A question for Trump supporters.

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Let me preface this by saying I was no fan fan of Hillary and really saw this last election as a no-win situation, but I gotta ask. Are you folks that support (ed) Trump really that steadfast? Do you not see the way he is conducting himself? Are you really buying the fake news crap and the Obama wiretapping?

Here's a question. Are any of you wavering in your support?

I listen to the news daily and what comes out of this man's mouth makes him sound like child who shouldn't be trusted to run the Tilt-a-Whirl at a second rate carnival. He constantly contradicts himself, he won't back up his own remarks and he storms off like a little baby when he's asked to clarify his remarks.

How in God's name can anyone not be embarrassed by this moron? And that's how I see him and not by media attacks, but his own stupid twitter rants and verbal diarrhea. I'll agree that Hillary was the worst possible candidate, but good grief, this twit is in charge of the most powerful country in the world.

Honestly, are any of you in the least critical?

 

[Jinentonix]

Other than him being in charge of the most powerful country in the world, he's still better than what we're stuck with for now.
Having said that, I think part of Trump's problem is simply a lack of experience in the political realm. He's used to saying, "Jump" and people asking him, "How high?"
Every time someone points out his reactions and behaviours I just compare them to the image of Trudeau, sulking on his "throne" before storming across the floor and elbowing an MP in the boobs while he was throwing a temper tantrum.

Then I think about Trudeau's empty platitudes along with the other amazingly stupid sh*t he manages to say and the fact that he doesn't give a good goddam about Canada or Canadians and think to myself, "While Trump might be a putz, I honestly believe he actually cares about his country. And I believe simply because of his ego he wants to do a good job."
He really doesn't like failing at the things he does.

Trudeau on the other hand couldn't give a sh*t. He didn't give a damn about his job as an MP so why would anyone think he cares now that he's PM. He's hauling in $340,000/yr to ruin the country. And if he already doesn't have his 6 years in at the senior level, by the time he's done as PM he'll qualify for his lifetime golden pension. That's what Trudeau cares about. Well that and the potential of a UN appointment position.

So to answer your question, yes I'm critical of Trump, when he actually deserves the criticism. I don't need some nitwit (not you RCS lol)telling me what I should be critical of simply because it offends their ideological sensibilities.
I'm certainly far more critical of Trudeau than I am towards Trump, but that might simply be because I have a helluva lot more at stake here than in the US.
To be honest though, if we could make a straight trade, Trudeau for Trump, I'd be awfully tempted to take the trade.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Let me preface this by saying I was no fan fan of Hillary and really saw this last election as a no-win situation, but I gotta ask. Are you folks that support (ed) Trump really that steadfast? Do you not see the way he is conducting himself? Are you really buying the fake news crap and the Obama wiretapping?

Here's a question. Are any of you wavering in your support?

Nope. If anything, he's assuaged my concerns.

I listen to the news daily and what comes out of this man's mouth makes him sound like child who shouldn't be trusted to run the Tilt-a-Whirl at a second rate carnival. He constantly contradicts himself, he won't back up his own remarks and he storms off like a little baby when he's asked to clarify his remarks.

How in God's name can anyone not be embarrassed by this moron?

Easy. We just look north and say "It could be worse."

And that's how I see him and not by media attacks, but his own stupid twitter rants and verbal diarrhea. I'll agree that Hillary was the worst possible candidate, but good grief, this twit is in charge of the most powerful country in the world.

Honestly, are any of you in the least critical?

Sure, all the time. But I judge the administration by what it does, not by what they're now calling "optics."

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Nope. If anything, he's assuaged my concerns.

I know you get under the skin of some here at the forum, but for the most part you make me laugh. Although, I must admit, sometimes it's tough to gauge whether you are just being sarcastic or drunk posting.

Sure, all the time. But I judge the administration by what it does, not by what they're now calling "optics."

Pssst, the correct term is, air quotes, FAKE OPTICS.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I know you get under the skin of some here at the forum, but for the most part you make me laugh. Although, I must admit, sometimes it's tough to gauge whether you are just being sarcastic or drunk posting.

He's considerably moderated his positions on NATO, NAFTA, China, the budget, and several other hot-button issues.

I'm also pleased with your reaction to me. You're one of the few I'm interested in doing anything more than winding up.

Pssst, the correct term is, air quotes, FAKE OPTICS.

