2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
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Ludlow

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It's getting to the point that I don't really care who runs or wins anymore to a certain extent. Oh I'll vote for someone because that's the right thing to do but, in reality, I don't much give a rats patootie who's in there anymore. Unless of course Lady Gaga wins I'd like that.
 

gopher

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It's getting to the point that I don't really care who runs or wins anymore to a certain extent. Oh I'll vote for someone because that's the right thing to do but, in reality, I don't much give a rats patootie who's in there anymore. Unless of course Lady Gaga wins I'd like that.


She's too young at the moment but mebbe some day!
 

JLM

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It's getting to the point that I don't really care who runs or wins anymore to a certain extent. Oh I'll vote for someone because that's the right thing to do but, in reality, I don't much give a rats patootie who's in there anymore.


That's probably the best philosophy - they're pretty much all tarred with the same brush, they are in it for what they can do for themselves.
 

EagleSmack

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Nothing's changed Hillary will win because the Republicans are little more than talking heads
Even when they find a new person its only two months and people don't like them


And let's not forget your other predictions...Amnesty passes Congress and the Republicans will be swept out of Congress this November!


lol


You don't no diddly about US Politics.
 

gopher

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We can only hope so - especially with Ann Coulter as running mate.
 

tay

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"This guy hopped the fence, ran across the White House lawn and almost got inside the White House.


And the Republicans said, 'Well, let's nominate this guy.'"

---David Letterman
 

gopher

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THE TOP TEN REASONS NOT TO VOTE REPUBLICAN IN THE MIDTERMS



The top ten reasons not to vote Republican in the midterms


This Republican House has the least public mandate of any Congress in history. In the 2012 elections, the Republicans won 234 seats to the Democrats 201. But the Democrats won 48.8% of the popular vote, to the Republican’s 47.6%. The Democrat’s vote tally was nearly one-and-a-half-million higher. There is no precedent for this, not even close – never has the legitimate preference of the voters been so distorted.

If the Democrats had won – because they got the most votes – the Tea Party would be far less influential. There would have been no debt ceiling crisis, roiling markets and shaking consumer confidence, and no government shutdown lasting sixteen days.

With the Senate having passed a bi-partisan Immigration bill with more than two-thirds of the chamber voting yea, the house would, by now, have followed suit, with a final bill coming out of conference, bound for the president’s desk.




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No question that gerrymandering (and other obstructions such as denial of early voting) is what is causing the disparity in Congressional representation despite the fact that Democrats have the majority of votes.
 

damngrumpy

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Everyone including me has named Clinton but the fact remains its no longer that clear.
America is looking to reinvent itself and they may well beat a path away from the once
popular Democrat Ms Clinton. for someone else within the ranks of Democratic leadership.
On the other hand the Republicans need to define who the hell they are. They have
become a collection of ideological bobble heads chattering away in a hundred different
directions and split into a series of rigid factions. Social Conservative Christians who are
so rigid the look and sound either like used car salesmen or they have a poker shoved...
well you get the picture. There are the we are better than them folks and the obscure
voices of what used to be the main stage the fiscal conservatives who appear to be all
but trampled by wing nuts and people who look more like a pack of lone wolves if you can
picture that. The Republican need to sit in front of a mirror and ask what can we do to be
relevant in modern society and once they figure that out they must throw the rest out of the
party and rebuild. Even if they gained power they are so divided they would have serious
difficulty governing
 

gopher

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With Virginia's congressional map struck down, what might a replacement look like?


Yesterday afternoon a three-judge federal court panel handed down a 2-1 ruling declaring that the Virginia congressional districts were unconstitutional as enacted by Republicans in 2012. Their reasoning was that in black voters were illegally packed into the 3rd district in an effort to prevent them from exerting an influence on the neighboring districts. The panel ordered the legislature to come up with a new redistricting plan by Apr. 1 of 2015, which would go into effect for 2016. Unlike in 2012 when Republicans had total control of state government, Democratic Gov. Terry McAuliffe can veto any attempts by Republicans to pass another gerrymander should he choose to do so.

