Child in nude photo 'offended' by Australian PM's reaction

[Praxius]

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/07/07/nude-art.html

A girl whose nude photo appeared on the cover of an art magazine says she's offended by comments from Australia's prime minister who called the photo revolting.

Olympia Nelson, now 11, posed nude at the age of six for the photo taken by her mother, Melbourne photographer Polixeni Papapetrou.

When the photo appeared on the cover of the July issue of Art Monthly magazine, Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd threatened to pull funding for the magazine.

The cover has reignited a debate over depictions of children in art, in the wake of a controversy over photos of naked prepubescent girls by artist Bill Henson.

Nelson said it was ridiculous to connect her nude photo with abuse of children. "I think that the picture my mum took of me has nothing to do with being abused," she said.

"I'm really, really offended by what Kevin Rudd said about this picture."

"For him to be talking about my picture, the picture with me in it, it doesn't feel very good," she said.

Nelson is posed with her left leg bent and arms around the bent leg on the cover. Inside there are photos showing her trying on jewelry, taken by her mother, and nude child photos by Henson.

Nelson also defended Henson's works, which were pulled from a Sydney gallery for investigation.

Art Monthly editor Maurice O'Riordan said he hoped the edition would "validate nudity and childhood as subjects for art.''

The photos were an attempt to elevate the debate over Henson's art, which drew the ire of politicians and was pulled from a Sydney gallery in May, O'Riordan said. Police eventually dropped the investigation and decided against indecency charges.

But federal Opposition Leader Brendan Nelson said he will ask police to investigate the photo on the cover and those inside the magazine.

"What these people have done in this publication and using the photographs of this child in this way, is send a two-fingered salute to the rest of society," he said.

"I will be asking the police authorities to investigate whether there is any breach of the law as it stands by the publication of these photographs."

Robert Nelson, who is Papapetrou's husband, Olympia's father and an art critic for The Age newspaper, said he believed there was very little risk that pedophiles would be attracted by the photo. He said the family considers the images to be creative and artistic.

The prime minister's criticism of the work is uninformed and damaging, Nelson said.

"I think he's welcome to have an opinion on art — I think that's to be encouraged," he said.

"I think the problem arises when, as he did with Bill Henson, he declared that the images are revolting and linked them to the protection of children without a shred of evidence."

Artists also defended the use of a nude photo on the cover of Art Monthly.

"I guess if you're the editor of a magazine which is meant to be reporting on Australia on a month-by-month basis and this has been the biggest thing in Australian art for a long time, you'd be [neglecting] your duty if you didn't actually discuss the debate," said Martyn Jolly, who teaches art at Australian National University.

And now the debate is thrown to you.

 

[Risus]

Without actually seeing the photos, its impossible to comment as to whether they are offensive or not...

 

[lone wolf]

Hmm... Did willy wiggle?

I hope that PM was a least tactful and said it in a way the kid knows it was the photo that is revolting and not her.

Child nudity isn't safe to depict because too many out there view it with intent unintended by the display.

 

[quandary121]

"I think the problem arises when, as he did with Bill Henson, he declared that the images are revolting and linked them to the protection of children without a shred of evidence."

i think this sums it up quite nicely

 

[L Gilbert]

Our kids ran around nude lots. Me, too, for that matter. Can't remember anyone ever complaining. Probably because everyone else's kids used to run around naked, too. One of their fave things was to play in the sprinklers on a summer day or go skinny dipping.
Anyway, I am sure there still are a few people around who aren't offended by kids being nude; just as there are a few people willing to prey on them.

 

[quandary121]

Our kids ran around nude lots. Me, too, for that matter. Can't remember anyone ever complaining. Probably because everyone else's kids used to run around naked, too. One of their fave things was to play in the sprinklers on a summer day or go skinny dipping.
Anyway, I am sure there still are a few people around who aren't offended by kids being nude; just as there are a few people willing to prey on them.

just as there are a few people willing to prey on them

Far too many over here m8, I'm currently a witness in a case against one very such person ,and i hope they throw the book at him, for what he has done ,like you say life used to be much simpler back in the days eh :smile:

 

[L Gilbert]

Yes, it was. I agree that even one predator is too many.

