9/11 conspiracy debate
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Hey Illogic 7, here's a picture of Fiterman Hall (The Building I was in BTW on that day), you know where this building is? BEHIND WTC 7, see the damage?
Fiterman Hall is a 15 story building BEHIND WTC 7 (a 48 story building) in relation to the North tower.
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Was it taken after wtc 7 fell down or before?
can you show me the same building from another angle, to put everything in perspectives, please.
Explain how a hologram manages to project a penetration of the airplanes nose through the opposite side of the building.
and here is some debris left over from the "hologram".
This should be required reading by all conspiracy ---- theorists....
What I Learned
http://www.sawyerhome.net/whatilearned.html
What I Learned
http://www.sawyerhome.net/whatilearned.html
Who's the cowardly jackass who gave me anonymous bad rep points for writing the truth about Tower 7?
Explain how a hologram manages to project a penetration of the airplanes nose through the opposite side of the building.
and here is some debris left over from the "hologram".
I asked you, if the photo was taken before wtc7 fell or not?
I,ve never said, i was 100% sure, it was hologram, i just said it was a possibility, since we don't see plane on some tv shot, and cnn faked a video.
CNN faked a Video? :lol: I can't believe you're still on that Rant, why would CNN fake a Video? What was you're conspiracy life like before 9/11?
The people who claim a plane never hit the Pentagon as a Missile did have never been able to explain what knocked down a row of street lights leading to the impact zone of the Pentagon..
A Misslie can't knock down street lights, the wing span of a plane can..
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If a plane going 500 MPH actually hit those streetlights, you can be damn sure they would have followed in the vacuum behind that airplane for some distance. Wingtip vortex would be the more likely culprit - and the lamp standards still would not be in a position where they "just fell down". A few would likely be embedded in a Pentagon wall.
Wolf
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US Spy Chief: 9/11 "Could Have Been Prevented"
Director of National Intelligence says US didn't connect available information : 9/11 "Could Have Been Prevented"
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091907K.shtml
K - The failure to prevent 9/11 was either:
1] a gross error in US intelligence, or
2] it was all arranged to happen.
The first one implies that some intelligence people should be reprimanded, and the public should be told to stay calm because it was a very much preventable occurance.
If it is the second one, Bush/Cheney must be removed from office and charged for their huge crimes against humanity. Conspirators should all be jailed and America must never allow this kind of power and political influence to develop again. The warnings about the military-industrial complex gaining too much power and influence came true...
It seems that there are many Americans who are leaning towards believing the second explantion... this story is not going away....
Director of National Intelligence says US didn't connect available information : 9/11 "Could Have Been Prevented"
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/091907K.shtml
K - The failure to prevent 9/11 was either:
1] a gross error in US intelligence, or
2] it was all arranged to happen.
The first one implies that some intelligence people should be reprimanded, and the public should be told to stay calm because it was a very much preventable occurance.
If it is the second one, Bush/Cheney must be removed from office and charged for their huge crimes against humanity. Conspirators should all be jailed and America must never allow this kind of power and political influence to develop again. The warnings about the military-industrial complex gaining too much power and influence came true...
It seems that there are many Americans who are leaning towards believing the second explantion... this story is not going away....
Explain how a hologram manages to project a penetration of the airplanes nose through the opposite side of the building.
and here is some debris left over from the "hologram".
This are debris from a plane?
and again i asked you the same exact question, was the photo taken after wtc 7 fell down?
And that warning came when eisenhower was in power, he gave detailed speech about it. And here it is.
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html
For all the crap out there, I have yet to see an adequate explanation for:
If indeed it was part of some grand plan, who has come forward to say they were involved, let alone have evidence. How many people were directly involved with the Watergate scandel? 10, 20? All it took to break was for one guy to say he was involved. This conspiracy theory is magnitudes more complicated, and would take much more people. This line has been out there for a while, yet the conspiracists with their blinders on have no answer for that.
