Abortion

[tibear]

SK,

I agree with your complaints with regards to support for expecting mothers and people with young children. We absolutely have to do more.

As for your remarks against the right, whom do you think currently runs the majority of "homes for pregnant teens" and "homes of single mothers". By far, the majority are run by religious organizations, which you would tend to categorize as "the right".

Care to reconsider your position regarding "the right" and what they do for the women in these situations??

 

[tibear]

SK,

I agree with your complaints with regards to support for expecting mothers and people with young children. We absolutely have to do more.

As for your remarks against the right, whom do you think currently runs the majority of "homes for pregnant teens" and "homes of single mothers". By far, the majority are run by religious organizations, which you would tend to categorize as "the right".

Care to reconsider your position regarding "the right" and what they do for the women in these situations??

 

[tibear]

SK,

I agree with your complaints with regards to support for expecting mothers and people with young children. We absolutely have to do more.

As for your remarks against the right, whom do you think currently runs the majority of "homes for pregnant teens" and "homes of single mothers". By far, the majority are run by religious organizations, which you would tend to categorize as "the right".

Care to reconsider your position regarding "the right" and what they do for the women in these situations??

 

[Twila]

Tibear,

This is an honest, I'm curious question. Not meant as snide or digging.

How do you feel about couples who've decided on abortion when they learn the fetus has something like down syndrome or a condition or disease that means no quality of life?

I'm honestly curious. Not trying to start a debate.

 

[Twila]

Tibear,

This is an honest, I'm curious question. Not meant as snide or digging.

How do you feel about couples who've decided on abortion when they learn the fetus has something like down syndrome or a condition or disease that means no quality of life?

I'm honestly curious. Not trying to start a debate.

 

[Twila]

Tibear,

This is an honest, I'm curious question. Not meant as snide or digging.

How do you feel about couples who've decided on abortion when they learn the fetus has something like down syndrome or a condition or disease that means no quality of life?

I'm honestly curious. Not trying to start a debate.

 

[SirKevin]

Re: RE: Abortion

As for your remarks against the right, whom do you think currently runs the majority of "homes for pregnant teens" and "homes of single mothers". By far, the majority are run by religious organizations, which you would tend to categorize as "the right".

Care to reconsider your position regarding "the right" and what they do for the women in these situations??

Well, I have a lot of trouble classifying people who run those pregnancy homes, homes for single mothers, etc, into the people that I lashed out at in my previous post in this thread.

You're right [no pun intended], I was probably a bit too vague in my defining "the right" in that post. I was talking more about the people who choose to criticise teenage mothers for again being slutty sinners, yet also criticise the ones who choose to have an abortion as baby killers...the ones who whine about what a horrible act of murder abortion is, yet don't acknowledge why abortions happen and tackle those issues head-on.

Generally, "those people" tend to be government people, also...

 

[SirKevin]

Re: RE: Abortion

As for your remarks against the right, whom do you think currently runs the majority of "homes for pregnant teens" and "homes of single mothers". By far, the majority are run by religious organizations, which you would tend to categorize as "the right".

Care to reconsider your position regarding "the right" and what they do for the women in these situations??

Well, I have a lot of trouble classifying people who run those pregnancy homes, homes for single mothers, etc, into the people that I lashed out at in my previous post in this thread.

You're right [no pun intended], I was probably a bit too vague in my defining "the right" in that post. I was talking more about the people who choose to criticise teenage mothers for again being slutty sinners, yet also criticise the ones who choose to have an abortion as baby killers...the ones who whine about what a horrible act of murder abortion is, yet don't acknowledge why abortions happen and tackle those issues head-on.

Generally, "those people" tend to be government people, also...

 

[SirKevin]

Re: RE: Abortion

As for your remarks against the right, whom do you think currently runs the majority of "homes for pregnant teens" and "homes of single mothers". By far, the majority are run by religious organizations, which you would tend to categorize as "the right".

Care to reconsider your position regarding "the right" and what they do for the women in these situations??

Well, I have a lot of trouble classifying people who run those pregnancy homes, homes for single mothers, etc, into the people that I lashed out at in my previous post in this thread.

You're right [no pun intended], I was probably a bit too vague in my defining "the right" in that post. I was talking more about the people who choose to criticise teenage mothers for again being slutty sinners, yet also criticise the ones who choose to have an abortion as baby killers...the ones who whine about what a horrible act of murder abortion is, yet don't acknowledge why abortions happen and tackle those issues head-on.

Generally, "those people" tend to be government people, also...

 

[Gabre34]

should abortion be illegal?

It shouldn't be, only if the woman was raped and/or has an incest child.

Exept that, yes, it should be illegal. Wear protection. Condoms exists for a reason you know.

 

[Gabre34]

should abortion be illegal?

It shouldn't be, only if the woman was raped and/or has an incest child.

Exept that, yes, it should be illegal. Wear protection. Condoms exists for a reason you know.

 

[Gabre34]

should abortion be illegal?

It shouldn't be, only if the woman was raped and/or has an incest child.

Exept that, yes, it should be illegal. Wear protection. Condoms exists for a reason you know.

 

[Diamond Sun]

I hear about unwanted pregnancies and think about all of the couples who would love to have a child. No child is unwanted.

