How Many Dead Kids is Enough
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Actually Colpy you are wrong, the carnage is directly connected to the office of that man and therefore directly connected to him, that is the law. That office is the self professed lair of capitalism the greatest killing machine ever to exist, that is a verifiable truth thanks to thier psycopathic need to bill and balance for the carnage. Certainly they may not be responsible for every dead child but luckily the British and the Germans and we Canadians have taken up the slack just to make sure the killing is most efficiently done with the greatest returns possible.
adopts the pose of the subject in Munch's "The Scream" and yells, with cracking voice:
"Won't somebody please think about the kids?"
Pangloss
"Won't somebody please think about the kids?"
Pangloss
Oh WOE...WOE...WOE...WOE
In 18 months I'll be starving and moving from town to town through the 21 Century Dust Bowl...seaching for work...soup lines... Oh YE Grapes of WRATH YE!
18 Months and it is over...all we see gone.
Get a grip dude. In 18 months we will be laughing our butts off at you and this post if we can find it or remember it. That is how worthless it will be.
You don't know Smack, for instance this sight is full of dissenters, me for instance, you've been here talking with terrorists and dissenters intellectuals writers and socialists there is a very good chance that someone someday soon will knock on your door and ask you all about a place like this and how many times I was at your place for breakfast and why you didn't report me a long time ago. They have to fill those prisons with anybody, you'll do just as well as the next guy because you see you don't have to be guilty for uncle sam to imprison you do you. Of course that's all far fetched nonesense to you because it couldn't happen in America right, well it's happened since day one Smack and it's going to get very popular, it already happened last year Smack while you were sleeping operation Falcon was conducted it swept up 10,000 criminals so they say. You see thay were testing the game plan and it worked smoothly and efficiently, what do you think that was about?http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19031.htm
You should review what you have written, and try real hard to understand why you are entirely wrong, and I mean morally and ethicly very seriously wrong. You don't seem to be able to understand the difference between human beings killed in an illegal invasion and occupation using weapons in contrevention of the Geneva agreements from a goddamn hollywood movie. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan and the circumstances of initiation and execution and the resulting deaths have nothing whatever to do with my personal conviction they are a matter of well known documented facts and testimony. Certainly I would never try to force you to believe anything you idiot, I posted the death toll to get comment about what peoples feelings were about the deaths that western militarys inflict on the people of the third world, your post is one of the most calous examples of phucked up thinking I think I'v ever seen here, it's revolting, it's nonsensicle and without a shred of humane empathy or feeling whatever for victims of war and famine, surely you are capable of better than this. I'm scraping you of my boot for ever.
Their is no difference from an insurgency fighting with methods in contravention of the geneva convention and an occupational force in contravention of the geneva convetion.
A war does not occur because one side shoots the other, that is merely genocide (which went on in Iraq pre-invasion)
When two sides shoot each other you get a war.
The Iraqi insurgency has clearly shown it believes its cause is more important than not killing civilians (they even have the highest number of civilians and children killed). In fact, many of the Insurgencies going on right now (there is more than one) list the extermination of enemy children (ie the wrong religion) as part of their goal.
So its just the way it is. America can leave and let thousands of children be massacred, or it can stay and protect them and have a far lesser number harmed in the crossfire with someone intent on such death.
You can't on the one hand say "There is no justification for anyone to be responsible for the death of children" in the case of America, then on the very next post claim "Iraqi insurgents have a moral justification to kill children"
Which is what you just did.
I do have empathy for human suffering, you do not. You would let a thousand suffer so you don't have to feel guilt for the fate of one.
Your posts have the same theme over and over again, I don't care how much carnage and death goes on in the world as long as I don't have to see it on the TV at night, as long as Im not in any way connected to it.
Their was a war in Afghanistan, far more intense, before America and Canada got involved. Don't forget we were invited in by half the country (the Northern Alliance) to help them in their civil war. We didnt' start a war, we picked sides.
In Iraq, the northern third of the country was fighting for independance after a campaign of genocide against them and wanted the US to aid them (And gave them a military launching point). The Shia in the south were also engaged in insurgent warfare with the central government.
The violent death toll shows about 30,000 , mostly adult men, die each year. The most intense fighting and death rates are not between American's and anyone else, but between Sunni and Shia militia's.
Maybe if was a bad Idea to topple a genocidal dictator , I disagree, I think he should have been toppled in the last war.
But with or without an invasion, the body counts in both Iraq and Afghanistan were still there, they were far lower because they were only one sided body counts.
