A Sign of the Times?

JLM

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Yesterday was the first time I'd ever seen such a thing. I stopped
at the compressor to top up a rear tire, on the way to going into
the Service Station for a couple of Packs of Cigarettes and a pack
of Hamburger Buns.

I didn't even notice the coin slot function until I was out of the car.
I got back in my car and drove elsewhere, and made my other
purchases where I actually put air in my tire. I stopped at that
Service Station because of the Air Compressor, and left that
same Service Station because of the new coin slot feature on
that same Air Compressor.

Not only did this PetroCanada NOT get my dollar for the air, but
they missed out on about $27 in other purchases in that one stop
by one person alone. I don't see this as a good idea either....

This is very new to where I live, but it seems not new to Toronto. Is
this idea wide spread elsewhere? What other weird signs of the
times with respect to superfluous fee's have you seen?

Off the subject, but that reminds me of an incident that happened to me about 25 years ago on Saltspring Island, where we were holidaying. I was in a book store perusing a book I was very interested in when after a few minutes the proprietor asked me "are you going to spend all day reading that book"? I immediately put the book back on the shelf and bought it at another bookstore up the street. MOTTO- the customer is always right.
 

kiwi_NZ

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paying a buck for air is hilarious. We've never had such a thing in NZ... How bizarre..

You guys are so funny how you respond to each other, I notice everyone kinda picks on SJP though, he is very, very knowledgable in most matters I have noticed 8O
 

gerryh

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paying a buck for air is hilarious. We've never had such a thing in NZ... How bizarre..

You guys are so funny how you respond to each other, I notice everyone kinda picks on SJP though, he is very, very knowledgable in most matters I have noticed 8O


Oh ya...ol sjp knows everything about everything....and if ya don't believe that...ask him...he'll tell ya. ROFL
 

kiwi_NZ

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Oh ya...ol sjp knows everything about everything....and if ya don't believe that...ask him...he'll tell ya. ROFL

Really!
I hear you've just made a come back young Gerry. Where ya been and noice to meet ya ;)
 

YukonJack

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Anytime I bought a new vehicle, I read the Owner's Maintenance Manual.

The dealership never saw hide or hair of me ever again. I have no desire to be ripped off for services I can get cheaper elsewhere.

Following the instructions in the Owner's Manual, I managed to have well over 300,000 kilomaters out of a '90 Pontiac Bonneville (I traded it in excellent condition for my present 2002 Sienna) a '91 Pontiac Sunbird (on icy road I bumped into a school bus at 250,000+ kilometers), not because I went back to the dealership for maintenance, but in spite of it. Both these vehicles were "family vehicles" shared by my wife, daughter and myself. I got well over 80,000 kilometers out of every tire my vehicles had on, built by my former employer, who also owns the shops I took my vehicles for routine maintenance.

In between I DID check my tires for pressure, and pumped air into them when it was necessary. Sometimes I paid for air and I did not mind, because, let us face it, it costs money to run an air compessor.
 

kiwi_NZ

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Anytime I bought a new vehicle, I read the Owner's Maintenance Manual.

The dealership never saw hide or hair of me ever again. I have no desire to be ripped off for services I can get cheaper elsewhere.

Following the instructions in the Owner's Manual, I managed to have well over 300,000 kilomaters out of a '90 Pontiac Bonneville (I traded it in excellent condition for my present 2002 Sienna) a '91 Pontiac Sunbird (on icy road I bumped into a school bus at 250,000+ kilometers), not because I went back to the dealership for maintenance, but in spite of it. Both these vehicles were "family vehicles" shared by my wife, daughter and myself. I got well over 80,000 kilometers out of every tire my vehicles had on, built by my former employer, who also owns the shops I took my vehicles for routine maintenance.

In between I DID check my tires for pressure, and pumped air into them when it was necessary. Sometimes I paid for air and I did not mind, because, let us face it, it costs money to run an air compessor.

OMG! Us Kiwis' so love your cars and when I'm settled I want a V8 truck! Heck I gotta learn to drive a left hand drive on the wrong side of the road! How you doing yukon Jack!

Do you see the Air North flight attendants much in the Yukon?
 

darkbeaver

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Anytime I bought a new vehicle, I read the Owner's Maintenance Manual.

The dealership never saw hide or hair of me ever again. I have no desire to be ripped off for services I can get cheaper elsewhere.

