Abortion

[tibear]

Twila,

I didn't say his opinion was wrong, obviously it is his opinion, not one that I share but he is entitled to his opinion.

If you had read my post, I simply said that his logic didn't make any sense. Would you feel better if I didn't choose child prostitution, how about bullies. There has been anti-bullying education in our schools for many years now and yet bullying still goes on. Should we simply give up and let the bullies do what they want because there are some of them who will continue regardless of the consequences.

Yes there will always be segments of our population that will continue to do any activity whether society wants them to or not. My point is that this isn't a good enough arguement to accept the behavior.

 

[Twila]

My point is that this isn't a good enough arguement to accept the behavior.

Abortion isn't a behavoir

 

[Twila]

My point is that this isn't a good enough arguement to accept the behavior.

Abortion isn't a behavoir

 

[Twila]

My point is that this isn't a good enough arguement to accept the behavior.

Abortion isn't a behavoir

 

[tibear]

Twila,

I hope your not simply making fun of the word I used.

What would your response have been if I chose to the word "procedure" instead??

 

[tibear]

Twila,

I hope your not simply making fun of the word I used.

What would your response have been if I chose to the word "procedure" instead??

 

[tibear]

Twila,

I hope your not simply making fun of the word I used.

What would your response have been if I chose to the word "procedure" instead??

 

[Twila]

If you had read my post, I simply said that his logic didn't make any sense

To which I suggested he did not see the world around him in such black and white terms as your equivelant rebuttal indigates you do

 

[Twila]

If you had read my post, I simply said that his logic didn't make any sense

To which I suggested he did not see the world around him in such black and white terms as your equivelant rebuttal indigates you do

 

[Twila]

If you had read my post, I simply said that his logic didn't make any sense

To which I suggested he did not see the world around him in such black and white terms as your equivelant rebuttal indigates you do

 

[tibear]

Twila,

Lets see if I get this straight.

Gonzo, makes a point that makes no logical sense. I point this out with an equilavently ludicrous statement and then you say I'm the one with an issue.

Who doesn't make sense??

I think your opinion regarding the subject matter is perhaps "shading" your objectivity in this debate.

I've stated openly that I don't believe in abortion because I believe that the child should have legal standing even before it is born. I will acknowledge that this is not the case right now and nothing prevents anyone from killing a baby without ramifications before it is born. Sad state but is our current reality.

I'm open to a discussion but the arguements should make logical sense, which in my opinion Gonzo's didn't.

 

[tibear]

Twila,

Lets see if I get this straight.

Gonzo, makes a point that makes no logical sense. I point this out with an equilavently ludicrous statement and then you say I'm the one with an issue.

Who doesn't make sense??

I think your opinion regarding the subject matter is perhaps "shading" your objectivity in this debate.

I've stated openly that I don't believe in abortion because I believe that the child should have legal standing even before it is born. I will acknowledge that this is not the case right now and nothing prevents anyone from killing a baby without ramifications before it is born. Sad state but is our current reality.

I'm open to a discussion but the arguements should make logical sense, which in my opinion Gonzo's didn't.

 

[tibear]

Twila,

Lets see if I get this straight.

Gonzo, makes a point that makes no logical sense. I point this out with an equilavently ludicrous statement and then you say I'm the one with an issue.

Who doesn't make sense??

I think your opinion regarding the subject matter is perhaps "shading" your objectivity in this debate.

I've stated openly that I don't believe in abortion because I believe that the child should have legal standing even before it is born. I will acknowledge that this is not the case right now and nothing prevents anyone from killing a baby without ramifications before it is born. Sad state but is our current reality.

I'm open to a discussion but the arguements should make logical sense, which in my opinion Gonzo's didn't.

 

[Twila]

Gonzo's point was in fact the situation before abortion became readily available. He was stating that should it be made illegal then women will be reduced to using coat hangers again.

 

[Twila]

Gonzo's point was in fact the situation before abortion became readily available. He was stating that should it be made illegal then women will be reduced to using coat hangers again.

 

[Twila]

Gonzo's point was in fact the situation before abortion became readily available. He was stating that should it be made illegal then women will be reduced to using coat hangers again.

 

[Gonzo]

Twila has it. Tibear, your argument doesn't make sense. By making abortion legal, we will be protecting the lives of women. Women will have abortions not matter what the law says, so as a society we should protect these people. This has nothing to do with abusing children. This argument is a very conservative tactic, by saying "if this is legal, then your opening up the doors for other more destructive behaviors". Is legalizing same sex marriage going to open the door for polygamy? No. Is legalizing pot going to open the door for cocaine? No. And how is legalizing abortion saying that we should legalize child prostitution? One is to protect women, child prostitution is abuse. They are not related.

 

[Gonzo]

Twila has it. Tibear, your argument doesn't make sense. By making abortion legal, we will be protecting the lives of women. Women will have abortions not matter what the law says, so as a society we should protect these people. This has nothing to do with abusing children. This argument is a very conservative tactic, by saying "if this is legal, then your opening up the doors for other more destructive behaviors". Is legalizing same sex marriage going to open the door for polygamy? No. Is legalizing pot going to open the door for cocaine? No. And how is legalizing abortion saying that we should legalize child prostitution? One is to protect women, child prostitution is abuse. They are not related.

 

[Gonzo]

Twila has it. Tibear, your argument doesn't make sense. By making abortion legal, we will be protecting the lives of women. Women will have abortions not matter what the law says, so as a society we should protect these people. This has nothing to do with abusing children. This argument is a very conservative tactic, by saying "if this is legal, then your opening up the doors for other more destructive behaviors". Is legalizing same sex marriage going to open the door for polygamy? No. Is legalizing pot going to open the door for cocaine? No. And how is legalizing abortion saying that we should legalize child prostitution? One is to protect women, child prostitution is abuse. They are not related.

 

[Machjo]

Should abortion be illegal? I won't even go near that bomb right now.

Is it immoral? I believe it is, but then again, I aslo believe we need to look at the root causes of it, and deal with those b3efore we can effectively deal with abortion.

Rape.
Prostitution.
Lack of sex education, character education, and other pertinent education.
poverty.
etc. etc etc.

After all, how can we tell a mother that she sholdn't have an abortion when we're not even prepared to present other options before her?

Immagine if we should tell the starving man that stealing bread is wrong? Won't have much effect now, will it, unless of course he was tought well from childhood, and was tought so well that he'd rather starve to death than steal a loaf of bread. So just as the best way to avoid theft is to tackle it from both angles (i.e., teach him it's wrong, and at the same time, take measures to ensure he's educated enough to find a job so he won't starve in the first place) so the same applies to agbortion (yes, teach them it's wrong, but also provide quality education and social support so they won't need to turn to abortion in the first place.