8 lost nukes.

DurkaDurka

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Pretty scary to think that there has been this many incidents of lost nukes since the 1940's.

http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/10031/1/

During the Cold War the United States military misplaced at least eight nuclear weapons permanently. These are the stories of what the Department of Defense calls “broken arrows” - America’s stray nukes, with a combined explosive force 2,200 times the Hiroshima bomb.

If you don’t have enough to make you lose sleep at night, read on.
STRAY #1: Into the Pacific

February 13, 1950. An American B-36 bomber en route from Alaska to Texas during a training exercise lost power in three engines and began losing altitude. To lighten the aircraft the crew jettisoned its cargo, a 30-kiloton Mark 4 (Fat Man) nuclear bomb, into the Pacific Ocean. The conventional explosives detonated on impact, producing a flash and a shockwave. The bomb’s uranium components were lost and never recovered. According to the USAF, the plutonium core wasn’t present.
STRAY #2&3: Into Thin Air

March 10, 1956. A B-47 carrying two nuclear weapon cores from MacDill Air Force Base in Florida to an overseas airbase disappeared during a scheduled air-to-air refueling over the Mediterranean Sea. After becoming lost in a thick cloud bank at 14,500 feet, the plane was never heard from again and its wreckage, including the nuclear cores, was never found. Although the weapon type remains undisclosed, Mark 15 thermonuclear bombs (commonly carried by B-47s) would have had a combined yield of 3.4 megatons.
STRAYS #4&5: Somewhere in a North Carolina Swamp

January 24, 1961. A B-52 carrying two 24-megaton nuclear bombs crashed while taking off from an airbase in Goldsboro, North Carolina. One of the weapons sank in swampy farmland, and its uranium core was never found despite intensive search efforts to a depth of 50 feet. To ensure no one else could recover the weapon, the USAF bought a permanent easement requiring government permission to dig on the land.
STRAY #6: The Incident in Japan

December 5, 1965. An A-4E Skyhawk attack aircraft carrying a 1-megaton thermonuclear weapon (hydrogen bomb) rolled off the deck of the U.S.S. Ticonderoga and fell into the Pacific Ocean. The plane and weapon sank in 16,000 feet of water and were never found. 15 years later the U.S. Navy finally admitted that the accident had taken place, claiming it happened 500 miles from land the in relative safety of the high seas. This turned out to be not true; it actually happened about 80 miles off Japan’s Ryuku island chain, as the aircraft carrier was sailing to Yokosuka, Japan after a bombing mission over Vietnam.
These revelations caused a political uproar in Japan, which prohibits the United States from bringing nuclear weapons into its territory.

STRAYS #7&8: 250 kilotons of explosive power

Spring, 1968. While returning to home base in Norfolk, Virginia, the U.S.S. Scorpion, a nuclear attack submarine, mysteriously sank about 400 miles to the southwest of the Azores islands. In addition to the tragic loss of all 99 crewmembers, the Scorpion was carrying two unspecified nuclear weapons – either anti-submarine missiles or torpedoes that were tipped with nuclear warheads. These could yield up to 250 kilotons explosive power (depending which kind of weapon was used).
 

Tonington

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The fall of the Soviets must have made for a flea market. I've heard hundreds. Also the Soviet explosive yields were higher I think, cause their precision in missile technology sucked. Scary shyte ehh? Where the hell are they though?

Edit: Maybe they made suitcase nukes out of them?
 

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I watched a documentary on #1 not so long ago. Seems there is some dispute about it being dropped in the ocean. They found the plane somewhere in northern BC (I forget the exact location) but the US went in and pretty much blew it to bits.
 

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I worked with these weapons and a lost nuke was never called a Broken Arrow. A Broken Arrow was when a nuke was dropped and damaged causing a release of radiation. A Bent Spear was when a nuke was dropped but no apparent damage. I think the term "Broken Arrow" when used in this way was derived from the movie "Broken Arrow" when THEY said that Broken Arrow was the term for a missing nuke. Once again Hollywood has trumped the Defense Department.

As far as the terminology for a missing nuke is...well I don't know. We were charged to protect them and losing one just was not in our manual. I think our natural reaction would have been in the event of losing one would have been...

"Holy %$#@! Weren't there 5 of these here a minute ago!"
Or
"Ok Marines...empty your cargo pockets."
Or
"Hey Leatherneck...weren't you supposed to be watching the pen?" (pen being the term for temporary placing of the bombs...i.e 'pig pen')
"No...I thought you were?"

Perhaps we here in CanCon can come up with our own term for a missing nuke.
I will start...how about

Vanishing Mushroom
 

lone wolf

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I worked with these weapons and a lost nuke was never called a Broken Arrow. A Broken Arrow was when a nuke was dropped and damaged causing a release of radiation. A Bent Spear was when a nuke was dropped but no apparent damage. I think the term "Broken Arrow" when used in this way was derived from the movie "Broken Arrow" when THEY said that Broken Arrow was the term for a missing nuke. Once again Hollywood has trumped the Defense Department.