A war does not occur because one side shoots the other, that is merely genocide (which went on in Iraq pre-invasion)
When two sides shoot each other you get a war.
The Iraqi insurgency has clearly shown it believes its cause is more important than not killing civilians (they even have the highest number of civilians and children killed). In fact, many of the Insurgencies going on right now (there is more than one) list the extermination of enemy children (ie the wrong religion) as part of their goal.
So its just the way it is. America can leave and let thousands of children be massacred, or it can stay and protect them and have a far lesser number harmed in the crossfire with someone intent on such death.
You can't on the one hand say "There is no justification for anyone to be responsible for the death of children" in the case of America, then on the very next post claim "Iraqi insurgents have a moral justification to kill children"
Which is what you just did.
I do have empathy for human suffering, you do not. You would let a thousand suffer so you don't have to feel guilt for the fate of one.
Your posts have the same theme over and over again, I don't care how much carnage and death goes on in the world as long as I don't have to see it on the TV at night, as long as Im not in any way connected to it.
Their was a war in Afghanistan, far more intense, before America and Canada got involved. Don't forget we were invited in by half the country (the Northern Alliance) to help them in their civil war. We didnt' start a war, we picked sides.
In Iraq, the northern third of the country was fighting for independance after a campaign of genocide against them and wanted the US to aid them (And gave them a military launching point). The Shia in the south were also engaged in insurgent warfare with the central government.
The violent death toll shows about 30,000 , mostly adult men, die each year. The most intense fighting and death rates are not between American's and anyone else, but between Sunni and Shia militia's.
Maybe if was a bad Idea to topple a genocidal dictator , I disagree, I think he should have been toppled in the last war.
But with or without an invasion, the body counts in both Iraq and Afghanistan were still there, they were far lower because they were only one sided body counts.
They're coming to get you Beav. No more fresh eggs! Powdered eggs for you. The Thought Police are coming...HIDE I say... HIDE!
It's all becoming clearer by the moment. Eaglesmack and Thomaska and many Americans believe that it's perfectly OK to launch an invaision and kill hundreds of thousands of people, many of whom are children, on the basis of lies and uncorroborated "evidence". The idea that the American administration is working in the best interests of Americans by spending trillions of dollars in support of Israel and has made firm commitment to continue to fund the government in Jerusalem is a joyous announcement for these folk. The aircraft loaded with dead American kids sacrificed to these lies and corruption aren't of any interest or importance to these swell folk. I suppose if you own stock in the defense establishment, no body-count is important in terms of dividends and the "bottom line".
America has "turned the corner" and become what they only a short while ago identified as the "evil" of torture and corruption. The Constitution of the United States was perhaps after all built on the framework of the Protocol of the Elders of Zion...whether that's a "legitimate" document or not. For decades the United States has been suporting oppressive regimes and practicing "regime-change", backing terrorist states like Pakistan and Israel while looting the world of any nations petroleum...in the name of "good business". With secret CIA torture facilities and a new willingness to behave exactly the same way as those identified as the "axis of evil"...torture kidnapping indescriminate murder of civilians....America has become all it can be....
The wealthiest terror state on the globe.
Canadians must be so proud of its unswerving support for these terrorists as opposed to the terrorists identified by America's corrupt government.
Perhaps the decades of terrorist sponsorship that has kept the pot boiling over in the Middle East will once again visit itself upon the United States. And when it does, should Canada respond by opening its airspace an offering sanctuary to Americans, it should be no surprise when Canada is targetted as well.
America has "turned the corner" and become what they only a short while ago identified as the "evil" of torture and corruption. The Constitution of the United States was perhaps after all built on the framework of the Protocol of the Elders of Zion...whether that's a "legitimate" document or not. For decades the United States has been suporting oppressive regimes and practicing "regime-change", backing terrorist states like Pakistan and Israel while looting the world of any nations petroleum...in the name of "good business". With secret CIA torture facilities and a new willingness to behave exactly the same way as those identified as the "axis of evil"...torture kidnapping indescriminate murder of civilians....America has become all it can be....
The wealthiest terror state on the globe.
Canadians must be so proud of its unswerving support for these terrorists as opposed to the terrorists identified by America's corrupt government.
Perhaps the decades of terrorist sponsorship that has kept the pot boiling over in the Middle East will once again visit itself upon the United States. And when it does, should Canada respond by opening its airspace an offering sanctuary to Americans, it should be no surprise when Canada is targetted as well.
