9/11 Truth Manifesto

[lone wolf]

Amazing how you can't explain away rogue airplanes being expertly piloted by Cessna washouts, radar screw-ups, military screw-ups ... and guess what! Not one of them had to be photoshopped. Yeah, that stuff about holograms is in the realm of tinfoil hats. Controlled demolition - though it looks very much like three of them - I pulled my nose out of because I don't know how cost-cut, lazy-man steel construction behaves when the heat is on. What can't be denied are three thouand people died, a whole nation has been lied to, and 9/11 became a rally point for two more Vietnams. Uncle Sam was the victim? Only the money knows.

Woof!

 

[darkbeaver]

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WE ARE ALL Prisoners Now
By Paul Craig Roberts
“They’re locking them up today
They’re throwing away the key
I wonder who it’ll be tomorrow, you or me?”
The Red Telephone (LOVE, 1967)
12/26/07 "ICH" -- - At Christmas time it has been my habit to write a column in remembrance of the many innocent people in prisons whose lives have been stolen by the US criminal justice (sic) system that is as inhumane as it is indifferent to justice. Usually I retell the cases of William Strong and Christophe Gaynor, two men framed in the state of Virginia by prosecutors and judges as wicked and corrupt as any who served Hitler or Stalin.
This year is different. All Americans are now imprisoned in a world of lies and deception created by the Bush Regime and the two complicit parties of Congress, by federal judges too timid or ignorant to recognize a rogue regime running roughshod over the Constitution, by a bought and paid for media that serves as propagandists for a regime of war criminals, and by a public who have forsaken their Founding Fathers.
Americans are also imprisoned by fear, a false fear created by the hoax of “terrorism.” It has turned out that headline terrorist events since 9/11 have been orchestrated by the US government. For example, the alleged terrorist plot to blow up Chicago’s Sears Tower was the brainchild of a FBI agent who searched out a few disaffected people to give lip service to the plot devised by the FBI agent. He arrested his victims, whose trial ended in acquittal and mistrial.
Many Europeans regard 9/11 itself as an orchestrated event. Former cabinet members of the British, Canadian and German governments and the Chief of Staff of the Russian Army have publicly expressed their doubts about the official 9/11 story. Recently, a former president of Italy, Francesco Cossiga, said in an interview with the newspaper, Corriere della Sera (November 30, 2007), that “democratic elements in America and Europe, with the Italian center-left in the forefront, now know that the 9/11 attack was planned and executed by the American CIA and Mossad in order to blame the Arab countries, and to persuade the Western powers to undertake military action both in Iraq and Afghanistan.”
It is unclear whether Cossiga was being sarcastic about the opinion of skeptics or merely reporting what people think. I have written to him asking for clarification and will report any reply that I receive. Apparently, the Italian media has not offered a clarification.
Cossiga’s statement has not been reported by a US newspaper or TV channel. Raising doubts among Americans about the government is not a strong point of the corporate media. Americans live in a world of propaganda designed to secure their acquiescence to war crimes, torture, searches and police state measures, military aggression, hegemony and oppression, while portraying Americans (and Israelis) as the salt of the earth who are threatened by Muslims who hate their “freedom and democracy.”
Americans cling to this “truth” while the Bush regime and a complicit Congress destroy the Bill of Rights and engineer the theft of elections.
Freedom and democracy in America have been reduced to no-fly lists, spying without warrants, arrests without warrants or evidence, permanent detention despite the constitutional protection of habeas corpus, torture despite the prohibition against self-incrimination--the list goes on and on. http://www.truthnews.us/?p=1115]
In today’s fearful America, a US Senator, whose elder brothers were (1) a military hero killed in action, (2) a President of the United States assassinated in office, (3) an Attorney General of the United States and likely president except he was assassinated like his brother, can find himself on the no-fly list. Present and former high government officials, with top secret security clearances, cannot fly with a tube of toothpaste or a bottle of water despite the absence of any evidence that extreme measures imposed by “airport security” makes flying safer. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071221/us_nm/security_airports_dc;_ylt=ApzEobAIQMfiX02LTvKbk1UXIr0F
Elderly American citizens with walkers and young mothers with children are meticulously searched because US Homeland Security cannot tell the difference between an American citizen and a terrorist.
All Americans should note the ominous implications of the inability of Homeland Security to distinguish an American citizen from a terrorist.
When Airport Security cannot differentiate a US Marine General recipient of the Medal of Honor from a terrorist, Americans have all the information they need to know. http://www.homeofheroes.com/news/archives/2002_0100_foss.html
Any and every American can be arrested by unaccountable authority, held indefinitely without charges and tortured until he or she can no longer stand the abuse and confesses.
This predicament, which can now befall any American, is our reward for our stupidity, our indifference, our gullibility, and our lack of compassion for anyone but ourselves.
Some Americans have begun to comprehend the tremendous financial costs of the “war on terror.” But few understand the cost to American liberty. Last October a Democrat-sponsored bill, “Prevention of Violent Radicalism and Homegrown Terrorism,” passed the House of Representatives 404 to 6. http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/12/20/5920/
Only six members of the House voted against tyrannical legislation that would destroy freedom of speech and freedom of assembly and that would mandate 18 months of congressional hearings to discover Americans with “extreme” views who could be preemptively arrested.
What better indication that the US Constitution has lost its authority when elected representatives closest to the people pass a bill that permits the Bill of Rights to be overturned by the subjective opinion of members of an “Extremist Belief
Dr. Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury for Economic Policy in the Reagan administration. He is credited with curing stagflation and eliminating “Phillips curve” trade-offs between employment and inflation, an achievement now on the verge of being lost by the worst economic mismanagement in US history.

