The "Bear" Facts

karrie

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I have no guns, so, I'd have likely had to watch my dog die, while I called for a wildlife officer.
 

lone wolf

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Shotgun???? He's lucky to have had something big enough to load it. Birdshot would have really pissed off the ba'ar! To protect my dog? Damned right! The dog would do it for me....
 

karrie

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Not to mention wolf, if a bear comes into a yard and attacks a dog, it indicates a lack of fear that can be very dangerous for people living around the area. I'd have had no qualms about killing it.... just don't have the means.
 

lone wolf

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Not to mention wolf, if a bear comes into a yard and attacks a dog, it indicates a lack of fear that can be very dangerous for people living around the area. I'd have had no qualms about killing it.... just don't have the means.

We have that happening all over Ontario now.... Bears are a problem. Okay, there are good arguments about man's infiltration into bear territory - compounded by people who always seem to cross paths with a bruin. Ontario is sticking to its guns about no spring hunt. As long as they listen to well-meaning but ill-informed environmental do-gooders, bears and man are going to be coming to odds more and more often.

Now we have no spring hunt because a few cubs always end up orphaned - and what is more pitiful? "Poor orphan bear cub" does not equate to Teddy. A sow bear will generally adopt it anyhow. Bears are a lot more social than human animals. With the hunt went the means to teach them the safety of the bush. Cubs don't learn the fear of man. They learn man is an easy source of food. That creates nuisance bears - especially when berry crops fail. Now, there are bears migrating back into that place where man lives.

Contrary to what university educated bear experts will tell you - to save both face and government esteem - First Nations knew enough to hunt the bear in spring. It taught the cubs respect for man. It taught them: behave in the place man lives. Isn't it about time we learned something from the people who know the ways of the land?

I know how to get the spring hunt back.... Instead of delivering a few of those of rogue bears back out to the boonies, take a breeding pair and release them in the Don and Humber valleys. When some yuppie piddles on his Nikes while being chased by a bear in Metro - you can pretty much guarantee there'll be a spring bear hunt....
 
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shadowshiv

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Wow. Amazing how many people in the comment section are saying "poor bear, evil man". Pretty bad when some people would rather a human get killed than a bear.8O
 

karrie

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Wow. Amazing how many people in the comment section are saying "poor bear, evil man". Pretty bad when some people would rather a human get killed than a bear.8O

well, the man wasn't really at risk, I think that's where a lot of people get ticked.
 

shadowshiv

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well, the man wasn't really at risk, I think that's where a lot of people get ticked.

But how can they say he wasn't at risk? Were any of them there? Whether or not he wasn't at risk at that exact moment should have no bearing(no pun intended) on whether or not he shot the bear. The perceived risk was there, and if the bear visits once, it will visit again. Perhaps next time it will be a young child there instead?

I just think that there are some anti-hunting people(and this certainly does not go for all of them) that feel that there should always be "some other way" rather than shooting the animal. Sometimes there just isn't.
 

karrie

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Apparently those folks don't know a lot about bear etiquette....

Woof!

I went on a quad tour in Whistler once. The tour guide stopped as we came across a sow and her cubs, and I said, 'please, let's go back the way we came.'

He says to me 'don't worry, if you don't bother them, they won't bother you.' At which point I told him he was full of sh-t. I pointed out that I'd lived 'in the wilderness' for years, and this stupid notion that animals only cause problems because of people is such utter bull, that it drives me insane. These sorts of people are the kind who don't hesitate to head into the bush with their dogs running loose, because bears are benevolent and kind in their altered little universe.
 

lone wolf

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I went on a quad tour in Whistler once. The tour guide stopped as we came across a sow and her cubs, and I said, 'please, let's go back the way we came.'

He says to me 'don't worry, if you don't bother them, they won't bother you.' At which point I told him he was full of sh-t. I pointed out that I'd lived 'in the wilderness' for years, and this stupid notion that animals only cause problems because of people is such utter bull, that it drives me insane. These sorts of people are the kind who don't hesitate to head into the bush with their dogs running loose, because bears are benevolent and kind in their altered little universe.

Isn't it incredible that some folks are wise enough to let the old air out before they take a fresh breath. I know from experience that a bear can outrun a cat!
 

Nuggler

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:angry3: I have never been a bear hunter, but it's ok with me, even baiting. No problem.

Herr Hairass canceled the spring hunt ONLY to garner votes from the 905 area.

I would like to drive him naked, covered in rotten meat and honey through the bush. Any bush.

Waddya think now , Neoturd.?? Hey, it "probably" won't hurt ya.............oooops, spoke to soon. :pirate:arghhh;.

8O