It is not our business, at least not directly.
However, we live in a country with laws, and internet forums. Get over it.
Abortion -The poll is not based upon Religious belief - It is based ethics
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It is not our business, at least not directly.
However, we live in a country with laws, and internet forums. Get over it.
It's never really about life is it? It's about controlling sexuality. Women don't have any rights to their bodies whether we're talking about abortion or not. That's why a woman having sex out of her free will, and not the prescribed conservative manner, requires derision and punishment. Apparently a woman having consensual sex is a narcissist.
So in order for you to have a point, you must paint me as someone that is against consentual sex? LOL
You forgot "sl*t."
Well, it's certainly something only a narcissist would do, unless procreation is the goal, just like Gawd intended.
See the above quote from Gerry? That is where I come in. He was talking about when life begins, you mentioned scientists and doctors don't agree, and I responded in the thread. Biology is the world I work in, and to me the principal facts relevant to determining when life begins come from biology.
See, you are arguing about basic biological facts. Why would you consider egg and sperm part of my life span?
No, that's what you're talking about. I already referred you to Gerry's quote above.
IVF embryos do exist without the mother. That is indisputable. If they could not exist, there would be no such thing as IVF. A test tube baby isn't a lay term for a thin mom...
You've never heard of surrogate mothers before?
I don't need to paint you as such. You did it all yourself. You seem to be firmly convinced that women who want abortions after consensual sex are narcissists. But you're not so quick to pour your hatred and scorn on women who want abortions after non-consensual sex. It seems then that the problem isn't abortion, which pro-lifers insist it is. At the heart of matter, which you revealed, is your disdain for liberated female sexuality. You very clearly made the difference between consensual and non-consensual. Your insult applies only to those who had consensual sex. Clearly that is your problem. Not abortion.
Scientists agree on the biological steps of development. When "life" begins is a different question.
I am not arguing about anything to do with biology. I am stating a fact as part of my response to one of your arguments about why life should be considered as beginning at conception.
Things can also happen to sperm or eggs that would effect your life and not necessarily effect your parents life. So by your logic life should be considered as beginning when the sperm and egg were developed.
They can be outside of a womb for a very limited time, and they will not survive if they are not implanted into a woman.
you get a red for that one buddy...you are another judge before knowing the facts individual
The 70s called and want their sex ed guide back. Consensual sex can be had without pregnancies and without abortions. I reccomend that you try some that way.
Good, good! Get nasty about (your fantasies of) her sex life! That'll show her!
And it's way easier than a reasoned argument. Specially since you ain't got one.
Blow jobs and **** (ryhmes with aynul) and titty rubs and handjobs
Can you let me know what birth control methods are responsible for 30 abortions per 100 births?certainly you aren't blaming the pill or condoms?
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Yep. The Maritimes, Quebec, Ontario, BC, Nunavut. Gotta hit the plains provinces sometime. Hear it's the natural habitat of pseudo-scientists.
Condoms and pills are ~98% effective if used perfectly. That 2% actually adds up to a very large number of unwanted pregnancies.
Of course, that isn't the only source. Lots of people try to use those methods but use them wrong. And of course, some people just make a mistake and don't use them.
In the end, do you think that the people who do everything right still shouldn't have access to abortions?