Instead of being critical of the mother we should support them and give them everything they need to have the children. If the woman don't think they can support their child after the birth, then there are many, many couples willing to accept those children into their lives.

I wanted to go back to this point simply because many pro lifers go with this argument about there being many people willing to adopt children.

If so, why are there 70,000 orphans in Canada alone (there are 1.3 million in Mozambique)? I recall someone saying there is a 10 year waiting list for children. I can't believe that's because there are no children, it's more likely because the people that do adopt are picky on the "type" of child they want. Sad as it is.

 

[Diamond Sun]

I hear about unwanted pregnancies and think about all of the couples who would love to have a child. No child is unwanted.

Instead of being critical of the mother we should support them and give them everything they need to have the children. If the woman don't think they can support their child after the birth, then there are many, many couples willing to accept those children into their lives.

I wanted to go back to this point simply because many pro lifers go with this argument about there being many people willing to adopt children.

If so, why are there 70,000 orphans in Canada alone (there are 1.3 million in Mozambique)? I recall someone saying there is a 10 year waiting list for children. I can't believe that's because there are no children, it's more likely because the people that do adopt are picky on the "type" of child they want. Sad as it is.

 

[Diamond Sun]

I hear about unwanted pregnancies and think about all of the couples who would love to have a child. No child is unwanted.

Instead of being critical of the mother we should support them and give them everything they need to have the children. If the woman don't think they can support their child after the birth, then there are many, many couples willing to accept those children into their lives.

I wanted to go back to this point simply because many pro lifers go with this argument about there being many people willing to adopt children.

If so, why are there 70,000 orphans in Canada alone (there are 1.3 million in Mozambique)? I recall someone saying there is a 10 year waiting list for children. I can't believe that's because there are no children, it's more likely because the people that do adopt are picky on the "type" of child they want. Sad as it is.

 

[zenfisher]

Tibear...one question...Are you Male or Female?

 

[zenfisher]

Tibear...one question...Are you Male or Female?

 

[zenfisher]

Tibear...one question...Are you Male or Female?

 

[tibear]

Twila,

It depends on your perspective on "quality of life". I personally know many families that have down syndrome children. If you've ever met these people, they are probably the most loving and hard working individuals in the world. They have abilities that many people don't give them credit for. Sure they may never be doctors or lawyers but we also need people who simply work hard, do their best and make the world a better place.

I also have very close friends who had a test which showed severe problems with the baby and the doctor recommended an abortion. They refused because, the old cliche, the child was a gift. It turned out there was absolutely nothing wrong with the child. They would have killed a child that had no medical problems.

I guess it all depends upon your perspective of life. I see all life as precious right from conception. Just as I wouldn't kill any of my children because they had an accident and say lost both their legs I would treat the children in the womb with the same love.

Are there terrible diseases that people have to live with, absolutely, but we don't kill people because we find out they have say MS. Disease and hardship are part of life. Quality of life is something that is very difficult to put a value on. Some people couldn't imagine living out an existance in the poorest regions of our world and see it as a life not worth living. However, many of those people are happy and content. Who are we to decide for these children whether they would be happy or not with their quality of life. Most of the time, these babies are aborted not because of the quality of life they would have but rather the parents see all of the hardships they would have to go through to support the child. Rather than standing beside their child they take the easy way out and get rid of the problem.

As a couple, we've had a miscarriage. I can honestly say that we both felt like we lost one of our children. When people ask how many children we have I say three, but in my mind I say four. We mark the expected birth day on the calendar of our unborn child and have a special plant in our home to remember him/her. I still get tears whenever I think of the loss.

As I said before, I guess it all depends upon your feelings towards life and it preciousness.

Thanks for asking.

 

[tibear]

Twila,

It depends on your perspective on "quality of life". I personally know many families that have down syndrome children. If you've ever met these people, they are probably the most loving and hard working individuals in the world. They have abilities that many people don't give them credit for. Sure they may never be doctors or lawyers but we also need people who simply work hard, do their best and make the world a better place.

I also have very close friends who had a test which showed severe problems with the baby and the doctor recommended an abortion. They refused because, the old cliche, the child was a gift. It turned out there was absolutely nothing wrong with the child. They would have killed a child that had no medical problems.

I guess it all depends upon your perspective of life. I see all life as precious right from conception. Just as I wouldn't kill any of my children because they had an accident and say lost both their legs I would treat the children in the womb with the same love.

Are there terrible diseases that people have to live with, absolutely, but we don't kill people because we find out they have say MS. Disease and hardship are part of life. Quality of life is something that is very difficult to put a value on. Some people couldn't imagine living out an existance in the poorest regions of our world and see it as a life not worth living. However, many of those people are happy and content. Who are we to decide for these children whether they would be happy or not with their quality of life. Most of the time, these babies are aborted not because of the quality of life they would have but rather the parents see all of the hardships they would have to go through to support the child. Rather than standing beside their child they take the easy way out and get rid of the problem.

As a couple, we've had a miscarriage. I can honestly say that we both felt like we lost one of our children. When people ask how many children we have I say three, but in my mind I say four. We mark the expected birth day on the calendar of our unborn child and have a special plant in our home to remember him/her. I still get tears whenever I think of the loss.

As I said before, I guess it all depends upon your feelings towards life and it preciousness.

Thanks for asking.