20 Countries Besides Canada Stupid People Are Threatening to Move To B/C of Obamacare

[Spade]

I choose NOT to live in Canada for two reasons.

I am a Canadian Citizen (and my family has been there as long as anyones). I could move there tomorrow, and live anywhere in the country, if I wanted to. But I don't, and won't, because:

1. Canadian Health Care sucks compared to what I already have. And since I never spent money I didn't have, and invested reasonably wisely, I can afford to maintain the best level of care. I also lost my paternal grandmother to the Canadian Health Care system, when she was denied immediate surgery for an abdominal hernia. It strangulated, she developed gangrene, and she died of the sepsis. That will NEVER happen to me.

2. Canada severely restricts the "right of free speech", by banning speech that offends others. ANYONE can claim that virtually anything offends them, and the next thing you know, you are involved in an investigation, you could face a fine, and in extreme cases (by someones definition), you could even face jail.

Living in Argentina?

 

[captain morgan]

Solutions by Spade

My friend Henry used to "catch and release." I told him that if he stopped using hooks on his lures it would eliminate a step or two. Converted him; now he casts around for fun.

Isn't that just called aerobics?

 

[Spade]

Solutions by Spade

Aerobics increases one's carbon footprint. Save the planet; don't exercise.

 

[captain morgan]

Solutions by Spade

Aerobics increases one's carbon footprint. Save the planet; don't exercise.

Hmmmm, I wonder if we were to incorporate large (barbed) fish hooks in the aerobics groups (multiple individuals, you understand) if this inclusion may result in a net decrease in the carbon emissions.

What would Henry do?

 

[L Gilbert]

I choose NOT to live in Canada for two reasons.

I am a Canadian Citizen (and my family has been there as long as anyones).

I doubt that. Wife's family goes back a couple thousand years as far as her dad has discovered.

I could move there tomorrow, and live anywhere in the country, if I wanted to. But I don't, and won't, because:

1. Canadian Health Care sucks compared to what I already have. And since I never spent money I didn't have, and invested reasonably wisely, I can afford to maintain the best level of care. I also lost my paternal grandmother to the Canadian Health Care system, when she was denied immediate surgery for an abdominal hernia. It strangulated, she developed gangrene, and she died of the sepsis. That will NEVER happen to me.

I just watched a show on tv (I think it was 60 minutes maybe) about a nurse's husband that died of cancer and the medical insurance he was "covered" under, didn't cover him. Not only that it was an easily remedied cancer, and the insurance board dragged it out long enough that the remedy would have been too late even if they'd decided to go for it. THAT was in the States.
Never say "never".

2. Canada severely restricts the "right of free speech", by banning speech that offends others. ANYONE can claim that virtually anything offends them, and the next thing you know, you are involved in an investigation, you could face a fine, and in extreme cases (by someones definition), you could even face jail.

Links?

 

[Spade]

Henry has stopped breathing. He learnt in school that one breath exhales approximately one gram of CO2. At 20 breaths per minute, over one year period that is about 10.5 tonnes of CO2. If the entire population of the planet stopped breathing, the carbon footprint would be reduced by 68.3 trillion tonnes of CO2.

 

[taxslave]

Probably true enough. BUTT.........Check out the cost of knee replacement in the US.

As you are wont to say: Nothing is actually FREE.

$100/ mo is cheap. Them that can't afford it do ride for free. An you knows it.

I know paying one's way hurts. Done it for years. As have you. I see poor folks with rotten teeth, no where to live, and it sucks.

Whatever.

Fish weren't biting. Came back. Had to check in just to see if you were ok.

Fishin again tomorrow

Happy Fukkin Kanader day egh.

I agree it is cheap if you need it. I just wish more people would understand that government services are not free.

 

[L Gilbert]

Henry has stopped breathing. He learnt in school that one breath exhales approximately one gram of CO2. At 20 breaths per minute, over one year period that is about 10.5 tonnes of CO2. If the entire population of the planet stopped breathing, the carbon fooyprint would be reduced by 68.3 trillion tonnes of CO2.

Doesn't need to be that much of a decrease, I don't think. lol

 

[The Old Medic]

I doubt that. Wife's family goes back a couple thousand years as far as her dad has discovered.

Links?

I am Métis, and my Native ancestry goes back to pre-history. My "Swampy Cree family members were here long before any "White Man' ever thought about leaving his caves in Europe.

My European side first came to Nova Scotia in 1764. All lines of them were in Canada by 1802, when the last of the Scots thrown out in the "Highland Clearances" arrived. I also have several Loyalist lines that came to Canada in 1783 (both to the part of Quebec that became Ontario, and to Nova Scotia). That is my fathers side of the family.

My Mothers side of the family had 3 people that came on the Mayflower, and ALL of her lines were in the Colonies by 1640.

I think I can safely claim that my family has been in North America as long as any other persons. I can also track my English, Scots, French, Dutch and Spanish lines back to at least the 9th century. (It gets a bit mixed beyond that date. You can show certain people, but not precise dates).

