of the mind......
 

Reverend Blair

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Thalidomide wasn't properly tested though. Same with DDT. Don't confuse science with the technology that grows from that science ot the people that us it to make money. When I was a teenager, for instance, Ritalin only had one purpose...to keep you awake and give you a buzz. Nobody was giving it to children to make them behave. Now the doctors and the pharmaceutical companies can make money off of it.

It would be a situation exactly like that that would cause us to try to stop an evolutionary step too. I don't immediately write off such a thing, Stretch. I doubt that we were psychic in the past, but that is no reason why becoming psychic couldn't be the next step.
 

Stretch

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scientists will be the death of us.........I read somewhere recently that scientists in the us defence force had reinvented bubonic plague.......incase terrorists have it of course.....bunch of lunatic wankers
 

Stretch

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science.....the ability to produce solutions in some problem domain

and vica-versa.......

scientist.....a person with said ability.

yep, there are good ones, but there is also a significant amount of others who work toward the "common cause"....afterall, they're human and human nature being what it is....we all have our price.
scientist are forcing upon us GM food....and god knows what we are wearing, chemical wise ie clothes(what's REALLY in them), cosmetics, toiletries....VACCINES! there's another one....want to know just what these "scientists" are telling us is safe, as they inject us with....mercury
 

Stretch

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Four Of 7 Flu UK Shots
Have Mercury -
Linked To Autism
Autism Fears Over Flu Shots
By Fraser Nelson
The Scotsman
12-8-4

Four of the seven flu jabs being issued by the government this winter contain a mercury-based preservative which is being withdrawn in the US amid fears of its links to autism.

The Department of Health has confirmed that most of the flu vaccines being issued through the National Health Service contain thimerosal, a preservative which is 50 per cent composed of ethyl mercury.

Thimerosal is already being withdrawn in the US, where a government health authority has warned that it has a "biologically plausible" link to autism and should not be given to pregnant women.

The UK government has this year chosen seven vaccines to combat three expected strains of the flu virus, and is aiming to vaccinate 70 per cent of people aged over 65 in a UK-wide programme.

The Scotsman can today name the four which, according to the Department of Health, contain thimerosal - and, therefore, mercury. They are Fluvirin, Fluarix, Influvac and Agrippal. The mercury-free vaccines are Inflexal V, Begrivac and this year,s flu vaccine from Aventis Pasteur.

Officials have said they do not recognise any health risk posed by the mercury in thimerosal. As a result, patients - whether pregnant or not - are not being advised which vaccines contain mercury.

"There is no evidence of long-term adverse effects due to the exposure levels of thimerosal in vaccines," a Department of Health spokeswoman said.

"The risk-benefit balance of thimerosal-containing vaccines remains overwhelmingly positive."

She added that the Institute of Medicine in the US had looked at the issue and had "concluded that evidence does not support a causal association between thimerosal contained in vaccines and neuro-developmental disorders".

The IoM,s exact conclusion, however, argued that such a link was "biologically plausible" - and said there is not enough evidence to accept or reject a link between thimerosal and neurological disorders.

In a statement which fuelled fears about thimerosal safety, it urged that "full consideration should be given to removing thimerosal from any biological product to which infants, children and pregnant women are exposed".

Pregnant women are advised to avoid thimerosal because the mercury affects the foetus to a greater extent than the mother. For the same reason, pregnant women are advised against having silver dental fillings fitted as the amalgam is 50 per cent composed of mercury.

However, the Department of Health does not include pregnant women among the categories of people at risk from the flu vaccine.

It instead lists those with heart problems and people allergic to hen,s eggs, because the vaccines are incubated in a similar substance.

The Department of Health said its decision to buy mercury-free vaccines is "a purely precautionary measure", which is part of "a move in both the US and Europe to minimise the exposure of infants to mercury".

Robert McKay, a Scottish co-ordinator of the National Autistic Society, said he was astonished that dangers about mercury in vaccines have not been spelled out by the government. "We need access to the same information given to parents in other countries."

"If we have a choice in vaccine, we would like to know about it. This information should be given to families in this country so they can make decisions for themselves."

Mercury,s links to autism and neuro-developmental disorders have been well documented.

Children born in the Faroe Islands in 1987 were found to have developmental disorders after their mothers ate mercury-contaminated whale meat.

Two years ago, the Journal of Neurochemistry ran a study showing brain cells exposed to even minute levels of mercury developed the exact set of neuro-deformations associated with Alzheimer's disease.

