Bush plot to merge Canada, the U.S. and Mexico

normbc9

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Hey Silky! Greetings from down under at Tom Price, Pubara, Western Australia. The Aussies finally got us some 800 phone service for our laptops. If you think the North American Security idea is causing some consternation in our continent you ought to hear what they think of the idea down here. They fear another idea of this kind advocating the unison of Indonesia and other republics to their north and boy is it a sore subject. They are all telling me to keep our conversations alive and if we stay united this idea will die out as the real idea makers are all in their late years of life and maybe this will pass on after they do. Bad situation down here. 90's and 100's during the day and mid 80's at night. Almost 0% humidity and no rain fall in seven months. Every unit of weather is measuered in celcius or liquid metric units. The Canadians are in Queensland, Victoria and New South Wales. The Portugese, Spanish and Italians are here with us.
 

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Hey Silky! Greetings from down under at Tom Price, Pubara, Western Australia. The Aussies finally got us some 800 phone service for our laptops. If you think the North American Security idea is causing some consternation in our continent you ought to hear what they think of the idea down here. They fear another idea of this kind advocating the unison of Indonesia and other republics to their north and boy is it a sore subject. They are all telling me to keep our conversations alive and if we stay united this idea will die out as the real idea makers are all in their late years of life and maybe this will pass on after they do. Bad situation down here. 90's and 100's during the day and mid 80's at night. Almost 0% humidity and no rain fall in seven months. Every unit of weather is measuered in celcius or liquid metric units. The Canadians are in Queensland, Victoria and New South Wales. The Portugese, Spanish and Italians are here with us.


Hi::wave:

Interesting comment about how the Australians are viewing the vision and plan of the new world order and one world government. I love the Aussies that I have met over my life time, because they are so quick to catch on and a down to earth persona, much like many Americans I know.

In fact, I have been researching the visa requirements to migrate there, it looks like 3 months and apply for an extension, which is what we would do before going thru formal residency filing. New Zealand is really being selective (which is good) by mandating a deposit of 2 million dollars for a investor/retirement citizenship, which they hold for several years and give you a current interest rate return. That's do-able, however, handing over that much money to a government for deposit doesn't set well with my sense and trust of governments, even if they promise to return the initial amount after several years. I would have never imagined that I would want to live any place other than the US, however, the way things are going here with NAU, I just don't want to see that change in my lifetime.

Regarding some of the visionaries of the new world order growing old and the idea will go away, I don't think so. There is way too much momentum going on thru the CRF and other illuminates to carry the vision forward.:pale:

Listed below are some recent articles that ultimately are related to the NAU that I thought you might want to look at:

Law would make Minutemen guilty of 'domestic terrorism'
'Patrolling to detect alleged illegal activity'
while carrying any weapon would be felony
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53857


Tense moments revealed in Guard border incident.
Armed intruders surrounded unit in Jan. 3 face-off
http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/165457.php

Governor Schwarzenegger's proposal to provide health insurance
to illegal aliens strikes us as a bad news, good news situation.
http://vdare.com/rubenstein/070119_nd.htm

The "Mexicanization" of America, Courtesy of George W. Bush
http://liberalismisinsanity.blogspot.com/2007/01/mexicanization-of-america-courtesy-of.html

‘Integration’ Is Destructive To Our Way Of Life
http://www.stpns.net/view_article.html?articleId=20949797547562977
 

normbc9

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More from down under. We are in the Pilbara region, not the Pubar Region and our conversations here with the other personnel from abroad about the SPP is really getting lively. The Portugese are telling us to kill it in it's infancy. They pay a 16% EU tax on any purchase they make. To date, there is no accountability for where the tax money goes or how it is used. My guess is it is burned up paying for the administration of the EU. The State of the Union speech was flop. What part of the USA is Baghdad in besides the coffee shop on Route 66 in the Mojave? I never heard any major city of any specific data about the State of the Union. This befuddled Maine transplant sure has the Texans riled up too. To my Canadian friends, your fire personnel are east of us but really doing a great job. Victoria, New South Wales and South Australia are all in desperate straits right now.
 

silky

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More from down under. We are in the Pilbara region, not the Pubar Region and our conversations here with the other personnel from abroad about the SPP is really getting lively. The Portugese are telling us to kill it in it's infancy. They pay a 16% EU tax on any purchase they make. To date, there is no accountability for where the tax money goes or how it is used. My guess is it is burned up paying for the administration of the EU. The State of the Union speech was flop. What part of the USA is Baghdad in besides the coffee shop on Route 66 in the Mojave? I never heard any major city of any specific data about the State of the Union. This befuddled Maine transplant sure has the Texans riled up too. To my Canadian friends, your fire personnel are east of us but really doing a great job. Victoria, New South Wales and South Australia are all in desperate straits right now.

