If I can will you accept or dismiss it?
I am too busy with my own projects to help you this weekend.
A Few Honest Questions for the Climate Hoaxers?
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If I can will you accept or dismiss it?
I am too busy with my own projects to help you this weekend.
How about if I thump just one claim right now and get on with rest rest one by one? Do you really want to stick by the 1 inch a year sea level rise BS?
So that is a " yes I've been paid to do drywall"?
So that is a " yes I've been paid to do drywall"?
Yup, an inch a year. Was it the other NASA making that claim?
Why I don't believe in AGW......... The vast majority of "predictions" put out by the GW/AGW/CC crowed has been wrong. They have scare, or at least tried to scare, the general population of doom and gloom which has included mass flooding (which again is being predicted for coastal areas, guess they figure if they predict it enough times they'll eventually get it right) mass human deaths, massive droughts, north and south ice caps melting (as in disappearing which would cause the aforementioned flooding). To name only a few.
DO I believe in science? You betcha. In my opinion, GW/AGW/CC is not science. It is politics. It has turned into another religion.
DO I believe in science? You betcha. In my opinion, GW/AGW/CC is not science. It is politics. It has turned into another religion.
Yup. In fact tough guy...........I dare you to go update the wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise from "sea level rise has been estimated to be on average +2.6 mm and +2.9 mm per year ± 0.4 mm since 1993."
I have drywalled but never been paid. What's your point?
Yup. same guys who just hoaxed the Pluto flyby.
What "alternate statement of fact"? Some youtube blather from climate truther 69? Give me some thing real from an actual real scientific body Like NASA or the NRC or even an accredited university and I'll definitely look at it.
I don't dispute it being a type of tax if it ever actually materialized but there is lots of hypothetical taxes I oppose that have no bearing on my overall beliefs. I oppose carbon taxes but for different reasons as you. I am an actual right winger who hates subsidizing everyone's poor lifestyle and consumption choices. In business it is what we call externalized costs. So for example when company A manufactures high fructose corn syrup for the food industry I ultimately pay for the negative consequences of it being in practically all packaged food through higher healthcare costs I pay with my taxes while the company itself is exempt and those expenses never show on the balance sheet.........because I pay for it.
If you really look at things from the far right of the political spectrum you pay for these externalized costs in your taxes for so many products it is insane. Bottom line......user should pay full costs. If gasoline emissions and the resulting smog are making some people sick and creating a healthcare burden figure out what it is and recoup the cost at the pump, refund it to healthcare and cut my taxes. Let market forces build me a nice truck that uses a cheaper fuel. Want to stop excessive water consumption? Make people pay the full cost of it. Do I really need to support another Walmart by subsidising their access roads and infrastructure for their big box stores when I don't even shop there? How about their low wages being externalized through government programs and tax breaks for those employees at my higher tax expense just so you can buy cheap Chinese plastic crap that Statscan says you'll toss in 6 months and I have to pay to landfill or recycle it? It goes on and on and on.
You Liberals........ugh....!
One of the ironies in all this is only the societal wealth and prosperity enjoyed by the production of fossil fuels affords us our only fighting chance in addressing the climate change problem.
Let's look at this pragmatically. With the increased and lower cost production of oil human populations rose. in equilibrium. They did this because we consume upwards of 10 petro calories for every actual calorie we consume. In other words we have converted oil to food by the use of fossil fuels to provide us with fertilizer, fuel for our tractors, and to even process and transport a simple salad 1000s of miles everyday.
A Canadian lifestyle is not feasible for a planet of 7 billion. Less so for the estimated 10 billion that will soon be here. And can we stop there? Where do we draw the line? At least when oil is 130 a barrel birth rates drop as food get crazy expensive in the third world where they feel it first.
If you're so concerned about human welfare why have I never seen you comment about cancer being the leading cause of death in China and we should consume less in the West?
Sigh. Am I a sheeple too?
I haven't a hard answer and don't pretend to. But here is what I do know that I learned in the military, farming and business: Listen to the experts. Simple as that. Don't want to listen to the intelligence officer and instead go with your guts often people die. Want to ignore the advice from the Crop Diversification Centre because they are a bunch of liberal hacks you will pay for it in disease or lower yields. Want to ignore the bankers and investment advisers you will lose money. The road to success for any subject is to learn to ignore the naysayers and listen to the experts. The Int guys in white coats are telling me the enemy is here and to expect X as their capabilities. I couldn't ignore it if I tried.
Don't know much about the subject. I do know that here in a large city I walk outside at night and cannot see the stars for the pollution . Gonna move to a place where I can see the stars at night again God willing. Seems like both sides of the issue have good points yet neither side would ever be willing to take a hard look at those because it is political.
f-ck nut, 2.5mm is around 1/10th of an inch. Think about that.
You are an idiot.
Are you saying that there are 2.5 mm per inch!!??
BTW, here is what NOAA says about sea level rise. Sea levels are rising on average. Some areas are going up, but other parts have the sea level going down, especially in the north... Sea Level Trends - NOAA Tides and Currents
Not god willing. This stuff only happens if you make it so.
Not this guy. I'm the farthest right on this board and my politics does not interfere with common sense (keeping the guns out of the hands of immigrants, criminals and the insane) or listening to the experts who eat sleep live love and breath the subject.
And so it is.
And I admit the error.
Error has been acknowledged. I make no excuses.
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no!!! I'm saying there are 25mm to an inch.
Now we know why you don't get paid to drywall. A paid drywalled can use a f-cking tape.
Well, you're wayyy off. There are 25.4 mm to an inch.
In all seriousness, this 2.5 mm to the inch business is exactly how people believe that we are in a major crisis over AGW. They make a couple of calculation errors or read a couple of media headlines that make the same errors, and then jump to the conclusion that the Harold Camping Global Warming Rapturists are accurately predicting our doom.
According to the link most of the US, Indo china and equatorial regions are rising by at least 1/2 an inch per year per century.
What, not again!! You've messed up the decimal again, or something like that! The fastest rising places in the United States are under 10mm/year, and they are Islands. This is a case of land sinking more than the ocean rising.
I admit I'm no metrosexual and km\hr and Celsius are about all I get. However, the link says 4 feet/century as an average for much of the US and that is just about 1/2 inch per year no?
Did you click on the arrows?? There is not one station in the united states rising even close to 4 feet per century! Man, you must have a really good batch of drugs today. I'll PM you my address so you can share.