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The Official 9/11 Story IS a Conspiracy Theory!

9/11 was a conspiracy, as it involved several people conspiring to commit a crime. The official 9/11 narrative, as codified by the 9/11 Commission Report, is NOT proven as the most likely explanation for the events of 9/11/2001. The official 9/11 story is therefore a theory. This means that the OFFICIAL 9/11 Story is really a "CONSPIRACY THEORY"!
This was the Bigges Robbery in History!!
Where did all the Gold go beneath the WTC??
They found an abandoned truck fully loaded with Gold beneath WTC5!! Where do you think the rest was going??
 

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The Official 9/11 Story IS a Conspiracy Theory!

9/11 was a conspiracy, as it involved several people conspiring to commit a crime. The official 9/11 narrative, as codified by the 9/11 Commission Report, is NOT proven as the most likely explanation for the events of 9/11/2001. The official 9/11 story is therefore a theory. This means that the OFFICIAL 9/11 Story is really a "CONSPIRACY THEORY"!
This was the Bigges Robbery in History!!
Where did all the Gold go beneath the WTC??
They found an abandoned truck fully loaded with Gold beneath WTC5!! Where do you think the rest was going??

Should I care? No. Because I don't. B2U
 

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We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate
outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the
11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the
terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty.
To inflame
ethnic hatred is to advance the cause of terror.
- President Bush Speaks to United
Nations, November 10, 2001​
 

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We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate
outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the
11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the
terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty.
To inflame
ethnic hatred is to advance the cause of terror.
- President Bush Speaks to United
Nations, November 10, 2001​

Other than downloading stuff, are you able form a thought of your own and let us read it?
 

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We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate
outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the
11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the
terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty. To inflame
ethnic hatred is to advance the cause of terror.
- President Bush Speaks to United​

Nations, November 10, 2001​

Where every statement condemning conspiracy theories falls apart is in the conspiracy theory that terrorists orchestrated 9/11.

Woof!
 

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In January of 2002, the Washington Post ran a story detailing a CIA plan put forward to President Bush shortly after 9/11 by CIA Director George Tenet titled, "Worldwide Attack Matrix," which was "outlining a clandestine anti-terror campaign in 80 countries around the world. What he was ready to propose represented a striking and risky departure for U.S. policy and would give the CIA the broadest and most lethal authority in its history." The plan entailed CIA and Special Forces "covert operations across the globe," and at "the heart of the proposal was a recommendation that the president give the CIA what Tenet labeled "exceptional authorities" to attack and destroy al Qaeda in Afghanistan and the rest of the world." Tenet cited the need for such authority "to allow the agency to operate without restraint -- and he wanted encouragement from the president to take risks." Among the many authorities recommended was the use of "deadly force."

Further, "Another proposal was that the CIA increase liaison work with key foreign intelligence services," as "Using such intelligence services as surrogates could triple or quadruple the CIA's effectiveness." The Worldwide Attack Matrix "described covert operations in 80 countries that were either underway or that he was now recommending. The actions ranged from routine propaganda to lethal covert action in preparation for military attacks," as well as "In some countries, CIA teams would break into facilities to obtain information."

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=25513
 

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Where every statement condemning conspiracy theories falls apart is in the conspiracy theory that terrorists orchestrated 9/11.

Woof!

Bravo Lone,
A real true thought out statement that makes complete sense. I applaud you.
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Emergency Official Witnessed Dead Bodies In WTC 7

In exclusive video, Barry Jennings
discusses explosions in Building 7 before collapse of twin towers
Paul Joseph Watson


Exclusive video of emergency official Barry Jennings discussing explosions inside WTC 7 before either of the twin towers had collapsed and having to step over dead bodies of victims as he attempted to vacate the building has been released for the first time.

The clip, which was originally intended to feature in Loose Change Final Cut but had to be withdrawn according to Jennings' wishes after he had received threats, has now been made public in anticipation of a BBC documentary about Building 7 which is expected to skew Jennings' account in an attempt to reinforce the official story.

In reality, what Jennings witnessed completely contradicts the official story of what happened to Building 7.

On the morning of 9/11 in his capacity as Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority, Jennings and Michael Hess, who is a founding Partner and Senior Managing Director of Giuliani Partners LLC, visited the Office of Emergency Management inside Building 7 only to find it had been abandoned.