So what? In my lifetime we've had a Boston playboy, a stereotypical Texas cowboy, a rat-faced paranoiac, a stumbling oaf, a downhome cracker, a dimwitted grandfather, another cracker who also had real problems keeping his dick in his drawers, and a drunken frat boy in the Oval Office. The only two presidents we've had in 50 years who look "Presidential" were the elder Bush and Obama. They're the exception, not the rule. So now we have a New York used-car salesman. How is that out of place in this rogue's gallery?

 

[pgs]

I was on Trump's side for two reasons .
1 . He blew up the republican establishment in the primaries without spending countless millions of other people's money .
2 . I cannot stand Hillary Clinton .

That said I always believed that Trump will fail ala Jesse The Body Ventura . I am still hoping for good from this presidency , they have secured the nomination to the Supreme Court , they have started cleaning out some areas of the EPA and they look to be pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord . Not a bad start .

 

[captain morgan]

@ OP

I am of the same mind as yourself RCS in that I was not wholly supportive of any candidate, although I do believe that the USA dodged a big bullet in not electing Clinton.

On the performance side of things, Trump (like him or not) has been working hard to generate results in a short period of time.. Agree or disagree with his policies, he is taking fast action to implement them.

As far as his experience (or lack thereof) as a politician, it's refreshing to have someone in office that is so obviously political that nothing gets done whatsoever (read: Trudeau).

 

[JLM]

Let me preface this by saying I was no fan fan of Hillary and really saw this last election as a no-win situation, but I gotta ask. Are you folks that support (ed) Trump really that steadfast? Do you not see the way he is conducting himself? Are you really buying the fake news crap and the Obama wiretapping?

Here's a question. Are any of you wavering in your support?

I listen to the news daily and what comes out of this man's mouth makes him sound like child who shouldn't be trusted to run the Tilt-a-Whirl at a second rate carnival. He constantly contradicts himself, he won't back up his own remarks and he storms off like a little baby when he's asked to clarify his remarks.

How in God's name can anyone not be embarrassed by this moron? And that's how I see him and not by media attacks, but his own stupid twitter rants and verbal diarrhea. I'll agree that Hillary was the worst possible candidate, but good grief, this twit is in charge of the most powerful country in the world.

Honestly, are any of you in the least critical?

"How in God's name can anyone not be embarrassed by this moron?"


That question was being asked before the election. Anyway I'm still behind Trump. His ideas are good and he's trying hard to implement them. Every law, piece of legislation starts with a simple that idea that has been reworked, adjusted, tweaked many times before coming to fruition. "Rome wasn't built in a day". Trump definitely has some 'rough edges' but is 50 times more desirable than Hillary as a President.
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[Retired_Can_Soldier]

@ OP

I am of the same mind as yourself RCS in that I was not wholly supportive of any candidate, although I do believe that the USA dodged a big bullet in not electing Clinton.

What do you think would have happened under Hillary?

On the performance side of things, Trump (like him or not) has been working hard to generate results in a short period of time.. Agree or disagree with his policies, he is taking fast action to implement them.

If he'd put down his phone, shut his yap and hire a makeup artist who isn't f_cking colorblind, I might take him a bit more seriously. But he freaks out even when comedians satirize him on SNL. A long tradition by the way. Maybe he ought to call up GW Bush for some pointers on how to turn the other cheek.

As far as his experience (or lack thereof) as a politician, it's refreshing to have someone in office that is so obviously political that nothing gets done whatsoever (read: Trudeau).

Trudeau is a whole other can of worms. A lame duck PM for sure, but (and this will probably raise the ire in some) I'd take his lame ass over the orange menace any day of the week.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

"How in God's name can anyone not be embarrassed by this moron?"


That question was being asked before the election. Anyway I'm still behind Trump. His ideas are good and he's trying hard to implement them. Every law, piece of legislation starts with a simple that idea that has been reworked, adjusted, tweaked many times before coming to fruition. "Rome wasn't built in a day". Trump definitely has some 'rough edges' but is 50 times more desirable than Hillary as a President.
"

He's certainly your best chance to get torture reinstated.

 

[TenPenny]

Trump's biggest downside is that when anyone disagrees with him, he insults them, berates them, and goes after them. That's not going to help get anything done in politics.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I was on Trump's side for two reasons .
1 . He blew up the republican establishment in the primaries without spending countless millions of other people's money .

