"3rd Party" booted out of Attawapiskat
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You hear voices in your head? They can treat that ya know.I heard you're in the front lines to promote another vaccine buddy.
No. No vaccine. If you were paying attention to the situation you'd know MRSA is rampant in Attawapiskat.
Harper vows 'action' on Attawapiskat - Politics - CBC News
Harper vows 'action' on Attawapiskat - Politics - CBC News
And how does the 325 Million agreement with DeBeers get paid out and where is it going?
Every community has an arena and thats good,theres not much to do with no roads anywhere and the arena is a huge social aspect of the town,they hold more then hockey games in them,they are used year round for all kinds of events and is the only place big enough to get the whole community in.They take their team sports very seriously,many times I would be waiting for a flight out of Baker lake and hundreds of people would trek out to the airport to welcome back kids coming from a basketball or hockey tournament in Arviat or some other community.The youth suicide rate in the north is very high so haveing something for them to do is money well spent.
Then you have what I used to call the "whitey" tax.When you ship goods north and they have to make numerous stops along the way theres a very good chance someone will have their hands in those goods at every airport.
If it's going to a mining camp that has lots of cash there will be more hands in the goods,it's all proportional.This is one of the reasons we allways tried to get our supplies from Yellowknife instead of Winnipeg because it flew straight from YK with no stops so you allways got your order.When I flew up from Winnipeg I made stops at 5 airports and you were very lucky if all your bags made it and even luckier if someone didnt go through it and steal your smokes.
I found lots of whites arent trusted by the natives up there,some have the mindset that they got fu**ed by us and any freebie they can get they take.Thats the reality of the north and you learn to just accept and deal with it,want 6 of something? Order 12 and you may get 6.Nothing moves fast in the north,what takes a day here in the world takes a week or more up there.
So when they finally show with an audit how many fingers are in the pot it wont surprise me if it lots!
I worked with lots of natives the last 30 years but only since I went to the arctic and lived and worked with some Innuit did I start to understand how different they are.
Most dont want big houses or status symbols,family is everything,they hunt and fish extensively and just survive in a place where most of us cant even comprehend.North of Hudsons bay it starts snowing end of september and doesnt melt untill june,they have a 3 month summer and winter is about the cruelest thing you would ever see.
So I agree theres corruption and graft in the north that needs to be fixed but it wont happen overnight as its been going on for years and is now well ingrained there.
We used to call our Innuit expediter in the eastern Arctic the Don of the north or the arctic mafia.
He exploited the whitey tax everytime you ordered something but he had contacts and could make things happen.
The cost of doing bussiness in the north,something a lot of folks dont understand.
Wheels have to be greased you know.
I notice the band council office looks like it's in good shape, too.
Seems to be that it's only the houses that are crap.
And apparently that's our fault.
Seems to be that it's only the houses that are crap.
And apparently that's our fault.
mentalfloss, I understand what you're trying to get accross.
But as it stands right now, you have two parties pointing fingers at each other.
In the court of public opinion, this just makes both sides look bad.
The way you see it, not that your bias doesn't have much to do with it, the Harper gov't is at fault.
Others, will see this as the Band's fault.
Somewhere in the middle, we actually have the truth.
An objective third party audit, would simply clear up where the issues are.
Blocking them, was stupid. They could have vindicated the community, publicly.
But as it stands right now, you have two parties pointing fingers at each other.
In the court of public opinion, this just makes both sides look bad.
The way you see it, not that your bias doesn't have much to do with it, the Harper gov't is at fault.
Others, will see this as the Band's fault.
Somewhere in the middle, we actually have the truth.
An objective third party audit, would simply clear up where the issues are.
Blocking them, was stupid. They could have vindicated the community, publicly.
You can look at some of my albums on here and see that lots of northern communities are like that,If I had a 6 month winter of darkness and only 3 months of summer you can be damn sure I would be out fishing or hunting in those 3 months,not painting the crib.
