A 9/11 Reality Check

Kreskin

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If that's what Saddam was told he shouldn't have been so gullible. In any event, he was given more than 6 months to back off and given a final deadline. He played roulette and lost.

GB did what he said he'd do. Unless he parked marines inside every Kurd district there wasn't much else to do. The no-fly zone was pretty air tight.
 

karrie

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Canadians still put on black ribbons and remember 14 dead women. We call their lost lives a 'massacre'. And you want to hold up the lives of 3000 and pretend they don't deserve their day of remembrance? The image burned in our minds, and you seem to try to pass it off as trivial?

If you want to make sure the 6 million jews get their time, well, they do, but you're free to add more of your time in if you like. If you want to make sure the Vietnamese lost get their time, you make sure to remember it. YOU remember what's important to you, and leave it to everyone else to remember what's important to them. But 8 mere years after the fiery images, don't expect everyone else to shrug it off with 'meh, there's been worse'.

This so easily could have been posted tomorrow, and still bore its point out.
 

JBeee

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"YOU remember what's important to you"....

Personally, I don`t choose which tragic world event to remember in any particular order nor how. When the anniversary arrives, I try to recall any new and relevalent information discovered on why, since the previous year and opine from there.

As for when I express my point of view ( or c/p a particular write up), I believe timing is everything with today`s (North American) society and our short memories.

We need to taste more of what we dish out, to get us up to par with the rest of the world.




Canadians still put on black ribbons and remember 14 dead women. We call their lost lives a 'massacre'. And you want to hold up the lives of 3000 and pretend they don't deserve their day of remembrance? The image burned in our minds, and you seem to try to pass it off as trivial?

If you want to make sure the 6 million jews get their time, well, they do, but you're free to add more of your time in if you like. If you want to make sure the Vietnamese lost get their time, you make sure to remember it. YOU remember what's important to you, and leave it to everyone else to remember what's important to them. But 8 mere years after the fiery images, don't expect everyone else to shrug it off with 'meh, there's been worse'.

This so easily could have been posted tomorrow, and still bore its point out.
 

MHz

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He stopped short of offing Saddam Hussein. He pretty much told the Kurds that he would, and he would protect them, then he backed off, and didn't finish the job.
Tell me about slant-drilling and the outcome of that investigation. For all I know you might be in the same leagues as Anna's squibs.
 

Ron in Regina

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Kreskin, according to conservatives, Bush Sr. should not have stopped after liberating Kuwait, he should have invaded Iraq and taken Saddam out. The fact that UN mission was only concerning Kuwait, he did not have UN mandate to invade Iraq means noting to Conservatives, they have not come across a war they did not like (except Kosovo, that was started by Clinton. Hatred for Clinton trumps their love for any war).

Anyway, so one theory is that Bush Jr. wanted to complete his daddy’s unfulfilled mission, that is why he invaded Iraq.


OK....According to which conservatives? Post a LINK.
 

TenPenny

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Tell me about slant-drilling and the outcome of that investigation. For all I know you might be in the same leagues as Anna's squibs.
Tell me about outside corners in drywall. For all I know, you might be in the same league as the Waton brothers.
 

Colpy

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OK....According to which conservatives? Post a LINK.

SJP: (Accordind to some Conservatives) Bush Sr. should not have stopped after liberating Kuwait, he should have invaded Iraq and taken Saddam out. The fact that UN mission was only concerning Kuwait, he did not have UN mandate to invade Iraq means nothing

According to THIS conservative..........

Would have saved the lives of 100,000 Shia murdered by Saddam after the First Gulf War.

Would have spared the lives of most of the people killed in the Second Gulf War, as Saddam's military power was completely crushed in Kuwait.

Would have saved billions of dollars spent to set up and execute the second war.

Would have avoided the disasterous decline in respect aster the WMD fiasco.
 

Risus

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[FONT=georgia, times new roman, times, serif]Surely two planes crashing into office buildings and another hitting the Pentagon doesn’t compare to the leveling of every major city in Japan with conventional bombing, capped off by the mass murder of hundreds of thousands more at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Speaking of eyes lost, mark the words of Hiroshima’s mayor two years ago: “That fateful summer, 8:15 AM. The roar of a B-29 breaks the morning calm. A parachute opens in the blue sky. Then suddenly, a flash, an enormous blast—silence—hell on Earth. The eyes of young girls watching the parachute were melted.”[/FONT]

[FONT=georgia, times new roman, times, serif]We assumed that the Japanese people would readily forgive us and, having been raised in the spirit of total obedience to their emperor, they accommodated our occupation quite well, even injecting industrial-grade silicon into their women’s breasts to satisfy the erotic appetites of our soldiers.[/FONT]



The devastation of the atomic bomb was great, but I'm afraid it blots out everything
else. If the war had continued as it was, it would have gone on for many more
months or years, and throughout mainland japan, there would have been hundreds
of thousands more deaths on both sides, and the japanese, although they were given
opportunities to surrender would 'do no such thing, so on they went.
The japanese are also responsible for the bomb, as they could have prevented it
as well, but the blind pride and stubborness continued, as it was 'they' who started
the war, and would not admit when defeated, they would have seen their entire
army and civillian population die, without blinking an eyelash before surrendering.
The 'bomb' did that in 'very' short order, and saved many 'allie' lives, but could
have been prevented BY THE JAPANESE LEADERSHIP.

And yet the yanks complain if anyone else has weapons of mass distruction. What a bunch of hypocrites.
 

Kreskin

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GB1 didn't continue Gulf War 1 for the same reasons GB2 shouldn't have started GW2. Quagmires costs too much money and too many lives.
 

talloola

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And yet the yanks complain if anyone else has weapons of mass distruction. What a bunch of hypocrites.
Yeah, that is the sticky point for sure. The Atom bomb was the first attempt
at nuclear attack, and others were trying to get their too.
That event certainly changed the world forever.
Lots of countries have weapons of mass destruction now, it has definitely
escalated to a very dangerous level. It isn't just the u.s. who have that attitude,
it is europe, austrailia and other democratic countries.
I remember when India developed their own nuclear weapons, then Pakistan,
because if one of them had the technology the other had to have it, as they
are like two children throwing weapons over the fence back and forth.
The Soviet Union had lots of them, now everyone wonders who has pirated
many of them to other parts of the world, no one really knows.
The u.s. are not alone with the fear of too many nuclear weapons spreading
around the world, so one cannot really accuse only them of pointing their
finger at others, they are just one of many.
With Obama in power in the u.s. the attitude has changed for the better, and
the u.s. should travel on a smoother course for awhile, and gain back respect
around the world, it can be seen allready.
We also must not get stuck back in that bush era, but move on and strive for
better days ahead.
 

Cliffy

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What boggles my mind is that people are arguing over whether 91 was or was not an inside job. It scoots around the real issue - that the US used it as a reason to go on a killing rampage. I don't blame GWB, he is an idiot. Cheney and his cabal on the other hand are criminals and should be charged with at least profiteering in crimes against humanity.