Not true, actually. He said that he was spending his own money, but as in so many things, that's only part of the story. The rest is that he lent that money to his campaign, and when the donor money rolled in, his campaign paid him back. So it was pretty much a transaction between his left hand and his right hand, and he took as much "special interest" money as Clinton did.

2 . I cannot stand Hillary Clinton .
]That said I always believed that Trump will fail ala Jesse The Body Ventura . I am still hoping for good from this presidency , they have secured the nomination to the Supreme Court , they have started cleaning out some areas of the EPA and they look to be pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord . Not a bad start .

Well, I certainly back a dirtier, more polluted country.

The big upside so far is that on trade and international affairs Trump has declared an end to the era of the U.S. allowing itself to be screwed by the client states in order to get them on board. Most of the international order was established by the U.S. in the post-WWII period, and as I said, we deliberately signed unfavorable agreements and treaties to aid in the rebuilding of war-torn countries and in the hope that we could spread Western democracy. At the time we could afford it, and it's probably been as successful as it was likely to be. Nowadays we're no longer the superdominant superpower, largely due to the success of our post-WWII programs, and it's time for the little kiddles to start paying the grown-up ticket price.

 

[JLM]

He's certainly your best chance to get torture reinstated.

Who has he talked about torturing?

 

[DaSleeper]

If Trump continues to act the way he does now, the next election will go to the Democrats, unless the Republican party has an outstanding candidate to challenge him in the next primaries.

 

[damngrumpy]

Some people are saying a chronic liar with all the hallmarks of a sociopath
and an alleged sexual abuser is better than what we had? For eight years
we were free of scandal and had a measure of knowing where we were going
to be replaced by a childlike moron who insists on changing his mind hourly
He even does the clapping thing Kim Un does at public events it propels his
narcissism. He has no real policy and every time he infringes on the law and
the courts bring him back to reality he holds a rally because he has no depth
to think things through. Watching him brings to my attention Benito Mussolini
was never as arrogant as Trump

 

[EagleSmack]

Some people are saying a chronic liar with all the hallmarks of a sociopath
and an alleged sexual abuser is better than what we had?

Are you talking about Bill Clinton?

For eight years
we were free of scandal

Fast and Furious... Benghazi... IRS...Spying on our allies...

oh why do I bother with you.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Who has he talked about torturing?

I'm not your news service. You have the internet literally at your fingertips. Try doing some research.

 

[JLM]

I'm not your news service. You have the internet literally at your fingertips. Try doing some research.

So you have no one in mind!

I see numb nuts is quiet this morning! Did he get the "86"?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

So you have no one in mind!

I see numb nuts is quiet this morning! Did he get the "86"?

So, rather than google it, you'll arrive at a false conclusion based on what you can't possibly know.

Yep, the mental processes of a Canadian torture fetishist.

 

[captain morgan]

What do you think would have happened under Hillary?

It was ultra scary how Ms Clinton absolutely promised everything to all comers and attempted to initiate the tried-and-true strategy of promoting class warfare as the means to divide and conquer

That aside, my personal take is that she was more interested in making a splash for the history books than she was for pulling her nation out of the economic doldrums it was/is in.

If he'd put down his phone, shut his yap and hire a makeup artist who isn't f_cking colorblind, I might take him a bit more seriously. But he freaks out even when comedians satirize him on SNL. A long tradition by the way. Maybe he ought to call up GW Bush for some pointers on how to turn the other cheek.

I don't disagree with any of the above, but I will refer back to his effectiveness (or at least attempts) in his role as POTUS... You didn't live in AB at the time, but Ralph Klein was in many respects like Trump... Say what you will about his personality, Klein was instrumental in getting AB on a solid econ footing and promoting an environment that was very positive for the community(s) at large

i think that Trump has that kind of potential

Trudeau is a whole other can of worms. A lame duck PM for sure, but (and this will probably raise the ire in some) I'd take his lame ass over the orange menace any day of the week.

Trudeau will likely accomplish very little and essentially waste a lot of time and not advance Canada one iota.... That time could have been invested into actions that had a positive impact on Canadians rather than no impact at all

Yep, the mental processes of a Canadian torture fetishist.

Don't push me man.... Don't make me send another Celine Dion-esque bomb South of the border