2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

pgs

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You know I'm not a fan of Trump. I think he could be, if congress allowed, a dangerous person. Could be. There's always the chance for positive growth. But Hillary is a sociopatic liar. Those people she allowed to die, I don't think she gives a damn. Now as much as I have been a fan of female empowerment and would be the first to cheer on our first Lady President,,, not her. I simply do not trust the woman.
She is simply despicable in my mind .

Didn't anyone ever tell you about Sarah Palin?



What about her ? That you can actually really see Russia from parts of Alaska ?



Finally a good picture of the Donald.
Really cute meme . You must spend a lot of time finding these gems .
 

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Since Don will be doing duties that the VP usually takes care of might I suggest this one as running as an independent with the understanding she cannot become Prez as she was not born in America. Have it so his son inherits the position, you know. like any good dictatorship.
 

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She is simply despicable in my mind .


Too bad Sarah wasn't convinced to join the Democrats! She'd be an awesome President and Trump might find himself in a REAL battle. Yep, what you see is what you get with Sarah (and she'd likely be available to do a little Moose butcherin' on weekends to top up her income).
 
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JLM

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Not a fan of Sarah either. I like Jeanine Pirro. Erin Brockovich. Brookley Born. Judge Judy just to name some.


Three you've listed look good to me. I'm not familiar with Brookley Born. Judy may be getting a little long in the tooth, but she's still 4 times as sharp as Hillary. (She told one defendant several years ago.............."if you live to be 600 you won't be as smart as me") - Lots of moxie that woman.

That you can actually really see Russia from parts of Alaska ?



That's not really difficult to believe seeing how they both share the same border! :) :)

She is simply despicable in my mind .


And THAT is when she is on her best behaviour! :)
 

JLM

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I'm guessing that after today people will be a bit more concerned about his tax returns.

Trump tax return shows disparity in system

And this is only for 1995. What the hell else is the Dumpster hiding?


At risk of repeating myself, it astounds me how so many people (idiots) really think Trump pays no income tax when in actuality he pays more than 99% of the population. He employs and pays 22,000 - 34,000 people depending on who you ask and the vast majority of these employees pay income tax that comes directly out of Trump's pocket. I imagine the I.R.S. knows which side their bread is butter on and hence are not going to make a big issue over Trump. Smarten up, People!
 

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At risk of repeating myself, it astounds me how so many people (idiots) really think Trump pays no income tax when in actuality he pays more than 99% of the population. He employs and pays 22,000 - 34,000 people depending on who you ask and the vast majority of these employees pay income tax that comes directly out of Trump's pocket. I imagine the I.R.S. knows which side their bread is butter on and hence are not going to make a big issue over Trump. Smarten up, People!



'Trump' doesn't pay the income tax, his employees do.


Your reasoning is ridiculous. By that rationale, the government pays all income tax, since all money comes from the Fed anyway.
 

JLM

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'Trump' doesn't pay the income tax, his employees do.


Your reasoning is ridiculous. By that rationale, the government pays all income tax, since all money comes from the Fed anyway.


O.K. we'll go with your reasoning and remove Trump from the picture and then check the Gov't coffers! It's not rocket science- it's just fortunate for the country that there are people willing to take risks and invest in stuff like employment opportunities. Maybe you better do some research before spouting off! :)
 

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At risk of repeating myself, it astounds me how so many people (idiots) really think Trump pays no income tax when in actuality he pays more than 99% of the population. He employs and pays 22,000 - 34,000 people depending on who you ask and the vast majority of these employees pay income tax that comes directly out of Trump's pocket. I imagine the I.R.S. knows which side their bread is butter on and hence are not going to make a big issue over Trump. Smarten up, People!



