Technical question on WTC collapse

karrie

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He seems to have bumped all the threads he participated in in the past. Not one of these threads appears to be new.
 

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Well while we're here why don't we say something about the false flag operation, like how gullible
conspiracy detractors realy are, the physical evidence for pro-demolition is unsurmountable.
The fact is you could fly 707s into WTC1 all day for a week and never get pulverization and a 12 second symetricle drop, you understand wha um sayin, no , I didn't think so.
 

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Well while we're here why don't we say something about the false flag operation, like how gullible
conspiracy detractors realy are, the physical evidence for pro-demolition is unsurmountable.
The fact is you could fly 707s into WTC1 all day for a week and never get pulverization and a 12 second symetricle drop, you understand wha um sayin, no , I didn't think so.

Wrong. One plane flew into each tower and brought them down.
 

darkbeaver

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That's two planes and three buildings destroyed. I'm not very good at math but isn't there a problem there 3-2=1 building left, let me try again 3/2=1.5 buildings, no that's not it either, those diabawlical terrorists are math geniuses as well as the finist pilots ever born and the worlds foremost tacticle executors masters of strategic ingenuity. America didn't have a chance. The terroists are using off planet science. We are doomed.
 

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That's two planes and three buildings destroyed. I'm not very good at math but isn't there a problem there 3-2=1 building left, let me try again 3/2=1.5 buildings, no that's not it either, those diabawlical terrorists are math geniuses as well as the finist pilots ever born and the worlds foremost tacticle executors masters of strategic ingenuity. America didn't have a chance. The terroists are using off planet science. We are doomed.

Ah...well then you just need to look at the evidence and the eyewitness reports of Building 7 being damaged.

Plane crashes into building...building falls...falling building damages 3rd building...3rd building falls. Simple.:lol:
 

darkbeaver

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The simplicity of the official explanation is problematic of course, and that's the crux of the matter for sure. There is a missing plane or one third of each observed plane sheared off unobserved and swerved into WTC7, causeing it to fall 23 minutes after BBC announced that it fell. I think I believe in god now, I'm going to join the Ephramite Church of America and git down with Jeebus.:smile:
 

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The simplicity of the official explanation is problematic of course, and that's the crux of the matter for sure. There is a missing plane or one third of each observed plane sheared off unobserved and swerved into WTC7, causeing it to fall 23 minutes after BBC announced that it fell. I think I believe in god now, I'm going to join the Ephramite Church of America and git down with Jeebus.:smile:

Not quite following the missing plane or 1/3 plane deal. A new theory perhaps? Yours? The more the merrier!

BBC Report...already disproven. Clearly disproven.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2007/03/part_of_the_conspiracy_2.html
 
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WTC7 wasn't hit with anything, which makes it's collapse a Ripleys modern miracle mystery.Fire does not do that Smack, and you should know that.

Ah but it was. It was hit by WTC 2 as it fell down. Read all of the quotes from NYFD people that saw the back of Bldg 7. Look at the pictures available and see huge chunks taking out from the sides and corners. Watch the films of WTC 2 going down.
 

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Ah but it was. It was hit by WTC 2 as it fell down. Read all of the quotes from NYFD people that saw the back of Bldg 7. Look at the pictures available and see huge chunks taking out from the sides and corners. Watch the films of WTC 2 going down.

Did WTC 2 fall through WTC 1 to hit WTC 7? This is getting better and better all the time.

Woof!
 

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That's two planes and three buildings destroyed. I'm not very good at math but isn't there a problem there 3-2=1 building left, let me try again 3/2=1.5 buildings, no that's not it either, those diabawlical terrorists are math geniuses as well as the finist pilots ever born and the worlds foremost tacticle executors masters of strategic ingenuity. America didn't have a chance. The terroists are using off planet science. We are doomed.

Not only that ... they're incredibly lucky. Just four chances, yet they went in cold with inexperienced terrorists at the helm - and they score three for four? I mean ... what are the chances? Even the Kamikazies didn't do that well with combat-hardened pilots and all of World War 2 as a diversion.

Woof
 

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Did WTC 2 fall through WTC 1 to hit WTC 7? This is getting better and better all the time.

Woof!

Well I may have mixed up the numbers and if I did I stand corrected. I will go and check. Thank you for that correction.
 

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Not only that ... they're incredibly lucky. Just four chances, yet they went in cold with inexperienced terrorists at the helm - and they score three for four? I mean ... what are the chances? Even the Kamikazies didn't do that well with combat-hardened pilots and all of World War 2 as a diversion.

