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The satellite doesn't care about your but's Walter. The world holds heat in more than just surface air temperature. :lol: A kettle has no continents, no air or water currents, and no El Nino/La Nina cycles. That's a stupid analogy. Natural variability is non-existent in a kettle. Water has a...

Yeah, well that was more aimed at you calling it clean, but we can ignore that. As to climate, we have measured the energy budget at the top of the atmosphere, with satellites. It's about 3 less watts per square meter going out than coming in, that means the planet retains heat. The...

Ocean acidification. Direct evidence.

Anathematic? Those in the lobby for mitigating climate change typically are the ones who are advocates of new technologies, more efficient technologies. How on Earth can technology then be said to be anathematic to them? It's the luddites in the "skeptic" movement who are doing their best to...

Read this for some context about the 1970's and what was said: http://ams.allenpress.com/archive/1520-0477/89/9/pdf/i1520-0477-89-9-1325.pdf

How can I not? Did you read what you wrote? If I were hysterical, I would probably be typing in capslock to you. I think I'll take Anna's advice. I shouldn't argue with morons like you smack. You drag me down to your level and beat me every time with your vast experience. I concede.

I agree. You do tend to get hysterical when I show up in one of these threads. You just can't believe that I don't see the Truth you see. :lol:

Spoken like a Truther! You just can't hide your Truther self.

...You believe the conspiracy. You think others are conspiring against you... You really aren't that bright. I feel kind of sad for you.

No, just answering your questions. If your fingers weren't faster than your brain, you might have gotten them out in the right order. I don't have a side kick. There's that pesky denial again. I don't know why you would. But you did. There's a lot of things you say which don't really make much...

No, you'd have to be grounded in reality to be offended. It's a nice coping mechanism you conspiracy nuts have.

No, you never asked the question. I'm not a mind reader. Indeed. Why not? Did you even read what I wrote? I said all users should pay. Smarten up. You expect me to know? I'm not a consular official. Part of asking good questions is directing them to the right people. Smarten up. I'm sure you...

Right...I'm the one who ignores science. You're hilarious smack. I mean you should be doing standup, instead of wasting your talents here. I'm telling you. You can tell the liberals after you enlighten yourself that the weather you are experiencing is not indicative of the globe.

Because they aren't accounting on their balance sheets for something that has no value, and no cost? Because the real costs are imposed on others. So users should pay? How the reductions to pollution happen, is a policy decision. It's meant to address a goal. Are you getting this? Holy crap...

Not if you're talking about the globe...the Earth doesn't revolve around Massachusetts. Cripes. I guess you can ignore all those other big red dots if you're willing to turn a blind eye.

No, you're saying that he is on my side. You don't know what my side is. That's certainly what you'd like to make it.

You said making them[corporations and industrialized nations] pay is the real goal. The real goal is not to make people pay. The goal is to reduce pollution. You're saying that the real goal is hidden under the public goal. That is a conspiracy. I believe users should pay. I think that's fair...

Yes, that's correct. The average is the 1961-1990 period.

Ahh, moving goal posts now. That's not what you said. You said the purpose was to make corporations pay environmental groups. You said this was the one true goal. You're no different on this subject than the Truthers you castigate.

Yup, conspiracy. Thousands of people working to dupe everyone. I mean it's almost as fantastic as the 9/11 conspiracy!