I met lots of good Innuit peeps in my time and they are lifelong friends now,the folks that are the most corrupt are the ones trying to push the whitey ways on the rest of the town.The ones in true poverty are the ones still trying to live their lifestyle which is nothing like here in the world,and I call the south the world because it is.When I first flew north it was like going back 50 years,they just got cel phones in Rankin inlet 2 years ago.
The band council office prolly had a paper trail so it got built to code.
Now they are offering to move the community,thats got to bring back some bad memories for the elders!!!!!!
What did they do with the millions of dollars that De Beers has poured into the community - that 'funding' doesn't appear in any of the audits I've read.
That being the case, if you don't bother doing anything to maintain your house, why is it my fking problem when it falls apart?
I think the thing peeps should be focusing on right now is just getting these folks into somewhere to live through the winter.
Enough with the blame game'
I learned living in that country for years that you just get it done,it's pure survival and I could make a couple phone calls and have carpenters and outlook sending tents and hercs sending supplies so whats the problem?
I dont even have a grade 12 yet I can still run and resupply a camp 60 miles from the arctic circle through winter and have,if I can do it why cant the government?
I have lots of contacts from the north,some of the best in the world and as big as Canada's north is it's actually small when it comes to people,Petros and others that have worked up there know how important it is to have contacts.
I could make one phone call and have 2 herc c 130's coming steady with supplies if the money was there and I honestly think first air would give a good rate as it's a humanitarian effort.
Harper and most ignore the north,The bloody rangers get outfitted with ww2 303 british rifles to defend our sovereignity and we relocated them so they would do just that.
Sorry for the rant folks but this just pisses me off,lets just do something to fix the problem,anyone working for the government get ahold of me and I'll get er done,right now and **** will start coming up tommorow.I have numbers for guys in Vancouver and Winnipeg that live for the challenge of supplying the north.
A house in the north is a shelter,nothing else,unlike us in the world they dont need a big house as a status symbol.
Enough with the blame game'
I learned living in that country for years that you just get it done,it's pure survival and I could make a couple phone calls and have carpenters and outlook sending tents and hercs sending supplies so whats the problem?
I dont even have a grade 12 yet I can still run and resupply a camp 60 miles from the arctic circle through winter and have,if I can do it why cant the government?
I have lots of contacts from the north,some of the best in the world and as big as Canada's north is it's actually small when it comes to people,Petros and others that have worked up there know how important it is to have contacts.
I could make one phone call and have 2 herc c 130's coming steady with supplies if the money was there and I honestly think first air would give a good rate as it's a humanitarian effort.
Harper and most ignore the north,The bloody rangers get outfitted with ww2 303 british rifles to defend our sovereignity and we relocated them so they would do just that.
Sorry for the rant folks but this just pisses me off,lets just do something to fix the problem,anyone working for the government get ahold of me and I'll get er done,right now and **** will start coming up tommorow.I have numbers for guys in Vancouver and Winnipeg that live for the challenge of supplying the north.
You do realize lots of natives were relocated up north to protect our country right?
A house in the north is a shelter,nothing else,unlike us in the world they dont need a big house as a status symbol.
If you are just renting an apartment and there is a leaky faucet do you fix it or call the landlord? or if the heat goes off?....you call the landlord
In most reserves (I understand that a few on Vancouver Island are different) the natives don't own their house, If one decides to move to the city, he moves with the clothes on his back...He can't sell that house...It is owned by the Band council....so where is the incentive to fix anything or paint, or even fix a window pane when it is much easier to just slap some plywood on it.
Not may white folks would do different with a rental property.
In most northern communities they are on a waiting list for years for even an apartment,and the rent you pay is dictated by how much money you make,so if you have a job at the mine making maybe $8000 a month your rent will be very high..
We moved them up there,its time to do our due diligence and make things right.
That doesn't absolve them of personal responsibility and accountability.
Even you acknowledge wooden structures can last up to 30 years. There's no excuse (Barring fire, or natural disaster) to need a new house every 5 to 8 years.
That's beyond ridiculous.
It certainly wasn't well thought out, Bear.
"Spence added that it would take six months for Marion to get a grasp on the community's financial situation."
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