"Upon arriving into the OEM EOC, we noticed that everybody was gone," said Jennings. "I saw coffee that was on the desk, the smoke was still coming off the coffee, I saw half-eaten sandwiches," he stated, adding that he and Hess were told to leave the building right away.

Jennings and Hess found a stairwell and descended the stairs.

"When we reached the 6th floor the landing that we were standing on gave way, there was an explosion and the landing gave way, I was left there hanging, I had to climb back up and walk back up to the 8th floor," said Jennings.

"The explosion was beneath me....so when the explosion happened it blew us back....both buildings (the twin towers) were still standing," he added.

"I was trapped in there for several hours, I was trapped in there when both buildings came down - all this time I'm hearing all kinds of explosions, all this time I'm hearing explosions, said Jennings, adding that when firefighters took them down to the lobby it was in "total ruins".

"For me to see what I saw was unbelievable," said Jennings

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=25505
 

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Loose Change Final Cut is the third and final release of this documentary series. We draw upon our experience and research that's taken place since the release of Loose Change 2nd Edition to make this new film.

Loose Change Final Cut is substantially different from Loose Change and Loose Change 2nd Edition Recut in the way it presents the information surrounding 9/11/2001. However, it remains true to the spirit that has made Loose Change what it is today.

Because we are trying to accomplish the fairest documentary possible, we interviewed dozens of professionals who both agree and disagree with the official version of events of that day.

Loose Change Final Cut is our best effort to tell the story of what happened surrounding 9/11/2001 and expose the events in need of investigation.

The official movie site is here: http://lc911finalcut.com

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..."About the List of Suspected 9-11 Criminal Coconspirators.
This list was compiled after many hours of research. Many, if not most, of the people named here were very likely criminally involved in the planning, execution, and cover-up of the crimes of 9-11 — crimes which include mass murder, accessory to mass murder, and treason. There is a slim possibility that a few people named here should not be on this list. If evidence surfaces that would exonerate someone named here, their name will be removed.
Clearly, there are people who were involved who are not on this list; for instance, the people on the small team of demolition experts who actually wired WTC 1, 2, and 7 for demolition. We won’t have a final verdict on all of the perpetrators until a new and fully independent 9-11 investigation is launched that has the ability to subpoena documents and question suspects under oath....."

George W. Bush — eldest son of Bush crime family; guilty of election fraud in 2000, 2004; guilty of war crimes, war profiteering, treason, crimes against humanity; likely signed-off on 9-11 plot​

Dick Cheney — former PNAC member; guilty of war profiteering, treason; was in bunker on 9-11 directing several “war games”; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about timing of 9-11 activities​
Donald Rumsfeld — former Secretary of War and PNAC member; close friend of Cheney; was at Pentagon on 9-11; once slipped and said “when that missile hit the Pentagon”​
Paul Wolfowitz — Deputy Secretary of War on 9-11; “dual citizen” of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member; chief architect of Iraq war; forced to resign in World Bank scandal​
Richard Perle — former assistant Secretary of War, chairman War Policy Board, and PNAC member; “dual citizen” of US and Israel; Zionist; allegedly gave $100,000 to head of Pakistan’s ISI, Mahmoud Ahmad; nicknamed “Prince of Darkness”​
 

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Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth

Filed under:

September 10, 2007 - 22:19



ae911truth.org</STRONG>

[included here is just an excerpt from the web page]
Mission Statement:

To research and to disseminate the truth
of the 9/11 “collapses” of all 3 WTC high-rise buildings
to every architect and engineer

As seen in this revealing photo the Twin Towers' destruction exhibited all the characteristics of destruction by explosions:
1. Extremely rapid onset of “collapse”
2. Sounds of explosions at plane impact zone — a full second prior to collapse (heard by 118 first responders as well as by media reporters)
3. Observations of flashes (seen by numerous professionals)
4. Squibs, or “mistimed” explosions, 40 floors below the “collapsing” building seen in all the videos
5. Mid-air pulverization of all the 90,000 tons of concrete and steel decking, filing cabinets & 1000 people – mostly to dust
6. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic dust clouds
7. Vertical progression of full building perimeter demolition waves
8. Symmetrical collapse – through the path of greatest resistance – at free-fall speed — the columns gave no resistance
9. 1,400 foot diameter field of equally distributed debris – outside of building footprint
10. Blast waves blew out windows in buildings 400 feet away
11. Lateral ejection of thousands of individual 20 - 50 ton steel beams up to 500 feet
12. Total destruction of the building down to individual structural steel elements – obliterating the steel core structure.
13. Tons of molten Metal found by FDNY under all 3 high-rises (no other possible source other than an incendiary cutting charge such as Thermate)
14. Chemical signature of Thermate (high tech incendiary) found in slag, solidified molten metal, and dust samples by Physics professor Steven Jones, PhD.
15. FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples
16. More than 1000 Bodies are unaccounted for — 700 tiny bone fragments found on top of nearby buildings
And exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire, i.e.
1. Slow onset with large visible deformations
2. Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, intact, from the point of plane impact, to the side most damaged by the fires)
3. Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel
4. High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never “collapsed”
 