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[CDNBear]

Amazing how you can't explain away rogue airplanes being expertly piloted by Cessna washouts, radar screw-ups, military screw-ups ... and guess what! Not one of them had to be photoshopped. Yeah, that stuff about holograms is in the realm of tinfoil hats. Controlled demolition - though it looks very much like three of them - I pulled my nose out of because I don't know how cost-cut, lazy-man steel construction behaves when the heat is on. What can't be denied are three thouand people died, a whole nation has been lied to, and 9/11 became a rally point for two more Vietnams. Uncle Sam was the victim? Only the money knows.

Woof!

Ummm, lone...

My oldest boy, all of 14, a Corporal in the Royal Canadian Air Cadets has logged all of a hundred hours in an authorised flight simulator...and about 100 times that on the three flight simulators on this machine here. All with flight school rated equipment, ie: Joystick, trim tabs, peddles, and throttle all with positive feedback devices.

He could fly a commercial jet liner into a target the size of the WTC. Without a doubt. All without ever touching the controls of a real aircraft.

You think grown men, with actual flying time in an aircraft couldn't achieve that?

 

[lone wolf]

Yeah ... I suppose if Santa can do it.

I know about flight simulator and the illusion of flight. These guys would have had to resort to VFR - and from 35 thousand feet with patchy cloud below, that ain't gonna happen. Did any of them have access codes so they could alter autopilot's regularly scheduled program? At that altitude, you barely know what directions are east or west - and you sure as hell aren't going to know where you are or recognize landmarks. It ain't as easy as flying your fourteen-year-old son's flight simulator.

Woof!

 

[CDNBear]

Yeah ... I suppose if Santa can do it.

I know about flight simulator and the illusion of flight. These guys would have had to resort to VFR - and from 35 thousand feet with patchy cloud below, that ain't gonna happen. Did any of them have access codes so they could alter autopilot's regularly scheduled program? At that altitude, you barely know what directions are east or west - and you sure as hell aren't going to know where you are or recognize landmarks. It ain't as easy as flying your fourteen-year-old son's flight simulator.

Woof!

Considering the Flight School my son is attending, is renowned, nationally recognised and an accredited flight school...I'll take their knowledge of and use of globally recognised technology over the words of someone that obviously knows nothing about what he types...any day!!!

But you can keep on believing whatever you want. Those of us close to people that instruct and are learning, know better and will make our decisions on credible accounts by people with 10 of thousands of hours of flight time.

btw...Bypassing the autopilot is as easy as flipping a switch, until now that is. VFR or 'visual flight rating' for those that obviously know nothing of flying, is not as hard as you think it is in...how did you put it..."patchy cloud"...I know pilots that have done it in some pretty tough conditions, to stay rated to fly their chosen field, the military. Not to mention the reconstruction of all the flights that took place on 9/11, were done and certified on the same simulator program, my son now learns on...seems there are only a few illusions/dellusions left and they ain't on this end.

