9/11 and greedy lawyers!

[lone wolf]

How would you be living higher off the hog? Not saying something, lw?

I am a writer. They would be paying a handsome price to buy my silence (if they didn't just off me, I guess) :lol:

 

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I am a writer. They would be paying a handsome price to buy my silence (if they didn't just off me, I guess) :lol:

I am a writer too. Yet it can be hazardous to your health!

 

[dancing-loon]

Nooo.... 9/11 happened. It would be awful stupid to deny it. The hijackers were real (falsely documented and not the flight school wash-outs portrayed) That part WAS planned.

Where the cover-up comes in is in the inevitable finger-pointing and story-making people who've fallen asleep on guard duty resort to in order to avoid reprimand. When they finally wised up and flamed that last jet at Shanksville, the delay made it obvious the whole system had grown too confident, fat and lazy. That's where the story-making machine went into gear. America needed heroes - to save face.

There certainly are people at fault - but it's not so much at the big planned out conspiracy level on the American side as it was stupidity combined with a collossal cluster f**ked reaction. The Cold War was over. America thought it was bulletproof. It wasn't.

Hi, Wolf;
I got some material from educated and known people. I'm sure you have read the same article. What I wonder is how you can be so sure it was not an inside job!

Here is a statement from Dr. Robert M. Bowman, head of advanced space programs for the Department of Defense:

Many people are convinced that George W. Bush knew what was going to happen and purposely allowed it to happen, so he and his neo-conservative buddies could have the “new Pearl Harbor” they needed to justify their wars against Afghanistan and Iraq. Others go further. They are absolutely sure Cheney and company actually planned and carried out the attack

If Bush knew about it, and didn't stop it, then he was in on it! He sanctioned it! Hence an inside job.

Here is another person of influence, Michael Meacher, UK Minister of Environment.

A blueprint for the creation of a global Pax Americana was drawn up for Dick Cheney (now vice-president), Donald Rumsfeld (defence secretary), Paul Wolfowitz (Rumsfeld's deputy), Jeb Bush (George Bush's younger brother) and Lewis Libby (Cheney's chief of staff). The document, entitled Rebuilding America's Defences, was written in September 2000 by the neoconservative think tank

The information provided by European intelligence services prior to 9/11 was so extensive that it is no longer possible for either the CIA or FBI to assert a defence of incompetence.

The conclusion of all this analysis must surely be that the "global war on terrorism" has the hallmarks of a political myth propagated to pave the way for a wholly different agenda - the US goal of world hegemony, built around securing by force command over the oil supplies required to drive the whole project.

Do you have any doubt, Wolf, that it is not so? Do you still think America was caught unawares?

Now, here is a guy who shares your view: U.S. Senator Mark Dayton. He states:

...that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) have covered up "catastrophic failures" that left the nation vulnerable during the Sept. 11 hijackings. "For almost three years now, NORAD officials and FAA officials have been able to hide their critical failures that left this country defenseless during two of the worst hours in our history,"

He further says:

"NORAD officials lied to the American people, they lied to Congress and they lied to your 9/11 commission to create a false impression of competence, communication and protection of the American people."

I guess in America one can get away with lies!
So, if this version is the truth, then all that is needed is to prove the towers were not brought down by dynamite.
What is your take on that?

http://www.wanttoknow.info/050908insidejob911

 

[EagleSmack]

Hi, Wolf;
I got some material from educated and known people. I'm sure you have read the same article. What I wonder is how you can be so sure it was not an inside job!

Here is a statement from Dr. Robert M. Bowman, head of advanced space programs for the Department of Defense: If Bush knew about it, and didn't stop it, then he was in on it! He sanctioned it! Hence an inside job.

Here is another person of influence, Michael Meacher, UK Minister of Environment.Do you have any doubt, Wolf, that it is not so? Do you still think America was caught unawares?

Now, here is a guy who shares your view: U.S. Senator Mark Dayton. He states:
He further says: I guess in America one can get away with lies!
So, if this version is the truth, then all that is needed is to prove the towers were not brought down by dynamite.
What is your take on that?

http://www.wanttoknow.info/050908insidejob911

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[dancing-loon]

This message was brought to you by the one who says the Taliban were such sweet cute little boys holding up peace signs with their fingers.

:lol::lol::lol:
I remember!! It looked like a peace sign to me!!

 

[lone wolf]

Hi, Wolf;
I got some material from educated and known people. I'm sure you have read the same article. What I wonder is how you can be so sure it was not an inside job!

Nothing is 100%. I do know human nature and humans tend to shoot off their mouths - like Rumsfield's little slip about Pennsylvania and shot down. Do we call screw-ups, negligence and incompetence at several levels an inside job or way too much confidence that it couldn't happen?

Here is a statement from Dr. Robert M. Bowman, head of advanced space programs for the Department of Defense: If Bush knew about it, and didn't stop it, then he was in on it! He sanctioned it! Hence an inside job.

IF Bush knew about it....

Here is another person of influence, Michael Meacher, UK Minister of Environment.Do you have any doubt, Wolf, that it is not so? Do you still think America was caught unawares?

I've never said America wasn't aware. There were warnings and they were all dismissed. Like I said ... the Cold war was over and America thought it was bulletproof.

Now, here is a guy who shares your view: U.S. Senator Mark Dayton. He states:
He further says: I guess in America one can get away with lies!
So, if this version is the truth, then all that is needed is to prove the towers were not brought down by dynamite.
What is your take on that?