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"He who passively accepts evil
is as much involved in it
as he who helps to perpetrate it.
He who accepts evil
without protesting against it
is really cooperating with it."
- Martin Luther King. Jr​
 

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"He who passively accepts evil
is as much involved in it
as he who helps to perpetrate it.
He who accepts evil
without protesting against it
is really cooperating with it."
- Martin Luther King. Jr​
In My Personal Humble Opinion / Without Prejudice / With All Due Respect

My Dear q,
Did you lose the page that we were on? Guess so. Still no "original" thoughts as I so politely requested. Must be time for bed because you've had such a trying day.
Sleep well.
Regards,
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In My Personal Humble Opinion / Without Prejudice / With All Due Respect

My Dear q,
Did you lose the page that we were on? Guess so. Still no "original" thoughts as I so politely requested. Must be time for bed because you've had such a trying day.
Sleep well.
Regards,
scratch


YOUR ABOUT AS FUNNY AS THIS KID IN FACT I THINK THIS IS YOU
 
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YOUR ABOUT AS FUNNY AS THIS KID IN FACT I THINK THIS IS YOU

My Dear q,
Caps are considered screaming in this Forum. Brush up on the rules. On a scale of 1-10 I would give the vid a 2. By the way if you spelled correctly more members would understand you. But as pitiful as your statement is at least it wasn't a link or download.
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My Dear q,
Caps are considered screaming in this Forum. Brush up on the rules. On a scale of 1-10 I would give the vid a 2. By the way if you spelled correctly more members would understand you. But as pitiful as your statement is at least it wasn't a link or download.
Regards,
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look scratch as much as you think that i give a dam about you tutoring ,i couldn't care less about you, your thoughts on me, your reputation in CC ,or the fact that you think that your more intelligent , or that you have been following me around ,from thread to thread placing your hopeless critics in all, is your life so empty pal that you feel that you have to big your self up by this process, you really are a delusional fellow ain't you


 

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<H1>Explosions
Reports of Sights and Sounds of Explosions in the Oral Histories

The oral histories released on August 12, 2005 contain many recollections of the sights and sounds of explosions. The excerpts on this page describe perceptions of the South Tower collapse, except where noted otherwise.

