A Postal Unions Fight Against Modernization

Liberalman

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A Postal Unions Fight Against Modernization



As this country’s Post Office
tries to modernize so it can be sold to the private sector, the unions are
fighting back.



Below is the latest letter
from the Canadian Union Of Postal Workers or CUPW http://www.cupw.ca



Considering that their
contract is ending on the last day of January 2011 this might be just the
beginning.



December 2, 2010







On November 22, after 9 weeks of working with the new Modern Post
model, Letter Carriers in Winnipeg walked off the job. We decided that it was
important that we would go to Winnipeg to hear first hand what caused the
Carriers to walk out; and what we heard was quite disturbing.



Two Bundles Cause Injuries and Pressure



Letter Carriers feel pressure and distress with the new model;
they told us that they do not feel safe delivering the mail using the two
bundle system. The new delivery method has forced carriers to carry a load on
their forearm which is unstable as it contains not only flats but manual sorted
letters. To further complicate the process, the Carriers are expected to
somehow be able to incorporate the handling of several sets of house holders as
well. Several Carriers have been injured since the implementation of the new
work method both from having to trap the mail awkwardly in their arms and not
being able to have a view of their feet or the ground. One of the workers
stated that the Corporation must have confused “forearm” with “forearms” when
developing the model.



With the implementation of the two wave system, workers are
pressured to depart as soon as possible to make way for the second wave.
However, the process is so poorly managed that departure times are routinely
delayed.



Supervisors Carry One Bundle



Staff is lacking and in fact CPC is offering overtime on weekends
to deliver walks and supervisors are delivering as well. We have also
discovered that supervisors from other cities are coming to deliver the mail.
On an extremely frustrating note, supervisors are not obliged to follow the two
bundle method and are allowed to sort all the mail into the case. While at the
same time these Supervisors threaten Letter Carriers with suspensions if they
do the same.



Plant Staffing a Problem



We took the opportunity to speak with members in the plant as
well, in total we spoke with more than 500members. We heard the same
frustration and distress from plant workers. There is not enough staff and the
lack of rotation of duties is causing many health and safety problems.



Delays and Service problems



Another theme we heard that resonated throughout the city was the
employer’s disregard for service. Walks are not getting delivered everyday, in
some instances portions of walks are not getting out for days. In the plant
mail is sitting without getting processed while commitment dates are getting
changed as often as one changes underwear. Members have said that when they
raise service problems to management it is like talking to a wall.



CUPW Brings Problems to the Bargaining table



On Monday November 29, we had a meeting of the main table for
negotiations and raised the problems that the workers in Winnipeg were
experiencing. We stated that things need to be addressed now and in the
meantime, the employer should stop rolling out the Modern Post. The employer’s
response: “We will not stop implementations as we need to see a return on our
investment and that we are working on the other problems.”



It is obvious, for the employer profits come before people and
service. On November 25, the membership demonstrated their support for our
brothers and sisters in Winnipeg. We have to continue our solidarity and send a
message to the employer negotiate now or on the street. The struggle
continues.



In solidarity,



Denis Lemelin

National President
 

JLM

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I have no gripe about postal workers (my mail is delivered in a professional manner by a woman who is fast, friendly and courteous and a hard worker). Postal workers are facing a grim reality- that being the postal service is less required than it was a decade or two ago. Cheques can be directly deposited, bills can be delivered on line. Emails have largely replaced the letter. Of course some of the old services are still required as not everyone has ventured into cyber technology. Maybe everyone involved from the manager and supervisor down to the mail carrier has to become a little more resourceful if they are going to survive.
 

Unforgiven

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Put the damn thing down and be done with it. 9 pieces of junk that goes straight into the garbage for each piece of mail that you might actually read. Like the penny, it's time has long since past and we need to move on and leave these artefacts for the historical record.
 

taxslave

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The best thing the post office could do is abandon door to door service and put in group boxes everywhere. Not only would this significantly cut delivery costs there would be no more whining from posties about heavy loads.
 

JLM

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The best thing the post office could do is abandon door to door service and put in group boxes everywhere. Not only would this significantly cut delivery costs there would be no more whining from posties about heavy loads.

That would certainly be a great saving and wouldn't hurt people like myself one iota. I'd be a little concerned about housebound seniors and the disabled though.
 
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taxslave

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That would certainly be a great saving and wouldn't hurt people like myself one iota. I'd be a little concerned about housebound seniors and the disabled though.

Most of my life has been where there is no mail delivery. People adapt. In many communities everyone must go all the way to the post office to get their mail.
 

JLM

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Most of my life has been where there is no mail delivery. People adapt. In many communities everyone must go all the way to the post office to get their mail.

Yep, that was me the last place I lived. (they seldom had anything worthwhile for me anyway)
 

eh1eh

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I do a little work for CPC on a sub-contract basis. They are doing this to everyone the deal with. If their proposed changes take effect I will not touch another piece of mail as they are trying to cut the rate in half. Fortunatley I don't have a contract so I can tell them to go pound salt anytime. It is going to be a bitch for the outfit I sub to as they have about four more years on their contract and will be screwed.
 

relic

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So most of you goomers must think that everybody lives nice and close,like in town,and that everybody has a computer,stupid and selfish,y'all have two bases covered.
 