I repeat myself too; but it doesn't matter because people don't listen to reason.
Most people don't understand how big business works. I don't understand it very well either and I don't mind admitting it. But see all the people thinking they know all about it and making fools of themselves.
It is ludicrous to compare the tax returns of the average person to that of a big business. There is no comparison regarding sources of income and legal deductions.
Why can't people understand that the tax code, set up by the government is set up to benefit the wealthy? They expect big business owners to say, 'Oh, I could claim all these expenses and pay no taxes but that wouldn't be right so I'll not claim them and pay". What kind of a businessman would do that? If he did he wouldn't be in business very long and there would be thousands of people out of work.
Trump had no part in writing the tax code. That was done by the politicians. Furthermore, Clinton/Obama allowed it to continue unchanged for their terms in power and now she's blaming a businessman for taking advantage of it. How dumb is that? How dumb is it to NOT understand that?


Neither can I get the so-called fact that Trump doesn't pay his employees. Jeez! If you worked for someone for one week and he didn't pay you, would you go on working for another week? I wouldn't.


Trump' building projects get completed AHEAD of schedule. That happens when the builders get a bonus for being ahead of schedule.
 

TenPenny

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I repeat myself too; but it doesn't matter because people don't listen to reason.
Most people don't understand how big business works. I don't understand it very well either and I don't mind admitting it. But see all the people thinking they know all about it and making fools of themselves.
It is ludicrous to compare the tax returns of the average person to that of a big business. There is no comparison regarding sources of income and legal deductions.
Why can't people understand that the tax code, set up by the government is set up to benefit the wealthy? They expect big business owners to say, 'Oh, I could claim all these expenses and pay no taxes but that wouldn't be right so I'll not claim them and pay". What kind of a businessman would do that? If he did he wouldn't be in business very long and there would be thousands of people out of work.
Trump had no part in writing the tax code. That was done by the politicians. Furthermore, Clinton/Obama allowed it to continue unchanged for their terms in power and now she's blaming a businessman for taking advantage of it. How dumb is that? How dumb is it to NOT understand that?


Neither can I get the so-called fact that Trump doesn't pay his employees. Jeez! If you worked for someone for one week and he didn't pay you, would you go on working for another week? I wouldn't.


Trump' building projects get completed AHEAD of schedule. That happens when the builders get a bonus for being ahead of schedule.



People aren't asking about Trump's corporate tax returns, they're asking about his personal tax returns. They are not the same thing.


If you don't understand the comments about Trump not paying his employees, then you don't understand anything about corporate bankruptcies, and who gets what.

O.K. we'll go with your reasoning and remove Trump from the picture and then check the Gov't coffers! It's not rocket science- it's just fortunate for the country that there are people willing to take risks and invest in stuff like employment opportunities. Maybe you better do some research before spouting off! :)



So, you're claiming that Trump personally pays the income tax for all of his employees?


Wow.
 

JLM

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Neither can I get the so-called fact that Trump doesn't pay his employees. Jeez! If you worked for someone for one week and he didn't pay you, would you go on working for another week? I wouldn't.


Trump' building projects get completed AHEAD of schedule. That happens when the builders get a bonus for being ahead of schedule.


I think I heard 2 cases cited where Trump didn't pay his employees. Putting two and two together I would guess that the worst two employees out of 22 thousand probably didn't deserve to get paid. Having been a supervisor for over 30 years I would say that 2 employees out of 22 don't deserve to get paid because they are good for f**k all, never mind 22 thousand. I had several that were there for lunch time, quitting time and pay day- just absolutely useless!

So, you're claiming that Trump personally pays the income tax for all of his employees?


Wow.


Who else are they getting their money from? :)

People aren't asking about Trump's corporate tax returns, they're asking about his personal tax returns. They are not the same thing.


Perhaps he keeps his "salary" just below the limit where he has to pay income tax.
I personally don't have a problem with a guy who employs 22,000 people! Why would you?
 

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I think I heard 2 cases cited where Trump didn't pay his employees. Putting two and two together I would guess that the worst two employees out of 22 thousand probably didn't deserve to get paid. Having been a supervisor for over 30 years I would say that 2 employees out of 22 don't deserve to get paid because they are good for f**k all, never mind 22 thousand. I had several that were there for lunch time, quitting time and pay day- just absolutely useless!




Who else are they getting their money from? :)




Perhaps he keeps his "salary" just below the limit where he has to pay income tax.
I personally don't have a problem with a guy who employs 22,000 people! Why would you?



You're not very understanding of how business works. No wonder you support him.