Following the instructions in the Owner's Manual, I managed to have well over 300,000 kilomaters out of a '90 Pontiac Bonneville (I traded it in excellent condition for my present 2002 Sienna) a '91 Pontiac Sunbird (on icy road I bumped into a school bus at 250,000+ kilometers), not because I went back to the dealership for maintenance, but in spite of it. Both these vehicles were "family vehicles" shared by my wife, daughter and myself. I got well over 80,000 kilometers out of every tire my vehicles had on, built by my former employer, who also owns the shops I took my vehicles for routine maintenance.

In between I DID check my tires for pressure, and pumped air into them when it was necessary. Sometimes I paid for air and I did not mind, because, let us face it, it costs money to run an air compessor.
That story of yours should be an inspiration to young people YukonJack, I'm always impressed by practicle people who know how to efficiently extract the value from a vehicle with common sence and regular attention.
 

SirJosephPorter

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So you're admitting in a public forum that you do not inspect your vehicle as per the department of transportations vehicle guidelines.

I thought I said exactly the opposite, darkbeaver. I was not aware that Department of transportation mandates that people should put air in their tire from time to time. Could you show me where they say that you must put air in the tires from time to time?

There are many things regarding maintenance that we used to do that we don’t do any more (at least I don’t). About 25 years ago it was necessary to check the water level in the battery and top it up from time to time. It was necessary to check the tire pressure and top up was required from time to time.

Well, times have changed; technology has advanced a lot since then. I haven’t checked the tire pressure (with a gauge) for the past 20 years and I am not about to start now. It is quite possible that they check tire pressure when I take the car for routine maintenance, when they rotate tires etc. But if they do, they don’t tell me.

do it for the blind kids who may not see your improperly illuminated Hyundie

Nowhere did I say anything about the lights, about the illumination, darkbeaver.
 

darkbeaver

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$30 at Canucktire will get you a compressor you can plug into the dashboard. I bought one 10 years or so ago. It still runs.

So a hand pump is not good enough for Mr Hoity Toity he has to have a fancy electric dashboard model all the way from china eh. People are laid off in the tire pump factory in my town Les and your the bastard that did it!:lol:
 

darkbeaver

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So you're admitting in a public forum that you do not inspect your vehicle as per the department of transportations vehicle guidelines.

I thought I said exactly the opposite, darkbeaver. I was not aware that Department of transportation mandates that people should put air in their tire from time to time. Could you show me where they say that you must put air in the tires from time to time?

There are many things regarding maintenance that we used to do that we don’t do any more (at least I don’t). About 25 years ago it was necessary to check the water level in the battery and top it up from time to time. It was necessary to check the tire pressure and top up was required from time to time.

Well, times have changed; technology has advanced a lot since then. I haven’t checked the tire pressure (with a gauge) for the past 20 years and I am not about to start now. It is quite possible that they check tire pressure when I take the car for routine maintenance, when they rotate tires etc. But if they do, they don’t tell me.

do it for the blind kids who may not see your improperly illuminated Hyundie

Nowhere did I say anything about the lights, about the illumination, darkbeaver.

Show you the regulations!1!!!! You are supposed to be entirely familiar with road safety issues Mr Porter before you drive not at some point in time years after you fraudulently obtained a drivers liscence by some slight of hand during the examination. Don't the tires rotate while the car is moving?:smile:
 

SirJosephPorter

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Show you the regulations!1!!!! You are supposed to be entirely familiar with road safety issues Mr Porter before you drive not at some point in time years after you fraudulently obtained a drivers liscence by some slight of hand during the examination. Don't the tires rotate while the car is moving?:smile:

I am familiar with regulations, darkbeaver. That is why I don’t believe you when you say that Department of Transport mandates that everybody must put air in their tires from time to time. Such regulation does not exist, that is why I asked you, show me the regulation.
 

YukonJack

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darkbeaver, thanks for saying:

"That story of yours should be an inspiration to young people YukonJack, I'm always impressed by practicle people who know how to efficiently extract the value from a vehicle with common sence and regular attention."

My 2002 Sienna needs about $1,500 worth of body work, but mechanically, due to my diligent adherence to the manufacturer's maintenace program it still runs like a Swiss watch, after more than 325,000 kilometers.

For maintenance, I would not trust a dealer as far as I could throw it. I would only go back to the dealer if it was obvious that the quality of the original equipment part is better than what I could get at Canadian Tire. Which is not that often.

When I have gotten the body work done on my Sienna, I will give it a professional detailing. Then I will be OK for another 200,000 kilometers, minimum, with the same kind of maintenance routine.

Needless to say, regardless what a dealer would tell me otherwise, I will trust the shop owned by my former employer (help maintaining my pension fund), I WILL use my common sense, get my hands dirty and will not consider checking the air pressure in my tires below my dignity.