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what a stoopid comment. I spoke of non-compliance penalty and sanction. If you think they hold no legal attachment, perhaps you should have alerted your boy Harper to that fact... he didn't need to avoid the penalty owed and make a world-wide media splash with the formal announcement to pull...

per your OP Walter, you just linked to the guys blog homepage! What facts... laid out beautifully... are you speaking to? Any in particular caught your fancy? I appreciate this is now the "half-dozenth, or so" time I've asked you, but if you don't want to talk about Uncle Roy's facts... why did...

I'd give a a buttHurtin' pic... but that ain't my style! The only answer you kept bleating on about was the one that showcased you didn't even read the article... that you probably haven't a clue about sun cycles and their respective max/min levels. do you have any character Walter? I'm still...

you already showed you had no understanding of the penalty mechanism in place... now you're highlighting you aren't aware of non-compliance sanctions that were a part of the Kyoto agreement - see Marrakesh Accords. Yours is the height of pomposity to simply drop in (with no foundation), show you...

no... ya see, that wasn't a prediction! It was a sarcastic slam that Walter (and now you) didn't/doesn't get. From the point of the article's reference to the 2008/2009 event focused on... we've already gone past the next cycle max (which relatively speaking, was not very max at all). So, now...

do I intend? Are you that naive as to how agreements are stuck... legally binding struck? You know, that's the reason why Harper formally bailed on Kyoto... I mean, he ignored it for all those years, but eventually the piper had to be paid for failing to reach Canada's emissions reduction...

you dullard! Do you ever read... or is your comprehension that poor/weak? If we're already at the max, for the purveyors of "it's the Sun, it's the Sun", it's already as hot "as it's going to get"... from the perspective of those flogging 'it's the Sun, it's the Sun". just give me another...

are you working on presenting some of those "Roy Spencer facts" you alluded to in your OP? As you say, "please tell us". and yes Walter, that was a bit of sarcasm given the 2010 date of the article mentioned (and the 2008/9 focus, which I highlighted) was already the minimum... did you bother...

when some of your pet-theories are questioned/challenged... and you have no comeback, no need to get so defensive. So now you've reached into the "thermosphere... for cooling CO2" and think you'll try that one out for a while! Make sure you speak to the timing significance of 2008/2009..... and...

your initial post spoke with such authority, I'm surprised you don't have a number! In any case, any direct contribution aspects, say to a "climate fund", pale in comparison to the negotiations and binding target emission agreements being targeted. Talk of a direct monetary transfer facet is...

interesting that you would equate negotiations/agreement to... UN wealth transfer. That's novel; that's certainly never been stated before! :lol: Do you have a personal monetary measurement value on that "save' you speak of... and how did you arrive at it?

Walter, you and your lil' oneLiner buddy 'taxslave' are certainly encouraged to attempt to counter my post; you know, what you're oneLining about here - yes? not sure why you resurrected this thread Walter... your OP talks of "the left not liking facts"! Again Walter, is there "left-leaning...

real scientists, Walter... real ones! Not your favoured kind of "(denier) blog scientists" of course; already acknowledged..... but no evidence linking sunspots to the relatively recent receding of glaciers! GLOBAL LAND ICE MEASUREMENTS FROM SPACE (GLIMS): an international collaboration...

as I mentioned, member petros' graph is sourced from denier 'Don Easterbrook'... a guy whose smattering of publications has been significantly refuted. In this case, member petros' graph originates from here (although you can certainly find it on several denier blogs, in several variants of this...

as before, as always... you're most encouraged to bring forward countering presentation that would dispute the, as you say, "rightness" of the graph above... of any graph I present. You've sure whined and wailed over a number of graphs I've linked to recently; but somehow, you never can get past...

the same questions await you.... why are you avoiding them? You so are the HoloceneMan, yet you refuse to answer my questions concerning the causal tie to Holocene Optimum warming and how you believe that correlates with today's relatively recent warming. Why are you so deflecting of those...

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stay vigilant, stay alert, stay tuned... Global temperature update (year-to-date to the end of November) to be released in 6 days: Dec 8th

November was the hottest month and ended the hottest spring on record for Australia... the soaring temperatures are part of a trend putting the 2014 world on track for the warmest year on record.

petrocd, take your OCD meds!