A Factual (as possible) Breakdown of Campaign Promises

[cranky]

Well, I'll be damned.

should I draw the conclusion that no one on this forum wants to find an answer to this question?

So it looks like both Harper and Ignatief are being decietful.

Harper was being honest when he said that there were no new tax cuts in the budget that was cast down by the opposition,
but he kinda glossed over the fact that there were cuts made for this year.

Ignatief was being honest about the cuts,

but he kinda glossed over the fact that he has already voted in favor of these cuts in previous parliment sessions.

which also makes him a decietful politician for him to suggest that he can stop or reverse the 2011 tax cut.

Instead Ignatief should have been clear that he would not be stopping a tax cut, rather he would have to increase taxes for 2012 and suffer the reaction from an economy when taxes are increased.

Also, another thing that ought to scare the hell out of us, is a politician promising to crank up taxes by more that a full percentage. The backlash could cost us jobs, when Canadians are enjoying an economic recovery





http://www.canadabusinesstax.com/corporate-income-tax-rates/

Corporate Income Tax Rates | Canada Business Tax | Canadian Business & Corporate Tax Rates

The corporate tax rate will decrease as follows:

• 21% before January 1, 2008
• 19.5% effective January 1, 2008
• 19% effective January 1, 2009
• 18% effective January 1, 2010
• 16.5% effective January 1, 2011
• 15% effective January 1, 2012

http://www.canadabusinesstax.com/corporate-income-tax-rates/

 

[Bar Sinister]

The bottom line is what they say, plan or pledge has very little to do with anything.

Dead on. Party philosophies are much more important than campaign promises. As Canadian voters have seen repeatedly once in power the government can conveniently claim that the situation has changed since the election, or that the party did not realize how badly the previous government had lied about economic conditions. Such excuses can easily be used to invalidate all election promises. However, party philosophy is rarely modified. Conservatives can always be counted on to act and think like Conservatives; Liberals will do the same; and members of the NDP can be counted on to stick to their basic ideological bent.

 

[Colpy]

Dead on. Party philosophies are much more important than campaign promises. As Canadian voters have seen repeatedly once in power the government can conveniently claim that the situation has changed since the election, or that the party did not realize how badly the previous government had lied about economic conditions. Such excuses can easily be used to invalidate all election promises. However, party philosophy is rarely modified. Conservatives can always be counted on to act and think like Conservatives; Liberals will do the same; and members of the NDP can be counted on to stick to their basic ideological bent.

Well, the Liberals don't have an ideology, besides stay in power....but essentially, you're right.

All the more reason not to vote for the NDP.

 

[petros]

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Corporate Income Tax Rates | Canada Business Tax | Canadian Business & Corporate Tax Rates



The corporate tax rate will decrease as follows:

• 21% before January 1, 2008
• 19.5% effective January 1, 2008
• 19% effective January 1, 2009
• 18% effective January 1, 2010
• 16.5% effective January 1, 2011
• 15% effective January 1, 2012

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By far one of the lowest corporate tax schemes on the planet. Name one small business that has been bailed out by Harper. Small businees out employ corporation by a long shot and there is nothing for the bread and butter of the economy. I have to pay taxes twice. Business taxes then whatever I pay myself. Needless to say I'm forced to lie on my forms and risk having armed thugs come with guns and take a way my home, business and farm formd so I can afford to give pay raises to my over taxed employees.

You can stuff your Harper bull**** right up your ass.
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[cranky]

If you equate small business and corporate tax structure as mutually exclusive then i have some water front property in arizona that iwant sell u.

Anyone with 690 can go to staples.ca an incorporate. Small businesses in canada certainly DO benefit from low tax rates

 

[petros]

You have no idea what it means to incorporate do you?

Check this out! Google

 

[cranky]

No u dont.

U think that small businesses are getting the shaft and creating all jobs, yet there are not many propritors out there employing anyone with signifcant slaries, if they are, they are a damn fool like u

 

[petros]

I'm a fool for running an independently owned business?

You really don't know do you?

 

[cranky]

If you are running it as a proprietor when you can incorporate for under 1k, you are either a fool or yuo havent built any real income yet

Anyway, back to my point, small business and corporate taxes are not mutually exclusive.....espe ially for the jemployee creators

 

[petros]

If you are the sole owner you still get nailed on your personal draws and you riske everything you own if something goes wrong. I am the company. My employees can't do my job for me if I get ill. I'm not about to put all my assets on the line as liabilities.

Only a ****ing moron would do that.

Those liabilties are the reason I won't incorporate.

 

[cranky]

Who should I get to sit on the board?

Lol sound like u need to see a consultant, you think this is a roadblock for u and every proprietor? It isnt.

U think a dentist runs all over town hiring board members for their practise? The regulations arent that strict,its actually so simple staples.ca can do it for you

Petro, think about it will you? You can stiill put all you paperwork into a shoebox if you like. For the most part,itchanges the way you are taxed, your business is still the same small business that its always been. I persoanlly reccomend that you go to you economic development office,they offer afternoon seminars to help you decide

 

[petros]

You have no clue do you?

 

[lone wolf]

Man.... Does that ever sound socialist!....


ETA: Sorry Petros.... I'm responding to the recruiting guy....

 

[cranky]

You have no clue do you?

That just doesnt cut it anymore you'll have to do better if you want me to believe you

 

[petros]

Go back a page and we'll talk about your little shoebox of liabilities that you don't seem to grasp.

 

[cranky]

Im listening. And?

 

[petros]

You'd risk your home and all your assets over a shoebox company?

 

[cranky]

Um no, and?

 

[petros]

That is what incorporating entails. So you are like me then and think it's moronic to risk everything you have?

 

[lone wolf]

Why am I thinking of one of those "co-operative ventures" that go broke and everyone who has invested is out the investment.....