Accomplishments of George W Bush

Kreskin

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How can we expect incomes to increase faster than inflation? A company increases it's profits by 1% but is expected to raise wages by 2% on an ongoing basis? How does that work?

100 years ago you would die from half of the medical conditions floating around. You didn't have social safety nets that you could buy more crack with, you were given a shovel and a piece of dirt and told to sink or swim. You didn't watch 40-inch high definition televisions, you found a potato and played catch. You commuted in things people today would sue over in a flash.

Today's urbanites choose to live the way they do. Anyone with nothing that chooses to live in downtown Vancouver is a fool, not a victim.
 

gopher

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My Dear Kreskin --- will you please, please, please, stop equating Bush bashing with USA bashing!!!

Just because one rightfully attacks Bush it does not mean that person is attacking the USA!!!

FOR GOODNESS SAKE, GEORGE BUSH DOES NOT STAND FOR THE USA!!!

When someone condemns Bush's stupidity, it means that person is voicing an opinion about his evils, not about the USA. People whose opinions are like mine represent the majority viewpoint of Americans.

Bush and his warmongering ways only represent a MINORITY!!


Henceforth, please be very clear about this distinction.

 

Kreskin

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``Perspective is correct. The board is full anti-US rants.``



My Dear Kreskin --- will you please, please, please, stop equating Bush bashing with USA bashing!!!

Just because one rightfully attacks Bush it does not mean that person is attacking the USA!!!

FOR GOODNESS SAKE, GEORGE BUSH DOES NOT STAND FOR THE USA!!!

When someone condemns Bush's stupidity, it means that person is voicing an opinion about his evils, not about the USA. People whose opinions are like mine represent the majority viewpoint of Americans.

Bush and his warmongering ways only represent a MINORITY!!


Henceforth, please be very clear about this distinction.

I see a lot of USA bashing, not just GWB. I recently saw someone say the US should be nuked. That's a tough stance if the issue is only with one guy.

Moreso than GWB, it amazes me that so many people can go through life completely negative about every aspect of western society, including waking up and getting out of bed.
 

Hazmart

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Gopher I kind of agree and disagree with your post. Now I don't usually post in political threads because I don't follow politics that closely but what I get you to be saying is that Bush should be looked at as more an individual and criticized as such and the USA in whole should be considered with different standings which kind of makes sense to me and I dislike Bush very much but enjoy the states. However is he not your elected representitive? The majority voted him into office (twice) to speak and act on the USAs behalf. Not only that, he is not working all by himself, these decisions were made by many people and originally excepted by a large portion of the American people. I mean think back to when the Dixie Chicks were criticized for saying that they were embarassed that the President was from their state. Back when the war looked good and people thought that they were being heros. Now that people are no longer optomistic, now its 'thats the presidents doing, not what the people wanted'. You can't have it both ways, can you?
 

gopher

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`` I recently saw someone say the US should be nuked.``


There might be one or two posts on this forum where people have a problem with the USA. But that is rare.

Most people here, like most in the USA, oppose Bush's imperialistic terrorism. That's what I see on this forum: frequent and rightful criticism of Bush, not of the USA.


As for Bush's accomplishments = ZERO!
 

darkbeaver

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Fewest armed conflicts ever: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cach...onflicts+lowest+ever&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=ca

"The End of War? Explaining 15 years of diminishing violence",
Greg Easterbrook, 2005/05/24, The New Republic
Combat in Iraq and in a few
% other places is an exception to a significant global trend that has
% gone nearly unnoticed--namely that, for about 15 years, there have
% been steadily fewer armed conflicts worldwide.

Next consider a wonderful fact: Global military spending is also in
% decline.


Center for Defense
% Information, a nonpartisan Washington research organization.

Combat in Iraq and in a few
% other places is an exception to a significant global trend that has
% gone nearly unnoticed--namely that, for about 15 years, there have
% been steadily fewer armed conflicts worldwide.

They also
% found a steady global rise since the mid-'80s in factors that reduce
% armed conflict--economic prosperity, free elections, stable central
% governments, better communication, more "peacemaking institutions,"
% and increased international engagement.

Of course, 2001 was
% the year of September 11. But, despite the battles in Afghanistan, the
% Philippines, and elsewhere that were ignited by Islamist terrorism and
% the West's response,


"After the first report came out, we wanted to brief some United
% Nations officials, but everyone at the United Nations just laughed at
% us.

How can war be in such decline when evening newscasts are filled with
% images of carnage?


News organizations must
% prominently report fighting, of course. But the fact that we now see
% so many visuals of combat and conflict creates the impression that
% these problems are increasing:

The striking decline in global military spending has also received no
% attention from the press, which continues to promote the notion of a
% world staggering under the weight of instruments of destruction.

Declining global military spending is exactly what one would expect to
% find if war itself were in decline.