While this ruling is certainly a win for Democrats and good-government groups, it is very possible that it will eventually get appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court, who are in the process of hearing a similar case on racial gerrymandering concerning Alabama's state legislative districts.



more at link ....



Republicans have used gerrymandered districting in their quest to retain political power. Hopefully, a fair and objective Supreme Court will put an end to that practice.
 

gopher

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Pennsylvania's Tom Corbett was considered one of the GOP's top candidates for the White House but is now projected as a one term governor in his state. Here's one possible reason:






Smiling black woman next to Corbett on his website was Photoshopped

http://media.philly.com/images/600*108/20140817-Corbett-image.jpg

It's no secret that things haven't always gone smoothly for Gov. Corbett in his effort to woo minority voters in Pennsylvania. Most famously, the one-term GOP governor -- who's in the fight of his life for re-election -- last year told editors of Philadelphia-based Al Dia at a roundtable that he didn't have any Latinos in his cabinet, adding: "If you can find us one, please let us know."

Now, according to a report going viral tonight on social media, Corbett's re-election campaign found an African-American woman to stand next to the governor on his website photos.

Not an actual woman. According to Buzzfeed, the black woman who gazes at Corbett was Photoshopped from a stock picture.


Read more at Smiling black woman next to Corbett on his website was Photoshopped
 

EagleSmack

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JLM

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Everyone including me has named Clinton but the fact remains its no longer that clear.
America is looking to reinvent itself and they may well beat a path away from the once
popular Democrat Ms Clinton.


Sweet little ol' Hillary is NOT presidential material. Read the body language! She's too overwhelmed with her own perceived self importance & I doubt if there's much compassion for the peons and the working poor. (She's a bitch but don't tell anyone I said so):)
 

tay

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Of course, a Sanders' candidacy is the longest of long shots.Clinton's got backers with very deep pockets. It's doubtful there are any billionaires phoning Sanders and offering to open their wallets.


Nonetheless, having Sanders in the 2016 race, seriously in it, repeating his populist message, encouraging the party to move left, would be very good for Democrats, for progressives in and out of the party and for the nation.






The Nation last week published a John Nichols' interview with Sanders about his economic agenda






Bernie Sanders’s Bold Economic Agenda Seeks to Transform Politics | The Nation






Invest in our crumbling infrastructure with a major program to create jobs by rebuilding roads, bridges, water systems, waste water plants, airports, railroads and schools.


• Transform energy systems away from fossil fuels to create jobs while beginning to reverse global warming and make the planet habitable for future generations.


• Develop new economic models to support workers in the United States instead of giving tax breaks to corporations which ship jobs to low-wage countries overseas.


• Make it easier for workers to join unions and bargain for higher wages and benefits.


• Raise the federal minimum wage from $7.25 an hour so no one who works forty hours a week will live in poverty.


• Provide equal pay for women workers who now make 78 percent of what male counterparts make.


• Reform trade policies that have shuttered more than 60,000 factories and cost more than 4.9 million decent-paying manufacturing jobs.


• Make college affordable and provide affordable childcare to restore America’s competitive edge compared to other nations.


• Break up big banks. The six largest banks now have assets equivalent to 61 percent of our gross domestic product, over $9.8 trillion. They underwrite more than half the mortgages in the country and issue more than two-thirds of all credit cards.


• Join the rest of the industrialized world with a Medicare-for-all healthcare system that provides better care at less cost.


• Expand Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and nutrition programs.


• Reform the tax code based on wage earners’ ability to pay and eliminate loopholes that let profitable corporations stash profits overseas and pay no US federal income taxes




Sanders Details Economic Agenda for America - Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont
 

Ludlow

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I really don't care anymore. Everyone in politics runs their opponent down in order to feather their own nest and make themselves look good. It's everything bad in human nature. So to hell with it. Put anyone in it doesn't matter.
 

talloola

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I really don't care anymore. Everyone in politics runs their opponent down in order to feather their own nest and make themselves look good. It's everything bad in human nature. So to hell with it. Put anyone in it doesn't matter.

thats the way i see it too, everyone gets sucked into the same old crap every election, i'm out, looking
in from far away, 'same ole same ole'.