 

[lone wolf]

Bear ... stick to garbage dumps. CAF taught me plenty. Several thousand hours in Argus taught me reality. What have you learned?

Woof!

 

[CDNBear]

Bear ... stick to garbage dumps. You obviously just like the chaos and the sound of your own voice.

Woof!

Ah yes, the vacuuous responce of the "fed"...glad I could poke enough holes in your illusions/dellusions to illicit such an immature responce...and sink the dingy holding your CT platform above the waterline.

Thanx for the laugh, though I would have preferred adult conversation.

 

[missile]

Even tho George Bush has had flight training, Donald Trump is the mastermind behind 9/11.

 

[lone wolf]

Ah yes, the vacuuous responce of the "fed"...glad I could poke enough holes in your illusions/dellusions to illicit such an immature responce...and sink the dingy holding your CT platform above the waterline.

Thanx for the laugh, though I would have preferred adult conversation.

Actually, pre-edit was a reflection of your own pre-edit childish banter. (note to self.... Copy Bearword before he changes to look smart)

Adult conversation wouldn't be likely. I doubt if you could hold your end of it up. Paddle away....

:lol: Woof!

 

[CDNBear]

Bear ... stick to garbage dumps. CAF taught me plenty. Several thousand hours in Argus taught me reality. What have you learned?

Woof!

To late, I already captured your immaturity for posterity.

First I've heard of your flight training though. Not to mention the antiquated notion of the Argus, retired some 27 years now.

Makes no difference though, your unedited post only proves you're full of it.

My experience in aircraft consists of having to have complete trust in my pilot. Hence the bonds I made with several fixed wing and helo rated pilots, during my Military career... that continue to this day...all of which have no suspitions about how anyone with enough motivation and enough time to train and prepare could have easily pulled off the events of 9/11.

People that know dedication to a cause and know what determination is, know that anything is possible.

 

[CDNBear]

Actually, pre-edit was a reflection of your childish banter. Adult conversation wouldn't be likely. I doubt if you could hold your end of it up. Paddle away....

:lol: Woof!

You're projecting lone...nothing in any post I've made to you was in any way childish or deserving of your immature 'pre-edited' responce.

I challenge you to prove otherwise. I won't hold my breath, that you will worth while rise to the challenge. I already know you'll fail. So anything you do retort with, will likely be more of the same old conjured up immaturity.

(note to self.... Copy Bearword before he changes to look smart)

Please do, it will only prove I do not manipulate my posts, in any such way. Good or bad, I have always stood by my words. But nice try. I have not done any such thing. Prove I have. The only one I see flip flopping about with editing their posts once they realise their error, is you.

 

[lone wolf]

You're projecting lone...nothing in any post I've made to you was in any way childish or deserving of your immature 'pre-edited' responce.

I challenge you to prove otherwise. I won't hold my breath, that you will worth while rise to the challenge. I already know you'll fail. So anything you do retort with, will likely be more of the same old conjured up immaturity.

Put it back in your pants, Bear.... The topic is 911 - not how fast you can alter a text to make the other guy look like he's picking on you. See ... I observe....

Woof!

 

[CDNBear]

Put it back in your pants, Bear.... The topic is 911 - not how fast you can alter a text to make the other guy look like he's picking on you. See ... I observe....

Woof!

And I rest my case.

How'bout a lil clinic for ya., you could seek out some article on how there could be flaws in the flight simulator programs used to teach pilots, or being the same program, how using them was flawed in order to recreate the events of 9/11. Or find some off beat evidence of how said programs can be manipulated. Not resort to the banter you so chose.

not how fast you can alter a text to make the other guy look like he's picking on you. See ... I observe....

LOL, I love paranoia at its finest. Please do point out my altering of any posts.

I'm sure if you would truly like to prove such a thing, you could ask the mods if they wouldn't mind going through the logs and taking a peek as to whether or not you're just making stuff up again...non?

