Here, here!
Remind me to give you a cushy job when I finally get my turn at the top of capitalist/corporate/industrial complex that runs this country.
Socialists Will Save The World
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Here, here!
Remind me to give you a cushy job when I finally get my turn at the top of capitalist/corporate/industrial complex that runs this country.
Oh, I see where Beav is at:
0(capitalist)_____________5______________9.9999999999(Beaver's middle)_10(socialist
0(capitalist)_____________5______________9.9999999999(Beaver's middle)_10(socialist
Apparently the Liberals are finishing BC off, I was hoping to visit while you still had trees.:lol:
I'll require a medium sized office with a bar and dope smoking area and several very nice secretarys, celery is negotiable but if the dope is good I won't need any money at all.:lol:
Actually, the economy has come back and the Libs have made the largest debt payment in BC history (which, I might add, they wouldn't have had to do if the socialists hadn't DOUBLED the debt every time they got their mitts on the reins of BC).
The Dipper socialists knew we had beetle problems in the 80s and yet did NOTHING in their 11 years to remedy the problem. It was their plan that cold winters would kill the bugs off. Instead, the winters weren't cold enough and the beetles are now out of control, but the Libs (since 2001 when they got in) are at least trying to stem the beetle tide in some spots.
Don't be fooled by thinking that socialistic system is fair and provides total support for the poor. You don't know the dark side of it. And as I agree with LGilbert, it's stupid.
Even think about how many people would just love to get away from the countries where socialism is predominant. A lot of them act very patriotic, but as soon as they get a chance, money, opened door to the capitalism - poof!!! Where's that patriotism gone...:lol: but yet, when they out that door, they become patriotic again, and begin to complain, how hard the capitalistic life is, and what a perfect life they had back home, and that they were something then, now they are nothing, and all that. They forget, though, a lot. And the reason is simple, they are not used to working hard. They doomed...
And that, basically what was all about, people stopped working hard, because they had most necessary things in life, shared appartement, cheap sausages and bread. As well as alcohol. And then 70 years later it was the big economic bang, where country had no more money to supply for anybody, so all the people ended up in the situation, well, you can imagine.
In China now, people are striving for a change, would you, yourself, like to work for free, live in a bamboo hut, for the rest of your life? In a country, where you can't even vote for the new government.
I think the balance is needed, till we come up with something smarter.
Chukcha you sound like you know what you're talking about, I don't pretend that socialism is a cure for all human ailments but I do know that if our capitalist system is not modified by socialism we will destroy the planet and everything on it. I am not advocating a soviet style government, I'm advocating very basic human requirments. Working hard is not the end of human developement and it won't in many cases provide basic requirements.
PS I work harder than most capitalists I know, I do it because I love it, I also live hard.
Hey Beve you goosestepping socialist....
It's amazing to me that the product of decades of fear mongering energized by the capitalists and Republicans in the U.S. has manged to equate socialism with communism....two concepts deserving of seperate consideration.
As capitalism has moved...been exported to other nations....part of the big stick theory of our good neighbors to the south...nations have been left devastated... the list is too long to present. It isn't a 'socialist' sentiment that's been practiced through policies that saw Suharto, Pinochet, Marcos...bloody dictatorships that have killed millions and thrust many more millions into poverty..
What defeats communism and what is currently defeating captialism...is greed. Greed knows no ideological loyalty nor does it respect ethnicity or national borders."Socialism"...it's like all the other band-aid labels applied to anything that can be easily identified as the source of some percieved difficulty. It would be interesting to see how the tax structure of democratic countries compares as model to socialism....
It's amazing to me that the product of decades of fear mongering energized by the capitalists and Republicans in the U.S. has manged to equate socialism with communism....two concepts deserving of seperate consideration.
As capitalism has moved...been exported to other nations....part of the big stick theory of our good neighbors to the south...nations have been left devastated... the list is too long to present. It isn't a 'socialist' sentiment that's been practiced through policies that saw Suharto, Pinochet, Marcos...bloody dictatorships that have killed millions and thrust many more millions into poverty..
What defeats communism and what is currently defeating captialism...is greed. Greed knows no ideological loyalty nor does it respect ethnicity or national borders."Socialism"...it's like all the other band-aid labels applied to anything that can be easily identified as the source of some percieved difficulty. It would be interesting to see how the tax structure of democratic countries compares as model to socialism....
Exactly Micky, and further to that there is the perenial propaganda that capitalism builds democracy, something so funny it's pathetic.
Um, guys :| Democracy is the road to socialism and socialism is the road to communism, according to Marx.
Socialism is a method of distributing goods and services regardless of merit. Capitalism is simply the distribution of goods and services at a profit.
Capitalism and socialism both fail because not everyone wants to play by the same rules.
Socialism is a method of distributing goods and services regardless of merit. Capitalism is simply the distribution of goods and services at a profit.
Capitalism and socialism both fail because not everyone wants to play by the same rules.
Errrrr yeah right. Neither Canada nor Norway are socialist countries.
If you are holding up Cuba and Venezuela as models of succesful socialist countries, then you are worse off than I thought.
I wonder how many Cubans drown leaving their utopic lifestyle within socialist Cuba?
Venezuela's inflation and unemployment is spirraling out of control. Not to mention they are a third world country.
not to put too fine a point on it, but both systems fail because not everyone CAN play by the same rules.
Canada is still a socialist country in certain ways, though some people are not willing to admit it. Yes our fine nation was cultivated on socialist soil. It's another secret that back in the 50's and 60's, people had a better standard of living than they do today, even on their meager salaries back then. More people could afford a house and new car, the majority with only one parent working. Today, poverty is actually on the rise in Canada and has been for the past 20 years or so. Child poverty as well.
Not only that, have you taken a look at the roads around your town lately? In many cities the infrastructure of Canada is falling into serious decay. Yet, we pay more taxes now than we ever did before, although we apparently dismantled many of the socialist institutions in this country, which should have cost more for the state to run. How is it that they were so prosperous in the 50's and 60's, along with having the best health care system in the world, during the so-called Golden Age of Socialism in Canada?
Because in capitalism, it's got to be profitable to get done at all. And there's no money to be made in fixing the roads. People won't do "maintenance" in general, unless their forced to do it. It costs money, and you don't get an immediate return. So without government intervention to place standards and enforce them, people won't abide by regulations, the quality of everything gets reduced to the lowest acceptable level (to increase the capitalist profit margin). You can't run a city like that.
But the United States has demonstrated a solution to this problem: Using free or ultra cheap labour provided by prisoners and illegal immigrants. A slave class of workers to support the consumer class.
The new word for the "common" shall be- Convict
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Well Cuban refugees are "Traitors to the State". Cuba is a Utopia. A Worker's Paradise if you will. No opposition, no freedom of the press, no dissent and jail to those that do. But they have beautiful beaches that Canadians LOVE to talk about.
What other country can keep so many 54 Chevys running? :lol:
Yet many still hold out that Cuba is some sort of beacon for socialism. If anything, it should be the opposite. It should be an example to hold out in front of socialists and ask if this is how you would like to see Canada one day.
