Tories turn first question period of 2007 into extension of TV attack ads

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By Alexander Panetta
OTTAWA (CP) - It was like a 47-minute attack ad without commercial interruptions.
The ruling Conservatives used the 2007 debut of Parliament to level the same accusations in person against their chief rival as they have in a series of new TV spots. Just like the ads, the Tories repeatedly cast Stephane Dion as a failure on the environment who has done more talking than doing on climate change.
The Liberals groaned in frustration and their leader at one point angrily wagged his finger at the government benches as ministers stuck to a cookie-cutter script.
They sang the same refrain throughout Monday's question period at every possible opportunity.
Did the Conservatives finally believe in the threat of climate change, Dion asked.
"It is not sufficient to simply believe in something. One has to actually do something about it," Prime Minister Stephen Harper replied.
"(Dion) did not get it done."
Liberal defence critic Denis Coderre slapped his desk in exasperation when his opponents used a question about the aeronautics industry as a launching pad to blast past Liberal patronage.
Why wouldn't the government force Boeing to invest in Quebec's aeronautics sector in exchange for a military contract, Industry Minister Maxime Bernier was asked.
"Quebecers and Canadians voted to change the old government," he replied.
"They'd had enough of the politics of interference and patronage of the previous Liberal government."
Bernier conveniently omitted his own party's well-documented financial support for the Quebec aeronautics industry under the Mulroney government.
Amid a chorus of grumbles from the Liberal ranks, deputy House leader Lucienne Robillard heckled toward the government benches: "That's pretty weak."
Harper appeared by turns amused or indifferent. He leaned back in his front-row chair, studied papers on his desk, or fiddled with the cord leading to the earpiece that amplifies the Commons audio.
The prime minister returned to his practice of shielding himself from the taunts of his foes while answering questions by turning to his left and facing the Speaker Peter Milliken. The body language reduces his tormentors to fuzzy spots in his peripheral vision.
It was a good day for props in the Commons - a no-no according to the ancient rules of etiquette governing Commons decorum.
Natural Resources Minister Gary Lunn produced not one, but two federal documents which he used to pummel previous Liberal governments.
When his government was accused of re-announcing previous Liberal green programs, he brandished a section of an environmental report that pours scorn on the previous government.
"I know the new leader of the Liberal party pretends holier-than-thou that (Dion) is a great environmentalist," Lunn said. "Why did he not do something when he had a chance?"
The Conservatives sang a similar anti-Liberal tune when asked about Afghanistan.
Why did the defence minister last week describe the mission as "retribution" for 9-11? Isn't Canada supposed to be helping rebuild the country - not punishing it?
"When I referred to retribution, I was talking to the Chretien government's initial (2002) actions in Afghanistan," Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor replied impassively.
The dominant theme of this year's first question period, by far, was climate change.
A half-dozen Liberals wore green clothing accessories or ties, as did new Environment Minister John Baird.
When Baird was asked a question by Michael Ignatieff, he referred to one of the new Tory attack ads which includes footage of the Liberal deputy leader accusing Dion - during a leadership debate last year - of failing on the environment.
Ignatieff is among several dozen Liberals who have been assigned new roles since the end of the leadership race. Dion has surrounded himself with his former rivals, who now occupy choice seats on the front benches.
On television, Harper appears to be surrounded by female colleagues.
Polls suggest his Conservatives face a particular handicap with female voters.
That may explain why four of the five seats to his diagonal rear right - in just the perfect position for the TV cameras - are occupied by female Conservative MPs. But surrounding the tight, televised circle around Harper is a sea of masculinity.
Liberal House leader Ralph Goodale taunted Baird, who is well known for his high-decibel, furrow-browed, finger-jabbing diatribes against the previous Liberal government.
"You're turning pink, John. You're getting mad," Goodale called across the aisle.
Dion exited the chamber early and was gone well before the end of question period at 3:05 p.m.
The session concluded with Harper leaning back in his chair, cracking a smile, and playfully twirling his earpiece.


Copyright © 2007 Canadian Press
 

#juan

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Seems a bit silly and stupid to go after Dion, since Dion has never been in power as leader. Sounds like the tories are running scared.
 

DurkaDurka

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Dion has never been in power but he was the environment minister, for all his talk about the environment he didn't due a whole lot while he held that position.
 