JLM

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So most of you goomers must think that everybody lives nice and close,like in town,and that everybody has a computer,stupid and selfish,y'all have two bases covered.

No- but I bet 75% of people have access to a computer and over 50% live within 2 miles of a post office. Don't tar everyone with the same brush Relic. :smile:
 

wulfie68

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So most of you goomers must think that everybody lives nice and close,like in town,and that everybody has a computer,stupid and selfish,y'all have two bases covered.

No. Mom and Dad lived out in the sticks, a couple clicks, and had to come into town to get the mail from their P.O. box every day or whenever they wanted it. This wasn't any great hardship for them. Front door service is an unnecessary luxury... but it would see a lot of carriers lose their positions, which is why the union is fighting so hard to keep the whole system going as their usage dwindles due to technological advances.
 

JLM

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No. Mom and Dad lived out in the sticks, a couple clicks, and had to come into town to get the mail from their P.O. box every day or whenever they wanted it. This wasn't any great hardship for them. Front door service is an unnecessary luxury... but it would see a lot of carriers lose their positions, which is why the union is fighting so hard to keep the whole system going as their usage dwindles due to technological advances.

It's pretty hard to justify a job solely because it creates employment. Once that happens there could be scads of jobs polishing rocks on the beach.
 

ironsides

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Just don't let them privatize like ours did, and make it against the law for Canadian goverment workers to go on strike. (not sure if it is or not)
 

Liberalman

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For several weeks now, negotiations have been at the heart of the Union’s activities. Yesterday,January 17, 2011, members of the National Executive Board reviewed the actions of the employer anddecided it was time to push back.
The Board decided to send the following letter to Mark MacDonell, Chief Negotiator, Canada Post:

Sir:
We are hereby officially calling on you to resume negotiations for the urbanoperations unit and provide us with meeting dates by noon on Wednesday, January 19, 2011. You must provide uswith dates for the two weeks following this deadline.

I’d like to point out that you were supposed to call us last week to plan a meeting or to advise us of any reassessment of Canada Post’s positions. You did not do so, and this wasn’t the first time it has occurred.


If you fail to respond to our request by the above-mentioned deadline, theUnion will have no choice but to apply for conciliation as provided for under the Canada LabourCode. Our members face problems in the workplace that need to be addressed as soon as possible.

If during the two weeks following January 19 we don’t see any significant progress, we will take appropriate measures to force negotiations.

The employer must change its approach. It has to drop its demands for rollbacks and negotiate solutions tothe very real problems members experience in the workplace. That is the clear message we have delivered to the employer.
Now, it’s important to put pressure on the employer everywhere
.
RESPECT, EQUALITY AND SHARING THE BENEFITS
Let’s show our collective strength.
The struggle continues.

In solidarity,

Denis Lemelin
National President and Chief Negotiator
 

TenPenny

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For several weeks now, negotiations have been at the heart of the Union’s activities. Yesterday,January 17, 2011, members of the National Executive Board reviewed the actions of the employer anddecided it was time to push back.
The Board decided to send the following letter to Mark MacDonell, Chief Negotiator, Canada Post:

Sir:
We are hereby officially calling on you to resume negotiations for the urbanoperations unit and provide us with meeting dates by noon on Wednesday, January 19, 2011. You must provide uswith dates for the two weeks following this deadline.

I’d like to point out that you were supposed to call us last week to plan a meeting or to advise us of any reassessment of Canada Post’s positions. You did not do so, and this wasn’t the first time it has occurred.


If you fail to respond to our request by the above-mentioned deadline, theUnion will have no choice but to apply for conciliation as provided for under the Canada LabourCode. Our members face problems in the workplace that need to be addressed as soon as possible.

If during the two weeks following January 19 we don’t see any significant progress, we will take appropriate measures to force negotiations.

The employer must change its approach. It has to drop its demands for rollbacks and negotiate solutions tothe very real problems members experience in the workplace. That is the clear message we have delivered to the employer.
Now, it’s important to put pressure on the employer everywhere
.
RESPECT, EQUALITY AND SHARING THE BENEFITS
Let’s show our collective strength.
The struggle continues.

In solidarity,

Denis Lemelin
National President and Chief Negotiator

That boy needs some writing lessons. The first paragraph is written in the plural, the second in the singular.

All in all, it's a horrible letter, badly written. He/they need a good editor. I'd be tempted to send it back corrected with a red pen.
 

damngrumpy

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The problem with a modern society is there are as many opinions as there are people. Of course
you cannot get rid of a postal service in our societal model. Changes are required though and we
have to be open to change, it's always with us. People who are against change for change sake
are Luddites.
As for the current situation, there are undoubtedly some serious problems that need to be addressed
and then there is the bargaining game. Like a good game of chess the postal authorities get the next
move.
Oh and getting rid of the post office, not a good idea, remember we have some pretty nasty people out
there mailing all kinds of things. there is the potential for terrorists using the mail service for all kinds of
illegal action. The Government Post Office is enshrined in Federal Criminal Law Protection that many
of the other carriers are no
The mail service will be around log after you and I are gone, who knows they may even send what's
left of you or I by Canada Post, yes I jest.