AB minimum wage going to $15 an hour in 2018!

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Who would work for 0.00? Clearly a business would need to provide at least some money before a person was willing to work; and if another business could outbid him for the same worker, then the business might need to compete for that worker. It's called supply and demand.
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Socialism! If REAL supply and demand were at play, every worker would earn the LEAST POSSIBLE AMOUNT! Those Eastern Commies ruined the labour market and now we have to pay workers enough to rent apartments and buy cars and food. The private employers suffer, so.

SUFFER!
 
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Curious Cdn said:
Socialism! If REAL supply and demand were at play, every worker would earn the LEAST POSSIBLE AMOUNT! Those Eastern Commies ruined the labour market and now we have to pay workers enough to rent apartments and buy cars and food. The private employers suffer, so.

SUFFER!
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A starving worker is not an effective worker.

If the wage goes down too low, he won't even be able to work.

A guaranteed minimum income would be a far more effective solution than a minimum wage that legislates unskilled workers out of the market.
 
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Not just the Gals the Dudes too.. right handy next to my gear shift..



Best targets are trolls..
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Just the ticket for the prairie dogs that sit on the center line and dash for the ditch and stop running when the are just off the shoulder. They don't expect the vehicle to follow them that far.
 
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White_Unifier said:
A starving worker is not an effective worker.

If the wage goes down too low, he won't even be able to work.

A guaranteed minimum income would be a far more effective solution than a minimum wage that legislates unskilled workers out of the market.
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Snowflake! Libtard! Obamie-commie! Bernie Saunders!

You must live in Ontario or Quebec. The rootin-tootin "draw yer gun pardner" Albertans know better.
 
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White_Unifier said:
Who would work for 0.00? Clearly a business would need to provide at least some money before a person was willing to work; and if another business could outbid him for the same worker, then the business might need to compete for that worker. It's called supply and demand.



Not wiener, Weimar... you know, the German republic established after WWI and collapsed because it thought it could just print its way to prosperity?
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that would only work when there are jobs available.Wich in notley's Alberta there are not.
 
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that would only work when there are jobs available.Wich in notley's Alberta there are not.
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Remove minimum-wage laws, open our borders to trade, and provide trades or professional education for the unemployed, and they could all have jobs with few exceptions. We could then have a guaranteed minimum income to cover that last group. however, a guaranteed minimum income would also mean higher personal taxes and so consumers would buy less, putting pressure on businesses to lower wages. There is no way a business could afford to pay taxes for a guaranteed minimum income and a legal minimum wage. I can't believe some people actually defend both. It has to be one or the other or businesses will go bust and then no one will have work.
 
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White_Unifier said:
Remove minimum-wage laws, open our borders to trade, and provide trades or professional education for the unemployed, and they could all have jobs with few exceptions. We could then have a guaranteed minimum income to cover that last group. however, a guaranteed minimum income would also mean higher personal taxes and so consumers would buy less, putting pressure on businesses to lower wages. There is no way a business could afford to pay taxes for a guaranteed minimum income and a legal minimum wage. I can't believe some people actually defend both. It has to be one or the other or businesses will go bust and then no one will have work.
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We already have a guaranteed minimum income. Called welfare. All that is required is enough ambition to go apply.
Trades training is available. Again they have to apply. However training apprentices is useless with a provincial government that is anti industry. Especially when there are journey persons not working.

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Is there a vehicle that doesn't?
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Lot's of them. Most fun is trucks that have had a transmission change but the map stayed the same. Mystery shifters.
 
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taxslave said:
We already have a guaranteed minimum income. Called welfare.
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And so that might be why businesses can't afford the legal minimum wage. Like I said, I don't think they can afford both. We could perhaps simplify the welfare system I suppose, but again someone has to pay for it and that will hurt a business' ability to afford a higher minimum wage.
 
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Curious Cdn said:
Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
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Prisons are competing with businesses for contracts here.

White_Unifier said:
And so that might be why businesses can't afford the legal minimum wage. Like I said, I don't think they can afford both. We could perhaps simplify the welfare system I suppose, but again someone has to pay for it and that will hurt a business' ability to afford a higher minimum wage.
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First step would be to get rid of the silly notion that people are entitled to money without working for it. Except of course those that are physically unable to do anything.
 
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Prisons are competing with businesses for contracts here.



First step would be to get rid of the silly notion that people are entitled to money without working for it. Except of course those that are physically unable to do anything.
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I would include physically and mentally, but yes, I get your point and I agree. Sometimes a tough love approach is necessary. I could even see the establishment of a Canadian Peace Corps that would hire the unemployed at a slightly below-market wage to work in various public projects after receiving education to gain work experience.

And depending on the kind of mental-health problem, making the person work could even be therapeutic in some cases. He might just need an initial hand up into the labour market.
 
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Prisons are competing with businesses for contracts here.



First step would be to get rid of the silly notion that people are entitled to money without working for it. Except of course those that are physically unable to do anything.
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They're entitled to as little you can possibly pay them. Tough luck, loser, if you can't live on your wage.
 
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petros said:
It's going to cost everybody, Empire (Sobeys) stated a couple weeks back they will be raising prices.
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That hasn't changed in 60 years since I was making a buck an hour, Pete! I think the poor are worse off today than they were then! There's got to be a better plan!
 
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