#juan

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True enough, but Chretien was running the show, and I don't think anything was done in any ministry without Chretien's say so.
 

jjaycee98

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Mr. Harper has never liked the Media

and has certainly never made any bones about it. These ads are IMO designed to put forth their point of view rather than letting the media manipulate the opinion and the eventual vote of the electorite. The Liberals and the CBC have been hand in pocket for ever.
 

ottawabill

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and has certainly never made any bones about it. These ads are IMO designed to put forth their point of view rather than letting the media manipulate the opinion and the eventual vote of the electorite. The Liberals and the CBC have been hand in pocket for ever.
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couldn't have said it better!!! The so called CBC is the most bias piece of you know what on TV..outside of maybe Fox..however the CBC outright says it isn't ha!!

I truley don't like attach ads..the only serve a very short term purpose and have people vote or change their votes under conditions that have little to do with governing a country .... However with that said the guy who watched all those liberal convension tapes and clicked in is a GOD!!!

I don't believe the Conservative are scared at all, more likely, they are looking to push their fortunes over the top... likely if an election were held now they would be in again but with the same number of seats.... Unfortunely for Mr. Dion his personallity and english skill sets make even Mr, Harper seem animated....
 

#juan

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Harper and his henchmen shouldn't dig too far into the past. Somebody might discover Brian Bulroney's debt that our great grand children will still be paying off.:evil3:
 

MMMike

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Dion has never been in power but he was the environment minister, for all his talk about the environment he didn't due a whole lot while he held that position.

Dion was not in the position long, and in our democracy all decisions run from our Dear Leader (the PM). Anyways, the way the Cons huff and puff (and rightly so) about the Liberals' inaction on climate change is laughable. While the Liberals dragged their feet and sacrificed the environment for economic expediency, the Cons actively campaigned against any action at all! Hell, Harper himself rambled about "so-called" green house gases just a few short weeks ago.

These attack ads are pure spin, and no-one's buying.
 

#juan

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Dion was not in the position long, and in our democracy all decisions run from our Dear Leader (the PM). Anyways, the way the Cons huff and puff (and rightly so) about the Liberals' inaction on climate change is laughable. While the Liberals dragged their feet and sacrificed the environment for economic expediency, the Cons actively campaigned against any action at all! Hell, Harper himself rambled about "so-called" green house gases just a few short weeks ago.

These attack ads are pure spin, and no-one's buying.

Are you trying to confuse the issue with logic? :)
 

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Yeah, if anything it shows just how flimsy the "cover" for the oft-laughed-at "REAL agenda" was...

I mean, the attack ads themselves are actually embarassing to me, simply because it shows our current ruling party has basically done NOTHING... Obviously if the only thing they have to say is how bad the other options are, they are clueless and sinking fast...

I mean, why wouldn't the Cons point to all the good things they've done, why focus on what someone else may or may not have done?? If the cons had ANYTHING to be proud of (beyond "women in afghanistan are going to school" which is patently ridiculous and of NO consequence to prety much anyone in our country, which is the country Haper's supposed to be fixing up, not some crap-hole in the desert) you'd think they would try to focus on THAT instead, but no...

It's funny to see it happen.. yesterdya there were quotes from HArper saying some beautiful garbage about how he HOPES the opposition wouldn't be so dumb as to try and overthrow the government, floating straw men like that is insulting to anyone with a brain- gues they've found their "base" and "smart" doesn't matter anymore
 

Zzarchov

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Id hardly call the Tories "ruling"

They are a right wing minority , surrounded by an overall left wing majority who can't stop squabbling.
 

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I find it very annoying that politicians seem to function only by putting each other down, rather than trying to display what's good about themselves. In the UK at the last round of elections the tories were terrible, and had giant posters everywhere which basically slagged off the labour party. It made them seem childish and stupid.
 

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How dare they bring up the past right....

Distorting the past is more like it. The CP ads are relying on people's ignorance. They point out an increase in carbon emissions over more than a decade (1990 - now), and then try to blame Stéphane Dion because he was the last Liberal environment minister. What they neglect to mention is that Dion was only the environment minister for about a year and a half, under the Liberal minority government of Paul Martin. During that time, he tried very hard to push through a real clean air bill, which the Conservative fought against tooth and nail. Dion didn't even begin working for the party until after the 1995 referendum, after that he became unity minister at which he did a fantastic job. The CP are deliberately trying to mislead the public by making a false parallel... which is what I would call basically lying.