Unless you tie into a Royal, Noble or very wealthy family, any genealogy beyond the 16th century is pretty much made up. They just don't have the records on most common people. It's sad, because they were by far the majority, but the records simply do not exist in most cases. And any genealogy that can not be proven with records, is meaningless.

There is absolutely NO valid genealogy that goes back 2,000 years. There are a LOT of them around, including on the Internet, but they are faked. Most of them depend on published "genealogies" from the late 19th century, that were 100% false. Unfortunately, more and more people find them, hook i nto them, and suddenly "discover" an instant family. They literally don't have a clue that almost all of it is made up.

I am lucky enough that I have several connections to Royal, Noble and Wealthy family lines, and most of them can easily be traced (some back to at least the 9th century). They are very well documented in British, French, Spanish, etc. records. Unfortunately, I come from a LONG line of younger sons, younger daughters, etc., and all family money was long gone before the family came to the American Colonies.

One family, the Wright's, did have money, but my line went back to being Catholic, and they lost everything. It was a miracle they were not executed, but they were allowed to emigrate. Ironically, the children all became Protestants again, as they hit New England.

It was from that line that my most "Unique" ancestor came. Corporal Wait Wright is the ONLY known person that qualifies any ancestor to join the Daughters/Sons of the American Revolution AND, the United Empire Loyalists. He is well documented for his service on BOTH sides during the Revolution, and was active in several battles against the British. He was made a Corporal in the Vermont Militia. In the last six months of the war, he is documented to have joined the "Kings Rangers".

Genealogy is something I have worked on for over 40 years now. I do some consulting on Genealogy, and I have also taught classes on it.

 

[relic]

That Mayflower was a helluva big boat,or it was full of randy people.Everybody seems to have had a relative on the famous Mayflower.

 

[GroundWater]

Kinda of funny that there are countrys the U.S tax payers pay for Universal Health Care under so called war funding. If the U.S get's there UHC, they would be one up on Africa.

 

[gopher]

Delusional right wingers moving to countries with universal health care to avoid "Obamacare"!

Right wing lunacy at its worse!

 

[JLM]

Henry has stopped breathing. He learnt in school that one breath exhales approximately one gram of CO2. At 20 breaths per minute, over one year period that is about 10.5 tonnes of CO2. If the entire population of the planet stopped breathing, the carbon footprint would be reduced by 68.3 trillion tonnes of CO2.

I'll have to think on that one for awhile! (but don't hold your breath) :lol:

 

[Tonington]

Virgin's have low carbon footprints? Henry may want to reconsider.

 

[Spade]

OOPS, 68.3 billion tonnes. Sorry!

 

[L Gilbert]

I am Métis, and my Native ancestry goes back to pre-history. My "Swampy Cree family members were here long before any "White Man' ever thought about leaving his caves in Europe.

My European side first came to Nova Scotia in 1764. All lines of them were in Canada by 1802, when the last of the Scots thrown out in the "Highland Clearances" arrived. I also have several Loyalist lines that came to Canada in 1783 (both to the part of Quebec that became Ontario, and to Nova Scotia). That is my fathers side of the family.

My Mothers side of the family had 3 people that came on the Mayflower, and ALL of her lines were in the Colonies by 1640.

I think I can safely claim that my family has been in North America as long as any other persons. I can also track my English, Scots, French, Dutch and Spanish lines back to at least the 9th century. (It gets a bit mixed beyond that date. You can show certain people, but not precise dates).

Unless you tie into a Royal, Noble or very wealthy family, any genealogy beyond the 16th century is pretty much made up. They just don't have the records on most common people. It's sad, because they were by far the majority, but the records simply do not exist in most cases. And any genealogy that can not be proven with records, is meaningless.

There is absolutely NO valid genealogy that goes back 2,000 years. There are a LOT of them around, including on the Internet, but they are faked. Most of them depend on published "genealogies" from the late 19th century, that were 100% false. Unfortunately, more and more people find them, hook i nto them, and suddenly "discover" an instant family. They literally don't have a clue that almost all of it is made up.

I am lucky enough that I have several connections to Royal, Noble and Wealthy family lines, and most of them can easily be traced (some back to at least the 9th century). They are very well documented in British, French, Spanish, etc. records. Unfortunately, I come from a LONG line of younger sons, younger daughters, etc., and all family money was long gone before the family came to the American Colonies.

One family, the Wright's, did have money, but my line went back to being Catholic, and they lost everything. It was a miracle they were not executed, but they were allowed to emigrate. Ironically, the children all became Protestants again, as they hit New England.

It was from that line that my most "Unique" ancestor came. Corporal Wait Wright is the ONLY known person that qualifies any ancestor to join the Daughters/Sons of the American Revolution AND, the United Empire Loyalists. He is well documented for his service on BOTH sides during the Revolution, and was active in several battles against the British. He was made a Corporal in the Vermont Militia. In the last six months of the war, he is documented to have joined the "Kings Rangers".

Genealogy is something I have worked on for over 40 years now. I do some consulting on Genealogy, and I have also taught classes on it.

Congrats. Written history isn't everything, though.