Why don't you just go back to those "old forums" ... or did they tell you to screw off too?
See, I could respond with something childish as well, but I'd like to ..... you know..... stay on topic? :roll:
Why don't you just go back to those "old forums" ... or did they tell you to screw off too?
See, I could respond with something childish as well, but I'd like to ..... you know..... stay on topic? :roll:
And if you want to start pushing things to the next level with petty insults by calling me a jerk, don't think I'll hessitate to follow.....
Actually i'd say the opposite.
Individuals rights must be respected against societal wants.
They wouldn't be rights if they only had meaning when people felt like it. The Jim Crow laws are a perfect example of why a right is meaningless if public opinions change them at whim.
Then the individual shouldn't live in societies. The whole idea behind societies is to benefit the mass, not the individual.
The only thing firearms are good for is killing. Get over it.Cars have some use for some of the public. Firearms have some use for some of the public. Get over it.
The guy still has a better chance at living afterwards from his injuries then he would with a bullet bouncing back and forth inside their body, destroying organs, tissue and bone.
Then get used to me posting more articles of mass shootings in the US as they occur and the message that you guys still won't do anything about them, except to just accept it as a reality of your everyday life. Disagree all you like... it doesn't remove the fact that you guys have the worst level of gun related crimes in all of the developed countries.
It could be a zoo for all I care, there's no need for the level of lax gun control in that State.
That's all well and good, but it does nothing to prevent a crime from happening.... all of those things are punishments after the fact, when most caught alive don't care, or they shoot themselves before getting caught.
As I have said thousands of times already and I'll say it again, I'm not for the total removal of firearms... what I am for is some kind of regulation and checkup on people prior to handing them a weapon. If they fail a written mental evaluation or pose a risk to others if given a firearm, either they can seek further training and help to address those issues, or don't give them a gun in the first place.
The right to bear arms was geared for people of sound mind I would imagine, who are capable of defending the constitution and the State.... it wouldn't be wise to hand weapons to someone in a hospital of the criminally insane, so why would it hurt to check people first to make sure they don't belong there before you toss them a gun?
Hell, you're allowed to fly in planes and travel the world, but you're still screeened from head to toe when entering the Airport to make sure you're not a threat to others..... same goes for vehicles.... you are tested prior to be given what you are tested for.
I would probably have a bit more ease of mind if I knew the people around me who have the right to carry their firearms, were properly checked, trained and screened before hand.
Yes, I and many other people are well aware that this won't remove gun related violence all together.... nothing can remove anything all together no matter what you're talking about.
But that doesn't mean you can't at least try and reduce it..... and if one or two extra people lived because of such regulations, then it'd be worth it if you ask me.
The only thing firearms are good for is killing. Get over it.
I agree with you, but what other use does a gun have?????I'm inclined to believe it's the deranged control freak on the trigger (or the steering wheel) who kills. The gun, the car, the knife, the bludgeon, the big mouth.... They're just tools
I agree with you, but what other use goes a gun have?????
I agree with you, but what other use goes a gun have?????
Thats not the type of gun we are talking about here....I have two old flintlock pistols and an ancient .22 that look really cool on my wall.....:lol:
Here, I'll make it a bit more simpler for you:
"While it's so easy to go off course when discussing something, we ask that you try to keep it to a minimum. While it's ok to make a quick remark that's off topic in the thread, we ask that you keep it as a secondary point to your reply post. Feel free to create a new thread if you want to discuss something else, but try to keep people's threads clean and ontopic."
.. Andem
My comments starting this thread wasn't about "Oh poor people getting shot" it was directly towards how often this sort of thing continually happens, why and how to prevent it. If you couldn't figure this out on your own in post #1, then you clearly haven't seen the slew of other threads I have started to do this to in older examples, only for it to be side-tracked to something totally different, very much like what you are trying to do.
The thread never began until I started it and I created it.... get your sh*t together will you.
Ever hear of animal control, or don't they exist in your neck of the woods.Ever had a rapid animal living under your deck? Going under there with a knife isn't really that good of an idea.
Better solution: don't sell guns....yes, fast and ornery.
And calling Animal control is great if you wanna wait an hour or two, or more, assuming they come today at all.
Then they can charge you money for them taking the animal and shooting it. Which is great, cause now they can shoot your dog too that it was bit while you were waiting all day.
Im not sure about anymore, but I know they used to send you a bill for the visit anyway.
The solution to gun ownership is simple:
If you don't think you can be trusted with a gun, don't buy one.
Thats not the type of gun we are talking about here....
You can't create a thread about a tragedy, then derail it to talk about how Gun Ownership may be linked to the tragedy (it isn't), and then throw a fit when someone points out how gun ownership is a strawman arguement and points out examples of why.
Topic drift, the topic was on the tragedy...
I assumed you were talking about antiques, non workable, if you have them on display.... Sounds like you are breaking the law if they can shoot and are not locked up...A pair of duelling pistols and the rifle I had to shoot my dog with? What type of gun are we talking?
I assumed you were talking about antiques, non workable, if you have them on display.... Sounds like you are breaking the law if they can shoot and are not locked up...
Yes, Pax ... I know you could respond with something childish.... And frankly I don't expect anything better of you. Stay on topic? You mean agree with you? The world doesn't work that way ... not even in here on your PC. Switch channels if you feel the urge to control.
Um ... who was it who used "jerk extraordinaire" as a descriptor?