:roll:

 

[darkbeaver]

9/11 was a staged event that required complete airspace control. There is no way to penetrate that airspace without total control. Shanksville yielded nothing of aircraft parts, the pentagoon was missiled, WTC7 fell by itself. Who stood to benefit? It was a cheap operation compared to the profit.

 

[lone wolf]

And I rest my case.

How'bout a lil clinic for ya., you could seek out some article on how there could be flaws in the flight simulator programs used to teach pilots, or being the same program, how using them was flawed in order to recreate the events of 9/11. Or find some off beat evidence of how said programs can be manipulated. Not resort to the banter you so chose.
:roll:

Why would there even be any 9/11 simprograms prior to 9/11? They were neither simulators nor holograms that flew into WTC's 1 and 2, crashed in Shanksville or allegedly struck the Pentagon. Flaws in after the fact programs really don't matter a lot do they?

Shoulda left your case at rest....

Woof!

 

[CDNBear]

Why would there even be any 9/11 simprograms prior to 9/11? They were neither simulators nor holograms that flew into WTC's 1 and 2, crashed in Shanksville or allegedly struck the Pentagon. Flaws in after the fact programs really don't matter a lot do they?

Shoulda left your case at rest....

Woof!

Re read my post...you have erroniously mistook my assistance.

I'm referring to the commonly used flight training simulators that have been around for quite some time now, used to not only teach new pilots, but to re-enact historic flight data.

I've seen it done for flight record data from Vietnam to the WTC.

You should have left my case alone lone. But I guess some people just like being fed.

 

[wallyj]

9/11 was a staged event that required complete airspace control. There is no way to penetrate that airspace without total control. Shanksville yielded nothing of aircraft parts, the pentagoon was missiled, WTC7 fell by itself. Who stood to benefit? It was a cheap operation compared to the profit.

What the hell are you talking about now? A staged event? "There is no way to penetrate that airspace without total control",WTF,does that mean,? You have lost control of your mental faculties. Holy crap man ,you have swallowed the conspiracy whole and cannot tell the difference between reality and make-belive. Missiles hitting the pentagon? DB,time to take your meds. As for lone wolf,Have you ever heard stories of people that have had no experience at all with aircraft, landing planes on instructions from the control tower? Landing is the toughest,take-off is next,Steering into a target is not that difficult.

 

[lone wolf]

What the hell are you talking about now? A staged event? "There is no way to penetrate that airspace without total control",WTF,does that mean,? You have lost control of your mental faculties. Holy crap man ,you have swallowed the conspiracy whole and cannot tell the difference between reality and make-belive. Missiles hitting the pentagon? DB,time to take your meds. As for lone wolf,Have you ever heard stories of people that have had no experience at all with aircraft, landing planes on instructions from the control tower? Landing is the toughest,take-off is next,Steering into a target is not that difficult.

Yeah.... They call 'em movies....

Woof!

 

[lone wolf]

Re read my post...you have erroniously mistook my assistance.

I'm referring to the commonly used flight training simulators that have been around for quite some time now, used to not only teach new pilots, but to re-enact historic flight data.

I've seen it done for flight record data from Vietnam to the WTC.

You should have left my case alone lone. But I guess some people just like being fed.

How many of those programs were available in 2001? Hell, you can't even get a decent city street plan in most of New York State (peed-off trucker speakin' here) Even if there was a flight simulator program available to the general public, it still doesn't make it any easier to see through silvery haze and patchy cloud - stuff that's part of the sky below from seven miles up even in perfect CAVU conditions - to find landmarks on the ground. Once you're close enough to NYC, the target's easy enought to spot, but you still have to get there from a course almost opposite the one you'll be on.

Woof!

 

[CDNBear]

Yeah.... They call 'em movies....

Woof!

Actually there was one in brazil and one in Thailand...I'm trying to find the links and the make of planes.

I doubt either is anything like those of 9/11, but none the less...it takes great skill to safely land a plane.

It takes but training, practice, patience and a slight hand to fly one.

All things the determined can and would afford the mission at hand. I can't believe you refuse to see that. As a pilot, you of all people should know that once airborn, a plane needs very lil attention on a clear day, when your primary objective is not customer comfort, safety or ETA.