How much money do you think could be made by speaking out? More than the pension of a CIA officer I'll bet
If indeed it was part of some grand plan, who has come forward to say they were involved, let alone have evidence. How many people were directly involved with the Watergate scandel? 10, 20? All it took to break was for one guy to say he was involved. This conspiracy theory is magnitudes more complicated, and would take much more people. This line has been out there for a while, yet the conspiracists with their blinders on have no answer for that.
How much money do you think could be made by speaking out? More than the pension of a CIA officer I'll bet
True.... But is truth worth dying for?For all the crap out there, I have yet to see an adequate explanation for:
If indeed it was part of some grand plan, who has come forward to say they were involved, let alone have evidence. How many people were directly involved with the Watergate scandel? 10, 20? All it took to break was for one guy to say he was involved. This conspiracy theory is magnitudes more complicated, and would take much more people. This line has been out there for a while, yet the conspiracists with their blinders on have no answer for that.
How much money do you think could be made by speaking out? More than the pension of a CIA officer I'll bet
Wolf
I don't think that the Bush administration was directly involved with 9/11, but they possibly allowed it to happen to use it as justification for the massive changes they've made in the US.
As National Security Advisor Condalezza Rice admited at the 9/11 hearings that she knew Al Qaeda was planning attacks on US buildings in 2001 using aircraft, what was done to tighten security, nothing that anyone can point to. FBI field agents were making reports about arabic men taking flight lessons that focused on flying and not landing. In Florida two 9/11 hijackers stalled a small aircraft while training and left it sitting on the runway as they fled the scene, no one followed up on the incident. Two of the hijackers arrived in San Fransico and were met by a Saudi intelligence officer, the FBI was also aware of these terrorist suspects but waited two weeks to look into it. By then it was too late.
There was either a consistent incompetence shown by the White House or the attack was allowed to proceed for political purposes. Bush and Cheney have used 9/11 to justify the Patriot Act which restricts civil rights in the US, for ignoring the Geneva and other international conventions and for attacking Iraq which was not involved in the terrorist attack.
At the same time the Bush family had close ties to the Bin Ladens through The Carlyle Group and investments in George W.s oil businesses.
In my opinion Bush let 9/11 happen but didn't think it would have the calamitous result it did. He's used the event to create a virtual dictatorship in the US.
As National Security Advisor Condalezza Rice admited at the 9/11 hearings that she knew Al Qaeda was planning attacks on US buildings in 2001 using aircraft, what was done to tighten security, nothing that anyone can point to. FBI field agents were making reports about arabic men taking flight lessons that focused on flying and not landing. In Florida two 9/11 hijackers stalled a small aircraft while training and left it sitting on the runway as they fled the scene, no one followed up on the incident. Two of the hijackers arrived in San Fransico and were met by a Saudi intelligence officer, the FBI was also aware of these terrorist suspects but waited two weeks to look into it. By then it was too late.
There was either a consistent incompetence shown by the White House or the attack was allowed to proceed for political purposes. Bush and Cheney have used 9/11 to justify the Patriot Act which restricts civil rights in the US, for ignoring the Geneva and other international conventions and for attacking Iraq which was not involved in the terrorist attack.
At the same time the Bush family had close ties to the Bin Ladens through The Carlyle Group and investments in George W.s oil businesses.
In my opinion Bush let 9/11 happen but didn't think it would have the calamitous result it did. He's used the event to create a virtual dictatorship in the US.
The problem with this conspiracy and most others is that they are formulated by people who believe that three or more improbabilities add up to a probability. But the exact opposite is true. The more improbable happenings,such as,the baseball cap guy being a cia plant,the bbc reporter was given advance info,the guy who was the only one that heard the explosion in the basement,and the huge one,that they rigged up the building with explosives in one weekend,etc. all create a much more improbable theory. The people who catch cardcounters in casinos use this theory. If someone has a very good night at blackjack,they take note. If he comes back again and the same thing happens,highly improbable,they will pay very close attention and videotape him. If he has another winning night he is tossed,they know that the improbabilities do not make any sense.
Bush has changed his view and now claims that it is Iran who is in some form of conspiracy to conquer the world. First it was Iraq, then North Korea, now Iran. Who next? Canada??