Rich Banaciski -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22][/SIZE] We were there I don't know, maybe 10, 15 minutes and then I just remember there was just an explosion. It seemed like on television they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 12/06/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Brian Becker -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 28][/SIZE] So I think that the building was really kind of starting to melt. We were -- like, the melt down was beginning. The collapse hadn't begun, but it was not a fire any more up there. It was like -- it was like that -- like smoke explosion on a tremendous scale going on up there. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/09/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Greg Brady -- [SIZE=-1]E.M.T. (E.M.S.) [Battalion 6][/SIZE] We were standing underneath and Captain Stone was speaking again. We heard -- I heard 3 loud explosions. I look up and the north tower is coming down now, 1 World Trade Center.
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We were standing in a circle in the middle of West Street. They were talking about what was going on. At that time, when I heard the 3 loud explosions, I started running west on Vesey Street towards the water. At that time, I couldn't run fast enough. The debris caught up with me, knocked my helmet off. [SIZE=-1]Interview, , New York Times [/SIZE]
Timothy Burke -- [SIZE=-1]Firefigter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 202][/SIZE] Then the building popped, lower than the fire, which I learned was I guess, the aviation fuel fell into the pit, and whatever floor it fell on heated up really bad and that's why it popped at that floor. That's the rumor I heard. But it seemed like I was going oh, my god, there is a secondary device because the way the building popped. I thought it was an explosion. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 01/22/02, New York Times [/SIZE]
Ed Cachia -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 53][/SIZE] It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit, because we originally had thought there was like an internal detonation explosives because it went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down. With that everybody was just stunned for a second or two, looking at the tower coming down. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 12/06/05, New York Times [/SIZE]
Frank Campagna -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 11][/SIZE] There was nobody in the intersection, nobody in the streets in general, everyone just saying come on, keeping coming, keep coming. That's when [the North Tower] went. I looked back. You see three explosions and then the whole thing coming down. I turned my head and everybody was scattering. From there I don't know who was who. I don't even know where my guys went. None of us knew where each other were at at that point in time. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 12/04/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Craig Carlsen -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 8][/SIZE] I guess about three minutes later you just heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. At the time I didn't realize what it was. We realized later after talking and finding out that it was the floors collapsing to where the plane had hit.
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You did hear the explosions [when the North Tower came down]. Of course after the first one -- the first one was pretty much looking at in like in awe. You didn't realize that this was really happening because you kind of just stood there and you didn't react as fast as you thought you were going to. The second one coming down, you knew the explosions. Now you're very familiar with it. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 01/25/02, New York Times [/SIZE]
Jason Charles -- [SIZE=-1]E.M.T. (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] I grabbed her and the Lieutenant picked her up by the legs and we start walking over slowly to the curb, and then I heard an explosion from up, from up above, and I froze and I was like, oh, s___, I'm dead because I thought the debris was going to hit me in the head and that was it.
Then everybody stops and looks at the building and they they take off. The Lieutenant dropped her legs and ran. The triage center, everybody who was sitting there hurt and, oh, you know, help me, they got up and and everybody together got up and ran. I looked at them like why are they running? I look over my shoulder and I says, oh, s___, and then I turned around and looked up and that's when I saw the tower coming down.
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North Tower:
We start walking back there and then I heard a ground level explosion and I'm like holy s___, and then you heard that twisting metal wreckage again. Then I said s___ and everybody started running and I started running behind them, and we get to the door. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 01/23/02, New York Times [/SIZE]
Frank Cruthers -- [SIZE=-1]Chief (F.D.N.Y.) [Citywide Tour Commander][/SIZE] And while I was still in that immediate area, the south tower, 2 World Trade Center, there was what appeared to be at first an explosion. It appeared at the very top, simultaneously from all four sides, materials shot out horizontally. And then there seemed to be a momentary delay before you could see the beginning of the collapse. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/31/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
James Curran -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] A guy started scremaing to run. When I got underneath the north bridge I looked back and you heard it, I heard like every floor went chu-chu-chu. Looked back and from the pressure everything was getting blown out of the floors before it actually collapsed. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 12/30/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Kevin Darnowski -- [SIZE=-1]Paramedic (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] I started walking back up towards Vesey Street. I heard three explosions, and then we heard like groaning and grinding, and tower two started to come down. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 11/09/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Dominick Derubbio -- [SIZE=-1]Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.) [Division 8][/SIZE] After a while we were looking up at the tower, and all of a sudden someone said it's starting to come down.
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This would be the first one.
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This one here. It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion, but I guess it was just the floors starting to pancake one on top of the other. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/12/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Karin Deshore -- [SIZE=-1]Captain (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] Somewhere around the middle of the World Trade Center, there was this orange and red flash coming out. Initially it was just one flash. Then this flash just kept popping all the way around the building and that building had started to explode. The popping sound, and with each popping sound it was initially an orange and then a red flash came out of the building and then it would just go all around the building on both sides as far as I could see. These popping sounds and the explosions were getting bigger, going both up and down and then all around the building. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 11/07/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Brian Dixon -- [SIZE=-1]Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] I was watching the fire, watching the people jump and hearing a noise and looking up and seeing -- it actually looked -- the lowest floor of fire in the south tower actually looked like someone had planted explosives around it because the whole bottom I could see -- I could see two sides of it and the other side -- it just looked like that floor blew out. I looked up and you could actually see everything blew out on the one floor. I thought, geez, this looks like an explosion up there, it blew out. Then I guess in some sense of time we looked at it and realized, no, actually it just collapsed. That's what blew out the windows, not that there was an explosion there but that windows blew out. The realization hit that it's going to fall down, the top's coming off. I was still thinking -- there was never a thought that this whole thing is coming down. I thought that that blew out and stuff is starting to fly down. The top is going to topple off there. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/25/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Michael Donovan -- [SIZE=-1]Captain (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] Anyway, with that I was listening, and there was an incredibly loud rumbling. I never got to look up. People started running for the entrances to the parking garages. They started running for the entrances. I started running without ever looking up. The roar became tremendous. I fell on the way to the parking garages. Debris was starting to fall all around me. I got up, I got into the parking garages, was knocked down by the percussion. I thought there had been an explosion or a bomb that they had blown up there. The Vista International Hotel was my first impression, that they had blown it up. I never got to see the World Trade Center coming down. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 11/09/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
James Drury -- [SIZE=-1]Assistant Commissioner (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] We were in the process of getting some rigs moved when I turned, as I heard a tremendous roar, explosion, and saw that the first of the two towers was starting to come down.
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When the dust started to settle, I headed back down towards the World Trade Center and I guess I came close to arriving at the corner of Vesey and West again where we started to hear the second roar. That was the north tower now coming down. I should say that people in the street and myself included thought that the roar was so loud that the explosive - bombs were going off inside the building. Obviously we were later proved wrong.
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The sight of the jumpers was horrible and the turning around and seeing that first tower come down was unbelieveable. The sound it made. As I said I thought the terrorists planted explosives somewhere in the building. That's how loud it was, crackling explosive, a wall. That's about it. Any questions? [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/16/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Thomas Fitzpatrick -- [SIZE=-1]Deputy Commissioner for Administration (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] We looked up at the building straight up, we were that close. All we saw was a puff of smoke coming from about 2 thirds of the way up. Some people thought it was an explosion. I don't think I remember that. I remember seeing it, it looked like sparkling around one specific layer of the building. I assume now that that was either windows starting to collapse like tinsel or something. Then the building started to come down. My initial reaction was that this was exactly the way it looks when they show you those implosions on TV. I would have to say for three or four seconds anyway, maybe longer. I was just watching. It was interesting to watch, but the thing that woke everybody up was the cloud of black material. It reminded me of the 10 commandments when the green clouds come down on the street. The black cloud was coming down faster than the building, so whatever was coming down was going to hit the street and it was pretty far out. You knew it wasn't coming right down. Judging from where people were jumping before that, this cloud was much further. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/16/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Gary Gates -- [SIZE=-1]Lieutenant (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] I looked up, and the building exploded, the building that we were very close to, which was one tower. The whole top came off like a volcano.
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So now both towers have been hit by a plane. The north tower was burning. So the explosion, what I realized later, had to be the start of the collapse. It was the way the building appeared to blowout from both sides. I'm looking at the face of it, and all we see is the two sides of the building just blowing out and coming apart like this, as I said, like the top of a volcano. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/12/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Kevin Gorman -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22][/SIZE] North Tower:
John Malley, who was right behind me, I turned around for him, because he was doing something, either putting his coat on or something, and as I was looking at him I heard the explosion, looked up, and saw like three floors explode, saw the antenna coming down, and turned around and ran north. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 01/09/02, New York Times [/SIZE]
Stephen Gregory -- [SIZE=-1]Assistant Commissioner (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] We both for whatever reason -- again, I don't know how valid this is with everything that was going on at that particular point in time, but for some reason I thought that when I looked in the direction of the Trade Center before it came down, before No. 2 came down, that I saw low-level flashes. In my conversation with Lieutenant Evangelista, never mentioning this to him, he questioned me and asked me if I saw low-level flashes in front of the building, and I agreed with him because I thought -- at that time I didn't know what it was. I mean, it could have been as a result of the building collapsing, things exploding, but I saw a flash flash flash and then it looked like the building came down.
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[It was at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building, how when they blow up a building, when it falls down? That's what I thought I saw.
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He said did you see anything by the building? And I said what do you mean by see anything? He said did you see flashes? I said, yes, well, I thought it was just me. He said no, I saw them too.
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I know about the explosion on the upper floors. This was like at eye level. I didn't have to go like this. Because I was looking this way. I'm not going to say it was on the first floor or the second floor, but somewhere in that area I saw to me what appeared to be flashes. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/03/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Gregg Hansson -- [SIZE=-1]Lieutenant (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] That's basically where we were. Then a large explosion took place. In my estimation that was the tower coming down, but at that time I did not know what that was. I thought some type of bomb had gone off. I was, I believe, ahead of the rest of the firefighters and officers there. I made it to the corner, and I took about four running steps this way when you could feel the rush of the wind coming at you. I believed that that was a huge fireball coming at the time. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/09/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Timothy Julian -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 118][/SIZE] We came out from 90 West, made a left, headed east, and right when we got to the corner of Washington and Albany, that's when I heard the building collapse.
