Everyone should be equal. Therefore, since you have more rice in your pantry the gov't should force you to give the difference to me. And I probably have more stout in my fridge than you so I should be forced to give you some.
Nationalize Canadian oil reserves!!!!
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Gerryh, don't be so sure. Crisis is a word which demands solutions, and at a moment of extreme energy shortages, that is a National crisis which if it isn't addressed correctly it can brake up a country and send it in to a civil war. To affectively combat stupid gas prices, the North American Governments should build additional oil refinery's to support the energy use here in North America and not allow OPEC be GOD, while subjecting ordinary people to pay for gas and if they have money left over they can buy food. What a stupid life.
Ontario and Quebec? More like Toronto and Quebec who run the show. Why do you think Ontario Northland was built and parallell four-lane highways ARE now? Unfortunately as part of Ontario, the North has to share our gold, silver, iron, nickel, copper, water, lumber - but they won't share the wealth....
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L Gilbert, force is a strong word. In a moment of a National Crisis there is a code all citizens are subjected too. That code is called (SURVIVAL), when conditions are placed before survival than we see a brake out of a civil war.
The great hypocrisies lone wolf "what works for me should be good for me and not anyone else"
I use your resources but keep your hands off of mine!
Try this on for size, bud: What about heating with electricity from nuclear power (or solar panels for that matter), aided with a wood burning stove....
Doesn't look like it would take 100 years....
And using your logic (or lack thereof) shouldn't you also blame McSquinty and the Fiberals in queens park, too?
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Risus, you are not offering solutions here, all you are doing is knocking Socrates, comparing the Snow White scum bags with the Liberals and the truth here is Risus, Canadians are reaching the point of getting pissed off with your idiot loser Government in Ottawa but you seem to think that everything is every one else’s fault except the Cons. You will not like the results in the coming up election my friend.
It doesn’t matter what the Libs did in the past. Don’t forget that the Cons were on their knees bagging Canadians for a chance to govern clean and all these f uckers are dirtier than the Libs, I suppose that doesn’t register on your radar dose it? Of course not.
Gov't can't tie its shoelaces properly nor do it without forming multiple committees to study the situation. Alberta gets cranky and pulls its treasury shut against the feds and the country folds up like the hot air balloon that central Canada is. I just hope that BC has the beans to side with AB if/when it happens. BC's the gateway to the entire Pacific. Without AB and BC the feds are just so much riffraff to be made jokes of. hmmm Sorry, I guess they are jokes now. Well, you know what I mean.
If the feds try anything even close to the old NEP or what socrates is suggesting, it's pretty well a gaurantee that that is exactley what Alberta will do.
What we would probably see is at least BC, ALberta and Saskatchewan forming a union of some kind. I would think that the Yukon and Manitoba would be big maybe's.
What Gerry, you don't want the diamonds and gold in the NWT to go along with your dreamworld? Ok, we'll take it in the east. We'll take Nunavut.too if that's Ok. That Northwest Passage is going to be one lucrative trading route soon.
Why don't the west do it and get it over with. Hanging this crock over the heads of the rest of the country is BS. Quebec does the same bloody thing. You think you can hold the country for ransom? If you wanna leave...be my guest and go already. This Canadian is tired of you pockets of dissenters who regionalize yourselves with no regard for national unity. Lets do the deed and bring the different regions into focus so we can get on with governing without worrying about who we might offend. No wonder this country doesn't work. We're like a bunch of unruly children on the playground. It's my bat and my ball and I'm going home....selfish mf's. And there's not a politician in Ottawa (left or right) who will step up to the plate and do what's right for the country. They're all worried about their precious image or greasing their slippery palms or behaving like Mini Me for the great U.S of eh.
We are about to see a severe shift in the transportation sector anyway. In 10 years oil will be greatly reduced as the primary means of fueling our vehicles. It's already started with GM shutting down their truck and SUV plant in Oshawa. Who wants to run these gas guzzling behemoths anymore at todays prices? Next summer India will come out with a French-made vehicle that runs on compressed air. It can get 128km on a $2 fill. http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4217016.html
Be very afraid my friend. What's the west to do if they are on their own with no means to sell their black gold? Your only customer will be the US military and they are already looking into alternative fuel sources for their war machines. If you read the link, it's about 3/4 of the way down the page. http://www.peak-oil-news.info/military-oil-usage-statistics/
You might want to give it some serious thought before you go off at the lip about separation. In 30 years, when your Heritage Fund has dwindled to pennies because you've spent it on infrastructure upkeep and your farmland has dried up because you've upset the ecosystem with your unnatural water usage, you'll be damn proud the east is still kind enough to send you a fish or two to fill your ungrateful bellies. Think of the children Gerry....