Last year, Canadian research reinforced the suggested link between exposure to mercury and Alzheimer's.


http://www.ncirs.usyd.edu.au/facts/f-thiomersal.html


Table 2: Vaccines available in Australia that contain thiomersal

Vaccine
Trade Name
Manufacturer
Dose of thiomersal

Combined diphtheria and tetanus vaccine
CDT
CSL
50 micrograms

Adult diphtheria and tetanus vaccine
ADT
CSL
50 micrograms

Diphtheria vaccine

CSL
50 micrograms

Hepatitis B
Engerix B Adult
GlaxoSmithKline
<2 micrograms

*Influenza vaccines
Fluarix, Influvac, Fluvax
GlaxoSmithKline, Solvay, CSL
50 micrograms

Japanese encephalitis vaccine
JE Vax
CSL
35 micrograms

Q fever vaccine
Q vax
CSL
50 micrograms

http://www.thescotsman.co.uk
/index.cfm?id=1912003
 

Stretch

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we're getting a bit off topic here but..wot the hell, its all about our health and that of future generations.


It seems to all involve scientists.....

Shaken Baby Syndrome
- the vaccination link -
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/shakenbaby1.html


Shaken Baby Syndrome
or
Adverse Vaccine Reaction?
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/shakenbaby2.html


The Hidden Hazards of Microwave Cooking
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/microwave.html

THE BITTER TRUTH ABOUT
ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/aspartame.html

TOXIC SECRETS
Fluoride & the A-Bomb Program
During the ultra-secret Manhattan Project, a report was commissioned to assess the effect of fluoride on humans.
That report was classified "secret" for reasons of "national security".
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/fluoridebomb.html

REFINED SUGAR
The Sweetest Poison of All
A multitude of common physical and mental ailments are strongly linked to the consuming of 'pure', refined sugar.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/sugarblues.html

The Pet Food Industry and
its Questionable Practices
The pet food industry must be regulated to ensure that foods destined for our pets are safe, contain only ingredients fit for human consumption, and involve no animal experimentation.
http://www.nexusmagazine.com/articles/petfood2.html

and these scientists seek to ban our access to natural remendies etc...stuff that does work in most cases...
 

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For those of you with children with ADD or a relationship with somebody, keep in mind that ADD is a DISORDER, not a disease. You can't compare it to cancers or any of those things. No matter what, there is currently no physiological malfeasance that can be isolated to causally determine whether it is present. You should definitely do research on it's prognosis, the AMA has a 'relatively' good idea in that the actual prognosis CANNOT be done in less than six months. This is because the child must be tested in various environments to determine whether the behaviour is constant and not a result of what could be an unhealthy environment-ie. allergies to something in a classroom, etc. If your doctor didn't test in this way then they are not following AMA guidelines, which are even pretty specious. Keep in mind that students who simply aren't doing well in school are now being prescribed it. Social control perhaps?

Finally, for those with children with 'it', it may be of some interest to know that it can also mimic the effects of Celiacs disease. In this case the culprit is not sugar but gluten, especially wheat gluten. There are many gluten free foods nowadays. Unlike the other, Celiacs is actually a disease which can be tested, unfortunately it's a painful process and a better idea is to just try the kid without wheat or gluten for a month (it'll be better for them anyway). In celiac's they are missing an enzyme, so it is something that can be concretely identified. Finally, one shouldn't discount a mass 'sensitivity' to one or more commonly used chemicals in processed foods. We don't eat anything like our parents did, and perhaps it's finally catching up with us.
 

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RE: ADD & ADHD: Epidemic

In the March 2005 edition of Alternative Medicine:

"We've long been told that Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) is caused by an imbalance of chemicals in the brain. Now new research suggests that a simple iron deficiency may contribut to that imbalance - and that supplementation may help correct it.

In a french study, children with ADHD had about 50% lower levels of ferritin (a protein that helps the brain bind iron) than non-ADHD kids of the same age. The lower the levels, the more severe the symptons.

Lewis Mehl-Madrona, assitant professor of clinical psychiatry at the University of Arizona College of Medicine, recommends choosing an iron supplement specially formulated for children and starting with teh lowest dose on the label. He suggests giving it along with 500 to 2,000milligrams of vitamin C, depending on the child's age, which helps the body absorb and use iron more effectively."

This is not the first time this magazine has had similar articles regarding iron and ADHD.
 

Twila

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RE: ADD & ADHD: Epidemic

In the March 2005 edition of Alternative Medicine:

"We've long been told that Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) is caused by an imbalance of chemicals in the brain. Now new research suggests that a simple iron deficiency may contribut to that imbalance - and that supplementation may help correct it.

In a french study, children with ADHD had about 50% lower levels of ferritin (a protein that helps the brain bind iron) than non-ADHD kids of the same age. The lower the levels, the more severe the symptons.

Lewis Mehl-Madrona, assitant professor of clinical psychiatry at the University of Arizona College of Medicine, recommends choosing an iron supplement specially formulated for children and starting with teh lowest dose on the label. He suggests giving it along with 500 to 2,000milligrams of vitamin C, depending on the child's age, which helps the body absorb and use iron more effectively."