Yeah ... if it can't be proven, one can easily get away with lies. That's the failing point of Common Law.

Somewhere in here are three different times where I have described the tube construction of WTC as opposed to conventional column-and-beam framework. They were designed to take the all-over loads of hurricane winds and earthquake. They weren't designed for the high speed pointal impact of a heavily loaded passenger jet. The collision would have been like ringing a bell - setting off torsional effects and shearing forces at several levels. Damaged connections acting in conjunction with heat softening steel members would have caused failure to begin.

Whether there was a failsafe system included in the building's construction is not known to me, nor would it be known to anyone who posts in this forum. I haven't dismissed it ... but I can't prove it either.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/050908insidejob911

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42112

 

[typingrandomstuff]

American government acts like the anti-Russian government. American government uses Russia's skills to fight enemies such as the Russians. An example is the Cold War.

 

[typingrandomstuff]

Please carefully study the Cold War.

 

[typingrandomstuff]

I will explain the Cold War.

Purposes of the Cold War:
to keep politicians busy so that the politicians will not destroy the universes
to win more votes, to show off political powers
to advance series of universes, to keep voodoo people critics and complainers quiet
to make sure everyone understand they have to build a better world
to make sure the politicians would not corrupt
to make sure everything is appropriate according to the humans' definition of appropriate
to help people like the lute-energizer group and living off grid people

Methods:
*Extreme effort of building, analysis, and no talking.
*Both sides used some voodoo, tricks, and bribery,
*Chooses intermediate workers to elongate the bluffing moments

Result:
Achieved except politician's reputation. The politician doesn't contain great powers.

 

[typingrandomstuff]

Proof is useless without a role like the punisher.

 

[dancing-loon]

Somewhere in here are three different times where I have described the tube construction of WTC as opposed to conventional column-and-beam framework. They were designed to take the all-over loads of hurricane winds and earthquake. They weren't designed for the high speed pointal impact of a heavily loaded passenger jet. The collision would have been like ringing a bell - setting off torsional effects and shearing forces at several levels. Damaged connections acting in conjunction with heat softening steel members would have caused failure to begin.

Whether there was a failsafe system included in the building's construction is not known to me, nor would it be known to anyone who posts in this forum. I haven't dismissed it ... but I can't prove it either.

Hi, Wolf, and thanks for the links about Rumsfeld telling the world the Pennsylvania plane was shot down. That's a piece of the truth I didn't know about.

I like and respect Willie Nelson, and here is what he says about the towers:

Straight talking American icon Willie Nelson today told a national radio show that he thought the twin towers were imploded like condemned Las Vegas casino buildings, as the country music superstar voiced his doubts about the official 9/11 story.
Agreeing with host Alex Jones that he questioned the official story, Nelson elaborated, "I saw those towers fall and I’ve seen an implosion in Las Vegas - there’s too much similarities between the two, and I saw a building fall that didn’t get hit by nothing," added Nelson, referring to WTC Building 7 which collapsed in the late afternoon of September 11.
"How naive are we - what do they think we’ll go for?," asked Nelson, pointing out that his doubts began on the very day of 9/11.
"I saw one fall and it was just so symmetrical, I said wait a minute I just saw that last week at the casino in Las Vegas and you see these implosions all the time and the next one fell and I said hell there’s another one - and they’re trying to tell me that an airplane did it and I can’t go along with that," said Nelson.
The former Highwayman, fresh from his appearance at this past weekend’s superbowl, questioned why Afghanistan became an immediate target in the aftermath of 9/11 when the official story posited that mostly Saudi Arabians were responsible for the attack.
"When I get hit I like to look around and see who did it before I start swinging at everybody in the room and that’s kind of what we were doing," said Nelson, "We get hit over here and then next thing you know we’re jumping on everybody in the town - so (if) we got hit from Saudi Arabia, I think we’ve got some questions that need to be answered from those folks," said Nelson.
In light of his viewpoint, Nelson said that recent revelations concerning the impartiality of the 9/11 Commission and its close links with the White House did not surprise him.
"What does it take for us to realize we’re having the wool pulled over our eyes one more time?" he concluded.

http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1884
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Wolf, not that I want to discredit your considerations about the structure of the towers, but I have to say I give Willie's logic some credit as well.

Now, believing what we first talked about, namely the US government ignoring all warnings, because they were overconfident nothing could happen to them, why did they have plans for the Afghan and Iraq war already drawn up before 9/11 happened?

Since the US to this day still hasn't captured Osama, the mastermind of 9/11, it stands to reason he is not the culprit they are after. Who then could be the initiator?

 

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Hi, Wolf, and thanks for the links about Rumsfeld telling the world the Pennsylvania plane was shot down. That's a piece of the truth I didn't know about.

I like and respect Willie Nelson, and here is what he says about the towers:http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1884
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Wolf, not that I want to discredit your considerations about the structure of the towers, but I have to say I give Willie's logic some credit as well.

Now, believing what we first talked about, namely the US government ignoring all warnings, because they were overconfident nothing could happen to them, why did they have plans for the Afghan and Iraq war already drawn up before 9/11 happened?

Since the US to this day still hasn't captured Osama, the mastermind of 9/11, it stands to reason he is not the culprit they are after. Who then could be the initiator?

Try Georgie Busharoo & Rudy Giuliani.....good starting point.
For economic reasons concerning the Towers and the need for them to be demolished because they were insulated with asbestos.