Their is no difference from an insurgency fighting with methods in contravention of the geneva convention and an occupational force in contravention of the geneva convetion.
A war does not occur because one side shoots the other, that is merely genocide (which went on in Iraq pre-invasion)
Zzarchov when you Phuck-up in the first half dozen words what point is there in reading the rest of your crap? The people of Iraq are the falsely accused members of the phoney insurgency. You obviously know absolutly nothing about the history of Iraq except what you've gotten off western capitalist television. "Merely genocide" you don't have any idea of what that means ,do you? You should join the US army and help us all.
A war does not occur because one side shoots the other, that is merely genocide (which went on in Iraq pre-invasion)
Zzarchov when you Phuck-up in the first half dozen words what point is there in reading the rest of your crap? The people of Iraq are the falsely accused members of the phoney insurgency. You obviously know absolutly nothing about the history of Iraq except what you've gotten off western capitalist television. "Merely genocide" you don't have any idea of what that means ,do you? You should join the US army and help us all.
Those who hate the U.S., just wait for any story at all, to come from anywhere at all, which blames or criticizes the U.S. for anything, and 'they' are all over it like fog, whether
there is any basis for truth or not.
there is any basis for truth or not.
And those who love it will forgive murder to preserve comfort and decadence no matter how many die for no other reason than to preserve that aberation of justice and travesty of democracy.
And what part of that isn't true?
When only one side fights (Say the Iraqi versus the Kurds) you in fact, do not have a war, you have a Genocide.
It takes two to tango, the USA is involved in a war because some people are fighting them.
If as you say there is never a justification to have civilians hurt in the crossfire, then both parties are equally guilty.
If there is a possible justification, then your going to have to actually discuss that (Which is an arguement you can't win, your debating personal morals) about why one cause is more just than the other.
Thomaska for instance gets so mad, because you do not have any message other than "America is bad" and "Rich people are bad". You don't give reasons for why they are bad, and if you do you irrationally declare those reasons only apply to them, not others engaged in the same activities.
You "Phuck" up in EVERY word you write because you don't have clear message, only hatred and irrational emotional arguements.
Of the two of us guess which one proves irrationality everytime.As for emotion you plainly don't have any.
And, when that is the case, that's fine, but it really doesn't matter what is said about
them, all of you, 'who' are so full of hate, (like extremist muslims), must read everything
negative, everyday, and gather all of it together, and can't wait to send it on, but much
of it is speculation, or hype, (I think most of us know what is actually true, and what isn't,)and you treat everything as though it is all 'fact'.
That is why most people can't take you seriously, it is all 'overkill', (pardin the pun,) on
your part.
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I sometimes if you truly wonder Darkbeaver, if people do think you level headed and rational.
Of your intelligence I cannot say, perhaps in periods where you are calm you could have great pearls of wisdom (if a different opinion), but all I ever hear from you is frothing hate speak and insults at peoples mental capacities because they dare disagree with you.
Of your intelligence I cannot say, perhaps in periods where you are calm you could have great pearls of wisdom (if a different opinion), but all I ever hear from you is frothing hate speak and insults at peoples mental capacities because they dare disagree with you.
Well let's see what I hate, I hate injustice, greed, ignorance, brutality,deciet,complacency, rascism,religion,want,poverty,war,murder,rape,theft and usery so save your breath talloola. Follow the money and you'll end up in the hell of reality. Sit in your comfort and do and say nothing and you'll be a victim only one of the billions to come. You are so incapable of criticle thought that you cannot tell the difference between hope and hate. The articles and the posts I involve myself with are positive, full of hope, and a promise for the future, but you appear to be blind and unwilling to consider anything but what you think is true, proove what you say, read the Einstien essay, surely you,re not ignorant enough to reject his thoughts. Would you be so bold and sure of yourself to lump him in with me? Speculation my ass, follow the money, economic fact, numbers talloola, they are the reality of the day and they support everything I'v posted here. Most people?
See, this is what we are talking about.
You assume anyone who doesn't think as you do is ignorant, you claim they are incapable of critical thought. An assumption you make without critical thought.
The word for that is ignorance darkbeaver. I hope you can grow out of it.
You assume anyone who doesn't think as you do is ignorant, you claim they are incapable of critical thought. An assumption you make without critical thought.
The word for that is ignorance darkbeaver. I hope you can grow out of it.
I'am sure that I'll be alright Zzarchov, you on the other hand don't have a snowballs chance in hell mate. I assume nothing, I can bloody well read.
We'll leave it in each others will.