This is not the first time this magazine has had similar articles regarding iron and ADHD.
 

glenny

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First I'd likw to say hi to everyone I'm new. to the gentlemen tat said that taking sugar out of his daughters diet semed to help. This sounds like she might have issues with food. Controlloing the sugsr is a start but you should also look into the gluten factor but also dyes and hormones in foods. I know a little girl that when orange & red dyes were taken out of her diet her behavior was like night and day. Red dye was placed back in her diet no difference, orange dye was placed back in and all hell broke loose. needless to say she doesn't get anything with orange dye in it. please for your childs sake look at everything Sugar being the cause is a bit of a myth I would bet that it is more complex then that.
Now I see that people have been referring to ADD /ADHD as maybe they exsist. They do I know of a "couple of children that just can't sit still or concentrate no matter how bad they want to. All diets have failed therefore meds are an answer SADLY. The problem as I see it is that ADD/ADHD is over dx. The little I mentioned above was told by the school that she couldn't go any further in her learning unless she was placed on Ritalin to which was refused. She now reads at a gr 7 level has only been sent home once this year compared to 10 15 times last year. Now she is being told that she can't go any further without Risperdol again that has been refused. The point that I'am trying to make here is that none of this came from a doctor it all came from the school principal and special needs cordinator none of which has a medical degree.
Drugs are not the answer and have to be the last resort not the first. This little girl "had" a sleep disorder that went along with everything else. Her father was told for his health that she should be placed on a sleep aid instead theyn started walking up to 5 miles eveyday She slept like a baby. Now she has joined a track close to her house and runs a couple of miles a day and still sleeps like a baby. Use your imagination and you'll come up with something. This little girl is severly disabled she has Autism and was non verbal until 5.5 now you couldn't tell that she never talked. She has a memory like no other and is smart funny wise loveable and I'm so glad that I have fought to keep her off the drugs. There are better ways!!!
I live in St Catharines Ontario if there is anyone that would like their child to join in on our daily runs we also play football soccor basketball just a complete physical workout after school contact me I would be glad to help!! Stick with the fight and PLEASE PLEASE use drugs only after everything else you can possible think of before you go that route. Now if all else fails there is a supplement that I take called 5HTP it has a nice calming effect with no side effects. Just like eating a turkey dinner.
 

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Vanni Fucci said:
The same thing is happening here...

My daughter, who lives with her mother out of town, was diagnosed with ADHD, and prescribed a variety of behavioural modification drugs at different times including Ritalin and Dexadrin and in varying doses...

One summer, while she was staying with me, I took her off the drugs, because I was concerned about her health, and decided to regulate the sugar in her diet. It was rough at first, as she had the notion that she needed the drugs to be able to behave properly...but after a few days, her behaviour had improved...all without the terrible side-effects of the drugs she was formerly taking...


However, her mother doesn't believe me about the sugar, and didn't continue to regulate sugar in her diet, and now my daughter is having problems in school because of her behaviour, but I have been adamant about not putting her back on drugs, unless it is in conjunction with therapy, which she now desperately needs...

Now my son is acting out in school too...I wonder how long it will take to tag him as ADHD...

Thats exactly what I went thru Vanni. I begged my 'separated wife' to not put them on drugs, asked to try a bunch of natural remedies , and for understanding that my sons were full of life and not "a problem". WE just don't get control of these decisions when we are the one that got custody. THe ex-es are likely a bit brainwashed, full of the fears and propaganda of the medical side, just trying to be good moms and so on.

They do seem to be inventing "a disease for every pill" as much as trying to control disease.
They never look at the causes of diseases, and there is some speculation that the pharmaceutical industry is "creating" diseases too.
They create diseases in several ways:
one, by putting a disease name to a "condition" like obesity or balding or hyperactivity,
two, by spreading the live pathogens [in chemtrails and other ways] for actual diseases.
third, the toxic quality of our food, air, and water creates many abnormal behaviors and biological reactions that they treat with pills too.

I would say its just a business plan. Its been going on for a long time. Another part of it is to cut out the natural, non-patentable therapies so only pharmaceuticals will be used. Med schools, lisensing boards, and government regulatory agencies are where the process begins to subvert all who enter the field of medicine to use only the legally "patentable" products and therapies despite the side effects and dangers.

Karlin
 

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What concerns me is when teachers and schools make unqualified decisions about children, then harass the parent into putting their child on drugs. A doctor should be the only person qualified to make that recommendation to a parent that is struggling to make a decision about their child. Educational professionals think they are doing a good thing, but just like not making the diagnosis, they should not be making any recommendations as well.
 

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What concerns me is when teachers and schools make unqualified decisions about children, then harass the parent into putting their child on drugs. A doctor should be the only person qualified to make that recommendation to a parent that is struggling to make a decision about their child. Educational professionals think they are doing a good thing, but just like not making the diagnosis, they should not be making any recommendations as well.

Many school boards have tame doctors on staff. It is all about making life easier for teachers not about education.