First I thought it was an explosion. I thought maybe there was bomb on the plane, but delayed type of thing, you know secondary device.
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You know, and I just heard like an explosion and then cracking type of noise, and then it sounded like a freight train, rumbling and picking up speed, and I remember I looked up, and I saw it coming down. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 12/26/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Art Lakiotes -- [SIZE=-1]Chief (F.D.N.Y.) [Safety Command][/SIZE] Tower one now comes down. Same thing but this time some of us take off straight down West Street, because we realized later on, subconsciously we wanted to be near buildings. We all thought it was secondary explosives or more planes or whatever. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 12/03/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
John Malley -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 22][/SIZE] We were walking into darkness. As we walked through those revolving doors, that's when we felt the rumble. I felt the rumbling, and then I felt the force coming at me. I was like, what the hell is that? In my mind it was a bomb going off. The pressure got so great, I stepped back behind the columns separating the revolving doors. Then the force just blew past me. It blew past me it seemed for a long time. In my mind I was saying what the hell is this and when is it going to stop? Then it finally stopped, that pressure which I thought was a concussion of an explosion. It turns out it was the down pressure wind of the floors collapsing on top of each other. At that point everything went black, and then the collapse came. It just rained on top of us. Everything came. It rained debris forever. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 12/12/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Julio Marrero -- [SIZE=-1]E.M.T. (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] I was screaming from the top of my lungs, and I must have been about ten feet away from her and she couldn't even hear me, because the building was so loud, the explosion, that she couldn't even hear me. I just saw everybody running; and she saw us running, and she took off behind us. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/25/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Orlando Martinez -- [SIZE=-1]E.M.T. (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] There was an explosion and after we started running, I was able to make it to Chambers and West, where I only saw one EMT, EMT Vega. She is new here. She was the only EMT I saw from the station and with all the cops and everybody else running, rescue workers. I grabbed her and I said just stay with me. We will try to get out of here. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 11/01/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Linda McCarthy -- [SIZE=-1]E.M.T. (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] So when that one went down. I thought the plane was exploding, or another plane hit. I had no idea it was coming down. But I couldn't see it gone, because I couldn't see it really in the first place with all the smoke. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 11/28/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
James McKinley -- [SIZE=-1]E.M.T. (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] After that I heard this huge explosion, I thought it was a boiler exploding or something. Next thing you know this huge cloud of smoke is coming at us, so we're running. Everyone is, firemen, PD, everyone is running away from the World Trade Center, up Vessey Street. This is North End, we was running around Vessey and around North end to get away from the first smoke. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/12/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Joseph Meola -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 91][/SIZE] As we are looking up at the building, what I saw was, it looked like the building was blowing out on all four sides. We actually heard the pops. Didn't realize it was the falling -- you know, you heard the pops of the building. You thought it was just blowing out. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 12/11/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Keith Murphy -- [SIZE=-1](F.D.N.Y.) [][/SIZE] I was standing kind of on the edge of where our elevator bank met the big elevator bank. That was when the - I determined that's when the north tower collapses. We are standing there and the first thing that happened, which I still think is strange to me, the lights went out. Completely pitch black. Since we are in that core little area of the building, there is no natural light. No nothing, I didn't see a thing.
I had heard right before the lights went out, I had heard a distant boom boom boom, sounded like three explosions. I don't know what it was. At the time, I would have said they sounded like bombs, but it was boom boom boom and then the lights all go out. I hear someone say oh, s___, that was just for the lights out. I would say about 3, 4 seconds, all of a sudden this tremendous roar. It sounded like being in a tunnel with the train coming at you. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 12/05/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Kevin Murray -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.) [Ladder 18][/SIZE] When the tower started -- there was a big explosion that I heard and someone screamed that it was coming down and I looked away and I saw all the windows domino -- you know, dominoeing up and then come down. We were right in front of 6, so we started running and how are you going to outrun the World Trade Center? So we threw our tools and I dove under a rig. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/09/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Janice Olszewski -- [SIZE=-1]Captain (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] I thought more could be happening down there. I didn't know if it was an explosion. I didn't know it was a collapse at that point. I thought it was an explosion or a secondary device, a bomb, the jet -- plane exploding, whatever. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 11/07/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Juan Rios -- [SIZE=-1]E.M.T. (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] I was in the back waiting, you know, so we could wait for patients and I was hooking up the regulator to the O-2, when I hear people screaming and a loud explosion, and I heard like "sssssssss..." the dust like "sssssssss..." So I come out of the bus, and I look and I see a big cloud of dust and debris coming from the glass... [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/10/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Michael Ober -- [SIZE=-1]E.M.T. (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] Then we heard a rumble, some twisting metal, we looked up in the air, and to be totally honest, at first, I don't know exactly -- but it looked to me just like an explosion. It didn't look like the building was coming down, it looked like just one floor had blown completely outside of it. I was sitting there looking at it. I just never thought they would ever come down, so I didn't think they were coming down. I just froze and stood there looking at it. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/16/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Angel Rivera -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] Mike Mullan walked one flight up, and then the most horrendous thing happened. That's when hell came down. It was like a huge, enormous explosion. I still can hear it. Everything shook. Everything went black. The wind rushed, very slowly [sound], all the dust, all the -- and everything went dark. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 01/22/02, New York Times [/SIZE]
