Security firm employee killed by Canadian convoy in Afghanistan

Praxius

Mass'Debater
Dec 18, 2007
10,677
161
63
Halifax, NS & Melbourne, VIC
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/04/03/afghan.html

A private security employee was killed and three people were injured when a Canadian military convoy fired on their vehicle in southern Afghanistan, the military said Thursday.

The incident occurred around 4 p.m. Wednesday when a provincial reconstruction team was leaving Kandahar airfield on an administrative patrol.

The military said the car was fired at after getting too close to the convoy and ignoring repeated warnings to stop. The injured people were airlifted to the Kandahar airfield hospital for treatment.

"These multiple warnings were not heeded to and a shot fired in direction of the vehicle was required, after which, the vehicle stopped," said Capt. Josée Bilodeau, spokeswoman for Canada's Joint Task Force Afghanistan, in a release.

The name and nationality of the employee has not been released.

The military said it is investigating the incident and offered its condolences to the victim's family.

"Incidents like this one are regrettable,"Bilodeau said. "However, our forces took all reasonable steps to prevent injury to the individuals and to protect themselves."

Compass Security is one of several private security firms operating in the Middle East and Central Asia, particularly Iraq and Afghanistan. It has offices in New York, London, Dubai and Kabul.

The latest incident marks the second time Canadian troops have fired upon a vehicle registered to the company. Seven Afghans were injured in October 2007 when a provincial reconstruction team opened fire on a Compass car outside Kandahar.

Oops.
 

MikeyDB

House Member
Jun 9, 2006
4,612
63
48
Looks good on them!

Simlar events that have resulted in innocent people being killed are pooh poohed away....perhaps this will send the message home.
 

Colpy

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 5, 2005
21,887
848
113
70
Saint John, N.B.
Looks good on them!

Simlar events that have resulted in innocent people being killed are pooh poohed away....perhaps this will send the message home.


A shame, but.....

Natural selection....

If you are so stupid as to approach a military convoy in Afghanistan, ignoring repeated orders to halt, you are too stupid to be allowed to survive long enough to breed.

What is wrong with these people?

A good indication to the Afghan people thereabouts that they are NOT being targeted for who they are........
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
A shame, but.....

Natural selection....

If you are so stupid as to approach a military convoy in Afghanistan, ignoring repeated orders to halt, you are too stupid to be allowed to survive long enough to breed.

What is wrong with these people?

A good indication to the Afghan people thereabouts that they are NOT being targeted for who they are........

Just like the Americans hosing down that Italian car in Iraq.
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
There's a difference.... our troops on both occasions gave warnings and they never stopped and thus followed proceedure.... the US troops just blow them up regardless and cover it up by planting weapons on them.

Touché (if you want to play that game)

SUUUUUUUUURE...our troops said the same thing.

Once again...Welcome to the Club!
 

MikeyDB

House Member
Jun 9, 2006
4,612
63
48
It's part of the mercenaries contract I'm sure that if they're dumb enough to invite being shot....that insurance policy probably ain't gonna be honored.

Why is it that we say "private security contractors" when what they really are are mercenaries?
 

#juan

Hall of Fame Member
Aug 30, 2005
18,326
119
63
When you consider that about ninety percent of Canadians killed in Afghanistan have been killed by car bombs, roadside bombs, suicide bombers, there is only one reasonable response to someone who fails to heed warnings to stop when approaching the convoy. I don't think you have to see friends blown up more than once to see the necessity of quick action.
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
When you consider that about ninety percent of Canadians killed in Afghanistan have been killed by car bombs, roadside bombs, suicide bombers, there is only one reasonable response to someone who fails to heed warnings to stop when approaching the convoy. I don't think you have to see friends blown up more than once to see the necessity of quick action.

I agree 100%.

But I see no difference between Canadian or American Soldiers firing on a car. They are all done for the same reason. You can't say... "Trigger Happy Americans" and say "Well our guys gave warnings." US Soldiers give warnings too. They don't want to shoot the wrong people...but they don't want to die either.

Same reasons...
 

MikeyDB

House Member
Jun 9, 2006
4,612
63
48
If a terrorist is someone who believes they're going to "heaven" if they kill the designated "bad-people" and a mercenary is somone who kills the designated bad people because they're being paid.....

What's the difference?
 

#juan

Hall of Fame Member
Aug 30, 2005
18,326
119
63
I agree 100%.

But I see no difference between Canadian or American Soldiers firing on a car. They are all done for the same reason. You can't say... "Trigger Happy Americans" and say "Well our guys gave warnings." US Soldiers give warnings too. They don't want to shoot the wrong people...but they don't want to die either.

Same reasons...

Absolutely right. There is no difference. If somebody wants to approach the convoy they should have a written appointment.........And they should still stop when ordered.
 

MikeyDB

House Member
Jun 9, 2006
4,612
63
48
The ones I've met have testosterone where the brain normally sits.... Coupled with an insatiable greed and adrenaline dependency. Wonderful folk!
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
96
48
USA
Are rent-a-cops really stupider than the real thing?

Woof!

You know what Wolf...they aren't stupid...they're Mavericks. They are armed in a warzone and are making BIG BUCKS.

This is not a post to zing you. Funny how we have to be clear about that sometimes.

They are most likely former military from all over the world. The US isn't the only country that has "Security" companies. They are adventure seekers and in these places are not bound by much law.
 

MikeyDB

House Member
Jun 9, 2006
4,612
63
48
Yes I'd agree with Eagle to some degree but you can't really expect someone who's hired as a Paladin to care a great deal about whether rules of engagement are followed or if some action is likely to give a black-eye to the nations forces. A great deal of senseless bloodshed and actions of dubious moral character have been committed by mercs and although my experience is forty+ years old, I doubt that much has changed.

And yes there are mercs who hire-out to anyones military regardless of the "rightness" or "wrongness" of that particular nations point of view.

It seems just a bit phoney though to legitimize mercs as "private security forces" while torturing and imprisoning people who you claim are "illegal non-combatants".... Kind of a double standard at work here.
 

Praxius

Mass'Debater
Dec 18, 2007
10,677
161
63
Halifax, NS & Melbourne, VIC
I agree 100%.

But I see no difference between Canadian or American Soldiers firing on a car. They are all done for the same reason. You can't say... "Trigger Happy Americans" and say "Well our guys gave warnings." US Soldiers give warnings too. They don't want to shoot the wrong people...but they don't want to die either.

Same reasons...

The only difference is the information provided. If the reports do not state that warnings were issued out, then one can only go by what is given. If it does state that the US, Canadian, or any other troops gave warnings and attempted to prevent the situation from occuring, then once again.... you can only go by supplied information.

The more information provided, the more informed the public can be and the less critism there might be.