As far as the terminology for a missing nuke is...well I don't know. We were charged to protect them and losing one just was not in our manual. I think our natural reaction would have been in the event of losing one would have been...

"Holy %$#@! Weren't there 5 of these here a minute ago!"
Or
"Ok Marines...empty your cargo pockets."
Or
"Hey Leatherneck...weren't you supposed to be watching the pen?" (pen being the term for temporary placing of the bombs...i.e 'pig pen')
"No...I thought you were?"

Perhaps we here in CanCon can come up with our own term for a missing nuke.
I will start...how about

Vanishing Mushroom

How about a good multilingual phrase ... like 'uh-oh!'

Woof!
 

EagleSmack

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I just found out what the correct term of a missing nuke is and it made me laugh. I can see why Hollywood went with "Broken Arrow".

It's called "Empty Quiver" LMAO :lol:

John Travolta and Cristian Slater starring in the new movie "Empty Quiver"

I still would like to see what we can come up with as I think we can do better.
 

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None of this surprises me. When I was in the active military we actually moved nuke weapons over the highways in late night/early morning scenarios between bases and coastal seaports without any fanfare or any notice to the population either. I do know of one event where the transport convoy was held up due to a big highway traffic accident for at least two hours and arrived at the destination after 8:00 AM and passing several grammar schools on the travel route. While it may not be as loose or undocumented as it was I'll bet more could be done with security of these destructive devices.
 

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Wonder how many nukes have gone missing from those evil nations the U.S. doesn't think should have nuclear bombs?

It's a comfort to know that the dirty-bombs that strike fear into the hearts of Homeland Security Morons...might well get fashioned from the keepers of nuclear moral authority who of course would never lose one....
 

EagleSmack

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Wonder how many nukes have gone missing from those evil nations the U.S. doesn't think should have nuclear bombs?

It's a comfort to know that the dirty-bombs that strike fear into the hearts of Homeland Security Morons...might well get fashioned from the keepers of nuclear moral authority who of course would never lose one....

Leave it to Mickey to ruin all our fun with tales of perpetual woe. Do you think Al Queda will fund deep sea exploration to find objects the size of a soccer ball (nuclear core) at most, or 8'x2' bombs.
 

MikeyDB

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Eaglesmack..

Just trying to be helpful... Suppose anthrax got mailed to a government building and that anthrax had the same biological signature as anthrax produced (weaponized) by the U.S. military...

Nah!

Couldn't happen right!?
 

MikeyDB

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No there's no need for an invaision of Canda for our water. If anything is true of America, it's that you'll steal whatever you want...with or without war. It's the American way!

The danger is of course that you'll kill us all with your magnificent stupidity long before more level-headed contingencies and strategies could be planned...

"The trail of genetic evidence would have led directly back to a secret but officially-sponsored US government biowarfare program that was illegal and criminal" , Boyle said. However, impartial scientists were not allowed to perform genetic reconstruction of the anthrax found in letters mailed to Senators Daschle (D-S.D.) and Patrick Leahy, (D -Vt.) in late 2001.”

http://infowars.net/articles/december2006/131206Anthrax.htm

Damn terrorists disguised as American Military Personnel…..

Well nothing new in that I suppose…
 

EagleSmack

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Mikey... YOU RUINED OUR FUN.

This started out as an interesting thread, an interesting topic...a bit of humor and THEN....

Anthax, US Terrorist, US Conspiracy, BUSH, Cheney, Rumsfield, THEIVES, Crooks...US Bad...more conspiracy and pirate killing US Soldiers...

Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah

Blah
 

EagleSmack

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Eaglesmack

No there's no need for an invaision of Canda for our water. If anything is true of America, it's that you'll steal whatever you want...with or without war. It's the American way!

The danger is of course that you'll kill us all with your magnificent stupidity long before more level-headed contingencies and strategies could be planned...

"The trail of genetic evidence would have led directly back to a secret but officially-sponsored US government biowarfare program that was illegal and criminal" , Boyle said. However, impartial scientists were not allowed to perform genetic reconstruction of the anthrax found in letters mailed to Senators Daschle (D-S.D.) and Patrick Leahy, (D -Vt.) in late 2001.”

http://infowars.net/articles/december2006/131206Anthrax.htm

Damn terrorists disguised as American Military Personnel…..

Well nothing new in that I suppose…

Wrong thread but whatever...

Inforwars...C'mon...how could you post that as being a credible source. You may as well post the Weekly World News
 

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There was a nuclear submarine called "Thresher" that was the lead ship of it's class that apparently imploded during tests in 1959, killing all on board. I always wondered if it had nukes on board, but as far as I can tell it didn't. Probably would have been dumb to put nuclear weapons on a new sub during testing. That sub had a number of problems in early testing but it was still a shock to most when it was lost.
 

EagleSmack

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When you are operating during "work ups" the vessels are not armed. During these shakedown cruises they tried to work out the kinks and see what breaks. When ships are deployed overseas however they are loaded to the teeth. I think the Thresher would have made the list as the Scorpion did. That is JMO.