I'm not religious, I don't believe in God. There are no fundamental principles in the spirituality I do believe. I am for the most part, Pro choice and I believe life begins at conception. No matter what anybody says, abortion is the act of killing life, full stop.
Life is the act of dying over time. I don't know when life begins. I'm not even sure everyone I meet is alive. I am like you in that I believe in choice. While I would like to have the conversation about when abortion is no longer appropriate, so far there hasn't been a discussion on this topic that can get past pro/anti positions.
I also recognize a need for some changes to the system, abortion has become a form of birth control.
Ah yes but that can of worms is one no one is eager to open
It's tiring, but entertaining...
People are passionate about this subject without question.
How many abortions have you had?
It's a good question and I think you for asking it.
When I met my wife, I knew right away that she was my soul mate. You've heard that word tossed around before I am sure but in my case, it is very accurate in describing our relationship. Three days after I met her we moved in together. Very young, she just finishing her last year of high school.
Not an easy go of it but hardship build character.
Within a couple of months, my wife became pregnant. She was scared, we talked about it and I told her that it's fine, kids are great and it's nothing we can't manage together. Granted not the way I would have wished for, but life happens at it's own pace.
Under threat of death, violence, shunning, logic, reason compassion, good advice and wisdom, I defended our relationship and the life of my unborn son against all comers. While I accepted advice on the ways and means, I would brook no nonsense about our abilities or lifestyle. In time all fell away like chaff in the wind.
We had our first kid with all the joy and terror that comes with the first one. All was fine, healthy wee chap and healthy happy wife. No clue as to what we were doing but we learned through experience and gained advice from others who had been through it. Made mistakes but none too big they couldn't be fixed.
I made that happen through sheer will and the trust and support of my wife.
That trust is what put the onus on me to make things right. My wife had the option to have an abortion, give the baby up, split up with me and keep the baby and she chose to put her trust in me to make a life for us and our family.
We were very young, and of the sort to rise to the challenge. You have kids, you know what that means.
There was little faith for us by those who should and eventually did support our decision. No matter, if you are parenting material, there are no barriers that can stand against your will.
That is the key, "Parenting Material". Not everyone is made for it. While some kids will grow up in a pretty good home with parents that try hard to raise their kids right, some won't. You've seen it in all likelihood in some friend of your kids or a kid at the school they went to at some point. Some kids are so abused, they kill themselves before they can get to any of the good stuff. They suffer so much and some succumb to that vile abuse and die at the hands of those very people charged with being the loving supportive people in their lives.
How much suffering is justified?
If someone knows they are going to make a life a terrible thing, they shouldn't be bringing kids into this world. But sh!t happens. People use it as birth control and that shouldn't happen but it's accepted because we can't bring ourselves to have that rational discussion about this subject without those very passionate about their position polarizing the discussion and ending the calm point based exchange.
So it's all on and don't talk about it. Both sides sit seething and outraged waiting for the time when someone does open that can of worms and things get out of hand.
Thanks for asking that question mate.
Our two kids, a boy and a girl have both managed to make it to the age of majority intact inspite of our parenting skills. heh heh Neither have kids of their own yet. Though with the older one, we're starting to nag about it as he's been married for a couple of years now and this old man is in need of a ready excuse for my childish behaviour. ;-)
