Do you love your life>

[Sal]

Those paddles can burn ya I hear. Guess the burn is worth the scorch though huh?

Bottom line is, none of us really know. In the end it won't matter what or how we believed, it will still be what it is. I am glad I have hope for more than this even if there is nothing in the end, it is nice to think we are bigger than now. I think just believing that makes me strive harder and worry less.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Have you guys taken the Myers-Brigg personality type indicator?

Yeah, I know all about it, we've both had to take it as part of our employer's ideas on useful training, and I've researched it a fair bit on my own as well. We both scored very similarly, but trust me, you do not want to get this hard-nosed old skeptic started on that subject. The kindest thing I can say about it is that I think, in common with most personality profiling techniques I've encountered, it's shallow and artificial.

And one of the reasons you don't want to get me started on it is because the people who own the rights to the name and the tests are very litigious. In fact if they saw your mention of it you'd probably get a nasty letter telling you the name is trade marked and you must write it this way: Myers-Briggs ™.

 

[DurkaDurka]

I love my self a couple times a week in the shower, it's fab.

 

[mapleleafs67]

i loved myself 3 hrs ago and cuddled afterwards

 

[daisygirl]

You didn't meet your husband until *after* your crippling accident? Then he did so bargain for it, and you must be a couple of pretty extraordinary people.

'Course I knew that about you anyway... :smile:

My physical self has deteriorated a lot since Lou and I met, Dex...that's what I meant. Lou has had to take over most of the chores here.

But thank you so much for your beautiful words, Dex. You have no idea how much they mean to me. You are truly a wonderful person. :smile:

 

[Curiosity]

Yeah, I know all about it, we've both had to take it as part of our employer's ideas on useful training, and I've researched it a fair bit on my own as well. We both scored very similarly, but trust me, you do not want to get this hard-nosed old skeptic started on that subject. The kindest thing I can say about it is that I think, in common with most personality profiling techniques I've encountered, it's shallow and artificial.

And one of the reasons you don't want to get me started on it is because the people who own the rights to the name and the tests are very litigious. In fact if they saw your mention of it you'd probably get a nasty letter telling you the name is trade marked and you must write it this way: Myers-Briggs ™.

Dexter

How else do you expect people to commence a dialogue other than in some form (quiz or interrogation) to reveal some of their idiosyncracies and quirks. There has to be a starting point for all tests - depending upon the reason for the test. The Myer-Briggs testing is primarily for workplace not life... routine, boring, repetitive, dedicated, efficient, communicative worker hives. No doubt they test on other issues but you mentioned you are familiar with it through your work.

Other profiles come from need - a life trauma or situation unsolved - those are more delicate and cannot really be categorized ... Personalities are as different as every day we spend on earth living and primarily based on fear or loss avoidance and pleasure seeking. Really very basic stuff.

It is our intellect and basic experiential learning which drive our opinions, and we may never choose to discover what is buried. Finally we are not what our tests indicate - only what we choose to respond to. Ergo even these in privacy and need can be skewed. Many of us prefer not to know ourselves. Contrary top what China espouses, life is ALL about our past.

Psychobabble for the day .... Curio

 

[MikeyDB]

Speaking of starting a conversation....

Anyone have copies of their EEGs they can post or how about results obtained through plethysmograph monitoring....

 

[Curiosity]

Oh god MIkey - it's so damn early!!! hehehe

Stole this from Cosmo's post on another place... pictures are always better 'n words...

 

[china]

Curiosity ,

Contrary top what China espouses, life is ALL about our past.

Only when writing an autobiography not when you are trying to feed your starving children.

 

[china]

You can not have respect for your present if you do not have respect for your past.
You imply that one could totally walk from one's past with no impressions left. Do you believe that?

Well , you don't have to do that any more,the past walks away from you by itself, with the impressions and all.

 

[Curiosity]

Curiosity ,



Only when writing an autobiography not when you are trying to feed your starving children.

China - we are discussing two separate things:

I am dealing with unconscious motivators - you are dealing with reality based conscious motivators.

Sometimes we have a feeling or an opinion about a brand new situation - it has to come from somewhere even if we don't recognize it. Something stored from previous experience.

 

[darkbeaver]

I love my life and I love myself enough to make the dayly attempts to become a kinder better person. Static love isn't real, real love moves constantly. Those who love the most also hate the most. IMO

 

[green mint]

hi china,
will not you say to me welcome as a new member in this forume.
yes I do my love with my life.and I am happy and content with what I have.