Woof

They were trained. Only conspiracy theorists claim them to be untrained.

On the contrary. Kamikaze pilots were not hardened veterans. That is how the Devine Wind came about. Most of the hardened combat veterans were killed starting with the Battle of Midway which claimed a big portion of their elite pilots. The attrition rate was high among Japanese veteran pilots and the newer pilots were being trained and released into combat with very little training. The results of these new pilots were laughable and they were getting slaughtered by USN, USMC, and USAAF pilots. So the Japanese came up with the Kamikaze tactic. You see, since these pilots were not trained so well...all they had to do was fly their plane into a ship. Neat idea wasn't it? Where have we seen that tactic before? ;-)
 

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I have a question, actually a couple. When they began cleaning up the debris, did they use cutters to break up the size of some of those girders? I mean if you watch the videos you can see that there was still sections of the tower standing after the collapse was finished, and then the skeleton fell afterwards. If it really was charges that brought down the tower, wouldn't the bottom have come apart first? Do demolitions ever start from the top of a building?

I first started getting interested in the controlled demolition angle of 9/11 after watching building 7 go down in a perfect heap, I think that was a few years ago now and don't spend much time on that stuff in general anymore but...

Controlled Demolition did the cleanup, I am sure they used all of their expertise in taking down what little was left standing.

The last question I always thought was interesting, this site explains one theory about buildings 1 and 2 since they are a sort of top down demolition.

http://wtcdemolition.blogspot.com/2007/05/wtc-nuke-thesis-from-anonymous.html

There are many links on the site if you are still curious about 9/11 related stuff but all in all, when you watch towers 1 and 2 go down - there is no way on earth any type of floor collapse is going to eject steel girders up and out 100's of meters - just no way!

In fact like someone else said here, you could fly airliners into those towers all day and they would not have come down, let alone how they actually did. Let common sense find the truth for you but much will always be left to speculation since most evidence was immediately removed and destroyed.
 

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Not only that ... they're incredibly lucky. Just four chances, yet they went in cold with inexperienced terrorists at the helm - and they score three for four? I mean ... what are the chances? Even the Kamikazies didn't do that well with combat-hardened pilots and all of World War 2 as a diversion.

Woof
These are a new breed of Kamikazies Wolf we all saw them in the documentry Independence Day, the government dosen't want us to know, but I escaped from area 51 eer a guy I know escaped from area 51 and some aliens with him, they told me I mean him that some other aliens, the bad ones, where working for the government something about air-traffic control, that night we eer he got drunk in Nevada celebrating our eer thier escape, he passed out and never saw them again. He said the bad aliens don't like our fast food resturants, it's got nothing to do with family values after all, those lying government backsterds.
 

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There are many links on the site if you are still curious about 9/11 related stuff but all in all, when you watch towers 1 and 2 go down - there is no way on earth any type of floor collapse is going to eject steel girders up and out 100's of meters - just no way!

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Then you are not familiar with the construction of the Twin Towers.
 

lone wolf

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Interesting article


THE WTC WAS DESIGNED TO SURVIVE
THE IMPACT OF A BOEING 767.



767 were not designed when these buidings was designed, 737 perhaps.

Actually, it was 707 ... and nobody considered that an outer frame, connected to the inner frame only by OWSJ and floorpan, might behave like a bell upon impact causing failures of joist connections at multiple levels above and below the centre of moment.

See.... I didn't "fold like a house of cards".... I researched once I realized WTC was of a design completely alien to conventional post-and-beam/column-and-girder.

Woof!
 

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Actually, it was 707 ... and nobody considered that an outer frame, connected to the inner frame only by OWSJ and floorpan, might behave like a bell upon impact causing failures of joist connections at multiple levels above and below the centre of moment.

See.... I didn't "fold like a house of cards".... I researched once I realized WTC was of a design completely alien to conventional post-and-beam/column-and-girder.

Woof!

Thanks Wolf. You sort of refute the other guys insinuating that steel girders don't just get launched from the building. Instead of doing the research I just mentioned that he was unfamiliar with the Twin Towers construction. I saw a documentary on the construction of the towers and it stated that the exterior walls is what held the load as opposed to the standard way buildings are built.

So regardless of who or how the building was destroyed that is why these massive exterior columns trashed and sliced through the other buildings.