Everyone knows that Conservatives have not only NEVER been concerned about climate change, and that most of them don't even recognise its existence and most of them have in fact worked against changing laws to reduce our carbon footprint over the years. It's only now that the environment has become the #1 issue among Canadians (perhaps the CP's largest weakness), that they have begun paying green lip-service. And that's all it is. The CP has no intention of really making a difference... only in doing a bit of misdirection... like when in the same week they unveil a new green strategy AND quietly announce that they will be working to augment Alberta oil production (the #1 greenhouse gas contributer in the country) by 100% so that ALL that oil can be sold to the U.S. They say one thing, they do another.



Also, while it may be true that emissions have risen since 1990, to be fair, in 1990 almost nobody had the environment as a matter of real concern. So the CP can cast blame on anyone they want, the plain facts are they just don't care about the environment, and they never have. They themselves have nothing to be proud of on this subject.

I have also heard an consevative MP use the term "flip flopping" (so contrived) to Monsieur Dion's subject, and what a clue that is to what the CP is really up to... they've been taking notes from the US Republican party's comeback, which they enjoyed for about 8 years. They will use the same sort of dishonest, rhetorical techniques the Republicans have been using to win (and sometimes steal) election in the States. Mudslinging, catchphrase repetition (buzzwords). Just pay attention to how ALL CP members will be saying the same catchphrases between now and the end of the next elections. Luckily, the CP just isn't as good at it as the Repugs, the Canadian people aren't buying it, and our public watchdog (the CBC) isn't for sale (unlike the US media).
 

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It's funny how short-sighted politics can be. Sure emissions rose under the liberals, they aren't exactly the greenest party out there, though I'd peg them one up on the conservatives. The liberal motto to me has always been, sway with the wind, whatever the majority wants, that's our position. The difference with Dion is, that he has some experience in this portfolio and as leader he feels that is the best place to start. He was the Minister of the Environment from July '04 to February '06, the majority of that being in a minority government. Of course he couldn't get much done, the Conservatives have only given a damn about the environment since polls showed what Canada thought and their effort has been inadequate, almost patronizing.

Lets review shall we? Legislation/initiatives attempted under Minister Dion:
First, although Canada had allready signed Kyoto, it only came into affect after Russia signed in Feb.'05.
March '05, the Government the Automakers reach an agreement on emission standards in principle to cut greenhouse gases by 5.3 megatonnes by 2010.

April '05, the Government pulls a provision which had no support from NDP, Bloc, or Conservatives that would have made greenhouse gases a controlled substance. Incidently the current Government is claiming to be the first in the world to attempt controlling emissions.
Also that month, the Government announced plans to ammend their Kyoto strategy. More money aimed at reducing emmisions by 270 megatonnes per year for the period between 2008-12. Part of the $10 billion dollar plan included renewable energy incentives, while only asking industry to reduce emissions by 14%, which had enviromentalists crying foul.
November '05, Alberta files formal complaint, protecting the oil industry which has long opposed the accord.

Now we have a new Government only 2 months later.
Three months after taking office, Ambrose begins her 7 month hot air speech about the Governments central component of it's environement strategy. Meanwhile the Government scraps programs aimed at reducing emissions, only to reintroduce them as public outcry gets louder. I have to give them Kudos here, for at least bringing them back, hopefully they work better, that remains to be seen. Another good move, enters a pact which includes Asian countries like China and India, something the Kyoto accord does not. However the pact is only voluntary.
In May, included in the budget is a tax credit for those who use public transportation. Nothing new until the Clean Air Act is released in October, which was high on talk, apparently not so much on walk. It's being ripped apart by the opposition now for failing to set any kind of short term targets, something the current Government has openly criticized the past Government for failed attempts, when they make none.

I'm just pleased the environment is finally getting the attention it sorely deserves. It may seem like I'm critical and biased here, and that's true. I've cared about the environment for a long time, and not very much has been done. Even Mr. Bush has recently admitted that global warming seems 90% certain to have been affected by our human hand. The Conservative party was against anything resembling environment mitigation which might require industry to shoulder it's fair share, though now they have taken a page from the Liberal book on how to sit the fence on certain issues. I just feel there is some context here that the Conservatives are skipping over for political gain and no one ever calls them on their claims. For all the CBC criticisms I've seen, not once have I ever heard one of their reporters dig past the last 10 months when they are addressing the current Governments action here.

But, enough ranting for now...
 

#juan

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But, enough ranting for now...
But that was a fine rant...................I agree with everything.

Hell, I just read a little blurb about an American who suggested that if global warming got too bad, we could spread some reflective dust in the upper atmosphere. Just one question: If we did do something like that, and it did cause the Earth to cool, How do we stop it when it's cool enough?