 

[china]

hi china,
will not you say to me welcome as a new member in this forume.
yes I do my love with my life.and I am happy and content with what I hav

Hi green mint ,welcome to the forum.
How's Green Land ? Guess not to much "green".
Care for some green tea?
Taking the liberty to extend a warm welcome from all of us here in the forum.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

How else do you expect people to commence a dialogue other than in some form (quiz or interrogation) to reveal some of their idiosyncracies and quirks...

Agreed, but too often people take such tests as an end, not a beginning, and they become a substitute for real understanding. I don't see that Myers-Briggs tests generate any information about idiosyncrasies and quirks, they claim to generate information about fundamental tendencies while also telling you that you're capable of behaviour outside of those tendencies. In other words, no behaviour will ever confirm or falsify your profile results, everything can be made to appear consistent with them, because inconsistency is defined in the procedure as consistent. I can't see any value in that, it's about as useful as your horoscope in the daily newspaper. I think what's really going on is the Forer Effect.

But like I said, don't get me started... ;-)

 

[china]

Originally Posted by china
Curiosity ,



Only when writing an autobiography not when you are trying to feed your starving children.

China - we are discussing two separate things:

I am dealing with unconscious motivators - you are dealing with reality based conscious motivators.

Sometimes we have a feeling or an opinion about a brand new situation - it has to come from somewhere even if we don't recognize it. Something stored from previous experience.

Sorry Curio,This sounds like a "modern witchcraft ".

 

[Zzarchov]

Not really. If you wanna get into it that isn't witchcraft thats baseline instinct.

In the operating system of your brain, those those are the acts of the kernal.


Man, I was just gonna post a silly "I Love Lamp" and be done with it, now Im actually responding.

 

[china]

Zzarchov

Man, I was just gonna post a silly "I Love Lamp" and be done with it, now Im actually responding.

Hey man,stick with you Lamp .You never know .it may illuminate your way of thinking.

 

[MikeyDB]

China

Perhaps you could help us out by differentiating between the prime operative/directive (innate and inherent) telling each one of us that our personal survival and our personal well-being are paramount to continuation of the species.... and that notion you've highlighted..."life"....

"Life" can overcome incredible obstacles and yet a relatively light blow to a nerve center can incapacitate a human being. "Life" can reclaim vast areas of land burned by lightening and "destroyed " by lava flow, and yet, a human being can be killed by a virus so small one must use an electron microscope to see it....

Maybe you could define your terms your "understanding" a with a little more precision...

 

[china]

Quote:
China - we are discussing two separate things:

I am dealing with unconscious motivators - you are dealing with reality based conscious motivators.

Sometimes we have a feeling or an opinion about a brand new situation - it has to come from somewhere even if we don't recognize it. Something stored from previous experience.
Sorry Curio,This sounds like a "modern witchcraft ".

Hi Curiosity, my dear friend:
Please ,please disregard the "Witchcraft" part of my post,this was just a "Freudian slip", I wanted to say...'this sounds like a fine observation' but it just came out differently.

Well ,not really Curio , I was just frustrated , didn't know what you were trying to say.

I am dealing with unconscious motivators - you are dealing with reality based conscious motivators.

My personal observation is that there is only a one 'consciousness', though I'm sure many will disagree.
If the sub, the hidden consciousness i really so mysterious , so deeply hidden why is it that we "know " so much about it-consciously.Obviously what is in sub consciousness, originated in consciousness. Two parts of the same
thing.
I don't really understand what you mean by 'motivators' (in this context'), hope you can explain.

If I,m dealing with reality , what are you dealing with?....a w...oops ,another Freudian coming.

Sometimes we have a feeling or an opinion about a brand new situation - it has to come from somewhere even if we don't recognize it. Something stored from previous experience.

its midnight , going to sleep will be back

Known can only know known.Known being knowledge ,experience ,the contents of your memory ,the past. There is nothing new in memory. Thought can not exist without memory,there is no memory without the thought.Feelings and opinions are thought , past.If you think you 'found' something new ,you recognized it ,the known ,the past .

Ecclesiastes
Chapter 1 1 1 The words of David's son, Qoheleth, king in Jerusalem: 2 2 Vanity of vanities, says Qoheleth, vanity of vanities! All things are vanity! 3 3 What profit has man from all the labor which he toils at under the sun? 4 One generation passes and another comes, but the world forever stays. 5 The sun rises and the sun goes down; then it presses on to the place where it rises. 6 Blowing now toward the south, then toward the north, the wind turns again and again, resuming its rounds. 7 All rivers go to the sea, yet never does the sea become full. To the place where they go, the rivers keep on going. 8 4 All speech is labored; there is nothing man can say. The eye is not satisfied with seeing nor is the ear filled with hearing. 9 What has been, that will be; what has been done, that will be done. Nothing is new under the sun.Good night again ,China