Daniel Rivera -- [SIZE=-1]Paramedic (E.M.S.) [Battalion 31][/SIZE] Then that's when -- I kept on walking close to the south tower, and that's when that building collapsed.
...
It was a frigging noise. At first I thought it was -- do you ever see professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop"? That's exactly what -- because I thought it was that. When I heard that frigging noise, that's when I saw the building coming down. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/10/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Kennith Rogers -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] Meanwhile we were standing there with about five companies and we were just waiting for our assignment and then there was an explosion in the south tower, which, according to this map, this exposure just blew out the flames. A lot of guys left at that point. I kept watching. Floor after floor after floor. One floor under another after another and when it hit about the fifth floor, I figured it was a bomb, because it looked like a synchronized deliberate kind of thing. I was there in '93. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 12/10/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Patrick Scaringello -- [SIZE=-1]Lieutenant (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] I started to treat patients on my own when I heard the explosion from up above. I looked up, I saw smoke and flame and then I saw the top tower tilt, start to twist and lean.
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I was assisting in pulling more people out from debris, when I heard the second tower explode. When I tried to evacuate the area, by running up Fulton, got halfway up. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/10/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Mark Steffens -- [SIZE=-1]Division Chief (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] Then there was another it sounded like an explosion and heavy white powder, papers, flying everywhere. We sat put there for a few minutes. It kind of dissipated.
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That's when we heard this massive explosion and I saw this thing rolling towards us. It looked like a fireball and then thick, thick black smoke. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/03/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
John Sudnik -- [SIZE=-1]Battalion Chief (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] The best I can remember, we were just operating there, trying to help out and do the best we could. Then we heard a loud explosion or what sounded like a loud explosion and looked up and I saw tower two start coming down. Crazy. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 11/07/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Neil Sweeting -- [SIZE=-1]Paramedic (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] You heard a big boom, it was quiet for about ten seconds. Then you could hear another one. Now I realize it was the floors starting to stack on top of each other as they were falling. It was spaced apart in the beginning, but then it got to just a tremendous roar and a rumble that I will never forget. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 11/01/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Jay Swithers -- [SIZE=-1]Captain (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] At that point I looked back and most of the people who were triaged in that area with the triage tags on them got up and ran. I took a quick glance at the building and while I didn't see it falling, I saw a large section of it blasting out, which led me to believe it was just an explosion. I thought it was a secondary device, but I knew that we had to go.
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Within a few moments, I regrouped with Bruce Medjuck and I asked him to tell them on the radio to send us MTA buses to get people out. That didn't happen. But one thing that did happen was an ambulance pulled up which was very clean. So I assumed that the vehicle had not been in the - what I thought was an explosion at the time, but was the first collapse. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/30/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
David Timothy -- [SIZE=-1]E.M.T. (E.M.S.)[/SIZE] The next thing I knew, you started hearing more explosions. I guess this is when the second tower started coming down. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/25/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Albert Turi -- [SIZE=-1]Deputy Assistant Chief (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] The next thing I heard was Pete say what the f___ is this? And as my eyes traveled up the building, and I was looking at the south tower, somewhere about halfway up, my initial reaction was there was a secondary explosion, and the entire floor area, a ring right around the building blew out. I later realized that the building had started to collapse already and this was the air being compressed and that is the floor that let go. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 10/23/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
Thomas Turilli -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] The door closed, they went up, and it just seemed a couple of seconds and all of a sudden you just heard it, it almost actually that day sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like seven or eight, and then just a huge wind gust just came and my officer just actually took all of us and just threw us down on the ground and kind of just jumped on top of us, laid on top of us.
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At that point were were kind of standing on the street and I looked to my left and actually I noticed the tower was down. I didn't even know that it was when we were in there. It just seemed like a huge explosion. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 01/17/02, New York Times [/SIZE]
Stephen Viola -- [SIZE=-1]Firefighter (F.D.N.Y.)[/SIZE] Our guy went in with 13 truck, and he was coming down with the guy from 13 truck to bring the elevator to us, and when he was either going up or coming down the elevator, that's when the south tower collapsed, and it sounded like a bunch of explosions. You heard like loud booms, but I guess it was all just stuff coming down, and then we got covered with rubble and dust, and I thought we'd actually fallen through the floor into like the PATH tubes, because it was so dark you couldn't see anything, and from there it was a little hazy from there on. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 01/10/02, New York Times [/SIZE]
William Wall -- [SIZE=-1]Lieutenant (F.D.N.Y.) [Engine 47][/SIZE] At that time, we heard an explosion. We looked up and the building was coming down right on top of us, so we ran up West Street. We ran a little bit and then we were overtaken by the cloud and we hid behind a white Suburban.
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Oh, when we came out of the building and we were walking across West Street when we first got out of the building, we're walking across the street and all you heard was like bombs going off above your head. You couldn't see it. It was just cloudy. And we found out later it was the military jets. That was an eerie sound. You couldn't see it and all you heard was like a "boom" and it just kept going. We couldn't see 50 feet above our head because of the dust. So we didn't know if it was bombs going off or whatever, but we didn't want to stay there. [SIZE=-1]Interview, 12/10/01, New York Times [/SIZE]
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http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/oralhistories/explosions.html