Another reason for less war is the rise of peacekeeping. The world
% spends more every year on peacekeeping, and peacekeeping is turning
% out to be an excellent investment.

The spread of democracy has made another significant contribution to
% the decline of war. In 1975, only one-third of the world's nations
% held true multiparty elections; today two-thirds do, and the
% proportion continues to rise. In the last two decades, some 80
% countries have joined the democratic column, while hardly any moved in
% the opposite direction. Increasingly, developing-world leaders observe
% the simple fact that the free nations are the strongest and richest
% ones, and this creates a powerful argument for the expansion of
% freedom.

Swords really are being beaten into
% plowshares and spears into pruning hooks. The world ought to take
% notice.

Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. told the graduating class of Harvard that
% one of the highest expressions of honor was "the faith ... which leads
% a soldier to throw away his life in obedience to a blindly accepted
% duty."Today, no major government appears to believe that war is
% the best path to nationalistic or monetary profit; trade seems much
% more promising.

Gregg Easterbrook is a senior editor at TNR and a visiting fellow at
% the Brookings Institution.

Walter what you need is to stop reading this crap, the article is an appaling pack of lies, rubbish totally unsupportable propaganda. This is not a paper that would pass any objective review, many highschool kids would spot the dung
in the first couple of paragraphs. It's written from the neo-liberal economic perspective that continues to boast about success that does not exist. From the bowles of the Military Industrial Complex itself. Simply put it's drivel of the commonest kind.
Totally unsuported by observable facts and situations, how you could possibly believe such rubbish is beyond imagination. Actually it's frightening. The outlandish claims are so ridiculous as to be comedic.It's not much wonder you have the perspective you do about the environment. You are reading and listening to the machine, you are hopelessly lost my friend.
I have read some others from The Brookings Institute before but this is a classic piece of right neo-con propaganda and nothing more. Everyone of the exerpts pasted above is undeniably wrong. I cannot believe that you are an educated man nay I will not believe that.
 
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Zzarchov

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In many ways it was a better life Kreskin. Homesteaders had a good chance then, better lives than many urbanites endure today. There has not been an increase in real income since the early 70's. Go look it up Kreskin. We have been going backwards for over thirty years and still moving in reverse only faster. We don't own as much as we owe.

Are you familiar with the past at all? The idea that most people own anything is a new concept.

People choose to owe more than they own by and large. They want a house so they buy one and put themselves in debt and then pay it off.

The old system one couldnt' get a loan (unless you were rich) and so never owed more than you owned, which was often nothing. You couldn't buy anything and pay it off, you had to pay for it first. This means you had to pay to rent a substitute until you could save up enough money to buy your own. This rarely occured.

Wages aren't going up because their is more competition for work, all that foriegn aid we sent out? Building schools and sending poor children to be educated in third world hell holes?

Well it worked, now they want to use their education, and so we compete for work.

Its not conspiracy.
 

gopher

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``The majority voted him into office (twice) to speak and act on the USAs behalf.``


Bush did not get the majority vote in the past election. Moreover, the majority have clearly condemned his war. Just look at the landslide victories by the Dems in the past two elections.

True, there was a period in which Bush was viewed as a hero. But that is because the right wingers control the media and fooled people into thinking that he was doing the world a favor. Luckily, that's in the past.

Do you see any pro war rallies anywhere? I certainly don't.

It is, or it should be, clear that Bush speaks for himself, not for the USA. Contrary to what some may want to believe, criticizing Bush is a sign of being pro USA, not anti USA.
 

jimshort19

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Accomplishments? This his second term. I'm not American. He's a public relations disaster. So, why do I love George? He's a religious deludae. So why do I love George... he's American. I guess that's about it.

I love Americans. George is American for sure. That'll have to do.
 

Hazmart

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Kreskin, Yes I guess I agree that it is good that Sassam is gone, but was it worth the cost? Those peoples country is destroyed! It feels like the idea of 'winning' this war is destroyed! Soldiers are dying, civilians are dying, it seems that hatred for the west is growing, the problem is just getting worse.
 

Kreskin

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Kreskin, Yes I guess I agree that it is good that Sassam is gone, but was it worth the cost? Those peoples country is destroyed! It feels like the idea of 'winning' this war is destroyed! Soldiers are dying, civilians are dying, it seems that hatred for the west is growing, the problem is just getting worse.
Time will tell if it was worth the cost. Passing judgment on that now could be early, although we'll never know what kind of grief SH would've caused in the future.
 

jimshort19

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Oh I forgot. It took a lot of conviction to try to save Iraq. Perhaps some bad advice and some naivete as well. The experiment is noble. The experiment is bold. I see it as an experiment however, and that the original hypothesis is on track morally, but off track in terms of methods and candidate. The patient was DOA after 29 years of Saddam. The place is an insane asylum.

It's too bad. You can take a horse to drink, but not a dead horse.