Why don't the west do it and get it over with. Hanging this crock over the heads of the rest of the country is BS. Quebec does the same bloody thing. You think you can hold the country for ransom? If you wanna leave...be my guest and go already. This Canadian is tired of you pockets of dissenters who regionalize yourselves with no regard for national unity. Lets do the deed and bring the different regions into focus so we can get on with governing without worrying about who we might offend. No wonder this country doesn't work. We're like a bunch of unruly children on the playground. It's my bat and my ball and I'm going home....selfish mf's. And there's not a politician in Ottawa (left or right) who will step up to the plate and do what's right for the country. They're all worried about their precious image or greasing their slippery palms or behaving like Mini Me for the great U.S of eh.
We are about to see a severe shift in the transportation sector anyway. In 10 years oil will be greatly reduced as the primary means of fueling our vehicles. It's already started with GM shutting down their truck and SUV plant in Oshawa. Who wants to run these gas guzzling behemoths anymore at todays prices? Next summer India will come out with a French-made vehicle that runs on compressed air. It can get 128km on a $2 fill. http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4217016.html
Be very afraid my friend. What's the west to do if they are on their own with no means to sell their black gold? Your only customer will be the US military and they are already looking into alternative fuel sources for their war machines. If you read the link, it's about 3/4 of the way down the page. http://www.peak-oil-news.info/military-oil-usage-statistics/
You might want to give it some serious thought before you go off at the lip about separation. In 30 years, when your Heritage Fund has dwindled to pennies because you've spent it on infrastructure upkeep and your farmland has dried up because you've upset the ecosystem with your unnatural water usage, you'll be damn proud the east is still kind enough to send you a fish or two to fill your ungrateful bellies. Think of the children Gerry....
Wouldn’t that be something, although the future is looking as it is being suggested. I don’t want Canada to brake up because of energy stupidity. I simply want our country to prosper inclusively. Not some Ellet greedy a-holes who feel 100 for them and 1 for us Canadians.
The Libs will have to rethink their position on that, should they get as stupid as the Cons on the very issue of energy they will find them self’s up sh t creak like the Cons. You seem to think that I want the Liberals in so everything will be fine. I have never suggested such ludicrous solution. The long of it and the short of it is that we are in a recession and the economy is the number one and foremost priority for Canadians. Not Harpocon stupid weasel politics.
As opposed to the stupider politics which the liberals had and the non-existant NDPers? Give me a break. You can't see beyond the end of your nose. But I'll say this, you have a one track mind, unfortunately the track is heading in the wrong direction...
Could look at it the way I do; that politics in Canada has been stupid since Canada's birth.
Anyway, if resources are nationalised, then Joe Lunchbucket on a farm near Moosejaw should have just as much say over fisheries as Susan Haida on BC's coast. Vice versa about wheat. Bloody silly idea.
Anyway, if resources are nationalised, then Joe Lunchbucket on a farm near Moosejaw should have just as much say over fisheries as Susan Haida on BC's coast. Vice versa about wheat. Bloody silly idea.
Do you always go off half cocked?
I never said I supported sepperation, I have just stated the obvious, and if you don't think it's a very real possibility if the feds try to bring in an NEP type strategy then you are living in la la land my friend.
You apparently live in Edmonton, why don't you do a little unofficial poll and ask around what people in Edmonton would think of the feds nationalising our oil reserves and industry. See what the general consensus is.
As for your links...did you even bother reading them? Here's an excerpt from the air-car:
As for the american military, try reading it again. They are not talking about changes that will happen in the next 10 or even 20 years. Do you have ANY idea how long it takes a ship to go from drawing board to dry dock? Or an aircraft from the drafting table to actual production? Especially since we are talking about a LOT of new technology.:roll:
Oil will be around for quite awhile still, and with prices predicted to go to $200/barrel, the revenues Alberta will collect will do us quite nicely for sometime to come. Plus, if you notice, the american airforce is testing an engine that runs on a synthetic fuel made from coal and natural gas. You have noticed that Alberta has a fair amount of that too haven't you?
Hey Risus, I can see miles past my nose especially when I smell the dirty CON hands coming my way. Trust me brother the CONS are bad for your health. The good thing about me Risus I am not a follower I had for many years more than 5 people work for me for over 15 years. My sister is a psychiatrist, she has confirmed to me that my mind is multi track; I am not sure how you arrive at your assessment.
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