2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

Tecumsehsbones

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Nobody is perfect and that situation is entirely plausible (especially in America).
He was telling a convenient and politically safe lie.

I know. Me saying that isn't going to get through the wall of delusion you've built around yourself, but I was always a sucker for a lost cause.
 

mentalfloss

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You have no evidence of that, but even if he did, so what?

Once and a while you are afforded it if the greater good is necessary.
 

mentalfloss

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Donald Trump's poll numbers are so bad his supporters are making up new ones - Vox

In the face of all this bad news, some Trump supporters have taken it upon themselves to, essentially, make up poll numbers that look favorable for Trump. This is Long Room, the website dedicated to changing poll numbers so they’re “unbiased”:

These poll numbers are total bull****. The website’s methodology page claims that the tracker incorporates state data to accurately reflect the demographics of voters. But it seems that, in reality, if a pollster consistently gets results that favor Clinton, it’s deemed more “biased” — and Long Room changes the number further in Trump’s direction.

Of course, this misses the possibility that the great majority of polls aren’t biased at all and Clinton really is far ahead of Trump in the election.

Still, Trump supporters — especially at r/The_Donald on Reddit — are promoting this site to give themselves a bit of hope.
 

EagleSmack

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Tecumsehsbones

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You have no evidence of that, but even if he did, so what?

Once and a while you are afforded it if the greater good is necessary.
So you're saying presidents and other powerful people should be honest and truthful except when they decide the "greater good" requires them to lie and betray?
 

Locutus

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Americans have to choose between having a "bombastic" POTUS or a "corrupt" one.

anyway...

 

mentalfloss

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For Donald Trump, this was more than a terrible week. It was a turning point

Trump has demolished his campaign, his brand and his party. He has squandered his vice-presidential pick and his convention, and several battleground states along with them. He picked several fights he could not win, and showed no sign of learning from his own failure.

Of course, these aren’t the closing weeks of the 2016 campaign. Trump could yet turn around his national polling deficit of up to 14 points. He could flip the polls in Florida (down four), Michigan (down nine), Pennsylvania (down 13) and New Hampshire (down 15). He could turn Georgia and Utah back into reliably Republican states again, instead of being dead-heat states.

But Trump only has one shot left to do that: the TV debates that start in another seven weeks. At the same time, history suggests that post-convention polling is remarkably stable stretching all the way into the final days of an election.

It’s going to be a long, hot summer for the orange one.