 

[lone wolf]

Our kids ran around nude lots. Me, too, for that matter. Can't remember anyone ever complaining. Probably because everyone else's kids used to run around naked, too. One of their fave things was to play in the sprinklers on a summer day or go skinny dipping.
Anyway, I am sure there still are a few people around who aren't offended by kids being nude; just as there are a few people willing to prey on them.

The hang-ups really start happening when other people start projectiong their own "evil" on what is otherwise an innocent and very natural thing.

 

[Stretch]

If everyone was naked, there wouldnt be any perverts....what are they going to do, drag ya into the bush and put clothes on ya? How sick is that. :lol:

 

[Zzarchov]

Its true, nudist colonies have few child sex offenders. But I guess thats because its alot easier to spot when someone is looking inappropriately at children without clothes on.

 

[Canaduh]

Heres a link to a medium size scan of the front page, if your offended by it dont click the link.

http://www.artmonthly.org.au/images/covers/JULYcover211LG.jpg

 

[L Gilbert]

RE: http://www.artmonthly.org.au/images/...cover211LG.jpg

Jeeeeeeeez. They called that offensive?

 

[Stretch]

Pedophilia is rampant thru the upper echelon of gov, royalty, judicial, the rich(which usually encompasses the afore mentioned) rudd would have felt he needed to say something.....guilty conscience?

 

[gerryh]

Pedophilia is rampant thru the upper echelon of gov, royalty, judicial, the rich(which usually encompasses the afore mentioned) rudd would have felt he needed to say something.....guilty conscience?

You have any proof of these allegations? Or are you just blowing BS out your ass, as usual?

 

[L Gilbert]

Well there have been the odd one here and there. I think "rampant" is a bit of an exaggeration.

 

[lone wolf]

Heres a link to a medium size scan of the front page, if your offended by it dont click the link.

http://www.artmonthly.org.au/images/covers/JULYcover211LG.jpg

Cute kid.... There's the keyword: KID. If anyone gets their jollies off about that probably would with the kiddies undergarmet section too.

 

[Stretch]

You have any proof of these allegations? Or are you just blowing BS out your ass, as usual?

A good friend of mine, a Queensland Police Senior Sargent went to a 2 day confrence on pedophilia in Sydney. When he returned home he was pissed off. Thought it would be on how to catch pedophiles but, he said all it was about was getting the term pedohile and pedophilia out into the public to get them used to it.
Remember, its not that long ago that gay and homosexual were taboo, but today its accepted as being "normal" hell, we even have parades cellebrating it.

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As I have been saying all these years, there are state-protected paedophile rings in every country.
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[Canaduh]

God when will this idiot stop spamming every post with David Icke links and trying to link EVERYTHING to some global conspiracy.

 

[Praxius]

A good friend of mine, a Queensland Police Senior Sargent went to a 2 day confrence on pedophilia in Sydney. When he returned home he was pissed off. Thought it would be on how to catch pedophiles but, he said all it was about was getting the term pedohile and pedophilia out into the public to get them used to it.
Remember, its not that long ago that gay and homosexual were taboo, but today its accepted as being "normal" hell, we even have parades cellebrating it.....

First, Homosexuality is usually between to consenting adults.... pedophilia is an adult and a minor with lack of proper rights and decision making capabilities for such situations.

The two do not relate, therefore homosexuality is a piss poor example in relation to pedophilia.

Not to mention none of the rest of that long winded stuff relates to the Australian situation in post #1, so wtf's your point?

Is the girl's photos on the mag considdered child pornography or art? If it is Child Pornography, then do you think their parents are endangering them or possibly allowing pedophiles access to their daughter? Do their pictures of their daughter make them pedophiles since they took them?

Back to your original comment:

"Pedophilia is rampant thru the upper echelon of gov, royalty, judicial, the rich(which usually encompasses the afore mentioned) rudd would have felt he needed to say something.....guilty conscience? "

Your above list of details did not place anything at the feet of the PM of Australia, let alone any of his own involvement..... for all you or I know, it was a personal opinion in which he felt was good for the general public to view him as a good guy taking a stance on something in order to get more votes next time.

He should have kept his mouth shut imo.

 

[Risus]

I think it is close to the borderline art vs child porn only in the fact that the photo posted could arouse one of the perverts referred to above. I'm not a prude, but having that photo on the cover of a magazine is pushing the limits IMHO.