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look scratch as much as you think that i give a dam about you tutoring ,i couldn't care less about you, your thoughts on me, your reputation in CC ,or the fact that you think that your more intelligent , or that you have been following me around ,from thread to thread placing your hopeless critics in all, is your life so empty pal that you feel that you have to big your self up by this process, you really are a delusional fellow ain't you



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Gov't says FBI agents can't testify about 9/11

NEW YORK: Government lawyers say the ongoing investigation into the Sept. 11 attacks could be compromised if the airline industry is allowed to seek more information from the FBI to defend itself against lawsuits brought by terrorism victims.

In papers filed late Tuesday, the government urged a judge to block aviation companies from interviewing five FBI employees who the companies say will help them prove the government withheld key information before the 2001 attacks.

The lawyers said it would be impossible to interview the employees without disclosing classified or privileged material that could "cause serious damage to national security and interfere with pending law enforcement proceedings."

"The harm described is not hypothetical and cannot be lightly dismissed," according to the court papers submitted by the office of U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia. "Investigators continue to seek out those parties responsible for the 9/11 attacks who remain at large."

The largest investigation in FBI history has resulted in 167,000 interviews and more than 155,000 pieces of evidence and involved the pursuit of 500,000 investigative leads, the lawyers wrote.

They said the aviation lawyers were unrealistic to think the investigation would not be compromised if they speak to the FBI employees.

"In fact, it is not possible to disentangle the classified from the unclassified information in the context of a deposition, where open-ended inquiries may elicit responses in which classified or privileged material is intertwined," they wrote.

So far, the government said, the FBI has turned over more than 33,000 pages of information to the aviation industry lawyers, including more than 10,000 pages of laboratory pictures and related information, witness interviews and descriptions of the hijackers' weapons.

The airlines and aviation companies are defending themselves against lawsuits seeking billions of dollars in damages for injuries, fatalities, property damage and business losses related to the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

The companies filed separate lawsuits against the CIA and the FBI last August to force terrorism investigators to tell whether the aviation industry was to blame for the Sept. 11 attacks.

Meanwhile, lawyers for the victims of the attacks agreed that the FBI should not be forced to provide more information. They recounted in court papers numerous hijackings and attacks aboard planes before Sept. 11 that they said should have put the airline industry on notice that a disastrous attack could occur.

Victims' lawyer Donald Migliori said the case was "about one thing and one thing only — the security failures at three of this country's largest airports that morning." Terrorists launched the Sept. 11 attacks by hijacking planes from Boston's Logan International Airport, Washington's Dulles International Airport and Newark International Airport in New Jersey.

Migliori said the airline industry was "trying to create a smoke screen by suggesting that if the FBI expressed more to the aviation defendants directly then it wouldn't have happened." He said the victims were eager to go to trial.

"We want these families in the courtroom so they can move on with their lives and get answers," he said.

A lawyer for the airline industry did not immediately return a phone message for comment Wednesday
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