Norm, you must be exausted if you're fighting those fires in Victoria, etc.:

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/Images/victoria_amo_2006363_lrg.jpg

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/shownh.php3?img_id=13994

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/NaturalHazards/shownh.php3?img_id=14074

I hit the hi resolution sat. photos of the fires on the above sites and they are numerous, and looks difficult to get too.

Your critique is correct about the SOU speech, lip service and platitudes. Will write more when I have time in the next couple of days. Take care of yourself.
 

PsyOp

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Um... Bush will be gone shortly(end of his term) so you can all relax your cia/mossad/kgb/fake-moon-landing/magic bullet/wtc/roswell/..ad nauseum sphincters

Bush will leave, the neo-con will stay.


If they want to merge the U.S to mexico its because they want cheap labour that basically give them their capitalism dream.

For Canada, maybe its becoming a treat as a mean its getting better than the U.S as a place to live. :drunken: With uncle George, everything is possible.
 

thomaska

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Bush will leave, the neo-con will stay.


If they want to merge the U.S to mexico its because they want cheap labour that basically give them their capitalism dream.

For Canada, maybe its becoming a treat as a mean its getting better than the U.S as a place to live. :drunken: With uncle George, everything is possible.

The cheap labor is already here, and if we had wanted Mexico, we would have taken all of it, instead of just the good parts back during the Mexican-American war.

And I can't really imagine Canada being a better place to live, I mean, hell, half the posts on this entire Forum are about how your government sucks, and is full of thieves and liars. So how is it any different than the U.S?
 

PsyOp

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The cheap labor is already here, and if we had wanted Mexico, we would have taken all of it, instead of just the good parts back during the Mexican-American war.

And I can't really imagine Canada being a better place to live, I mean, hell, half the posts on this entire Forum are about how your government sucks, and is full of thieves and liars. So how is it any different than the U.S?

I don't really believe in that plot anyway. I don't think they want to merge Canada to the U.S. I think they want the Canada to be more at the right. As for Mexico i don't know, but i'm sure they let the immigrant enter for cheap labor.

I'm not saying Canada is a better place to live. In fact, i almost believe the U,S is better. This is just my personal taste. But if the U.S government keep doing serious **** like what is going on under the neo-con regime, i think Canada could be a better place to live. I'm not sure if you know, but a lot of people are freaking scare of your governmental by now, this is no joke...
 

thomaska

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I don't really believe in that plot anyway. I don't think they want to merge Canada to the U.S. I think they want the Canada to be more at the right. As for Mexico i don't know, but i'm sure they let the immigrant enter for cheap labor.

I'm not saying Canada is a better place to live. In fact, i almost believe the U,S is better. This is just my personal taste. But if the U.S government keep doing serious **** like what is going on under the neo-con regime, i think Canada could be a better place to live. I'm not sure if you know, but a lot of people are freaking scare of your governmental by now, this is no joke...

It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both.
Niccolo Machiavelli
 

silky

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Norm: the following are some news articles from back home, site address on top line with the lead paragraph of contents.

Thomaska and PsyOp: "It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both" ... I want both or I want out. This one world government cabal is only good for the elite they want to rule the sheeple workers. This idea is obvious by the way they are eroding the middle class Americans, the name of the game is distribution of wealth and power of the middle class to up lift the poverty of the third world nations. Orwell's 1984 is 23 years behind schedule that's all, the story is the same.

Good articles from the past couple of days: :read2:
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http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53947
Rep. Virgil Goode, R-Va., has introduced a House resolution expressing congressional opposition to construction of a NAFTA Super Highway System or entry into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada.
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http://blog.vdare.com/archives/author/brenda-walker/
Last night, Lou Dobbs interviewed Council of Foreign Relations member Robert Pastor, considered by many the architect of the North American Union, an EU-like political merger of the US, Canada and Mexico created in secret:
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http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2007/01/26/bush-says-mexicans-have-to-sneak-in/
“ We cannot fully secure the border unless we take pressure off the border – and that requires a temporary worker program. We should establish a legal and orderly path for foreign workers to enter our country to work on a temporary basis. As a result, they won’t have to try to sneak in – and that will leave border agents free to chase down drug smugglers, and criminals, and terrorists.”

Notice Bush says if we have a “temporary” worker program “they won’t have to try to sneak in” implying that currently they have to come to the U.S. , so they might as well be legalized.
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http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53950
Congressmen and a policy official of the Department of Transportation engaged in a spirited exchange over whether NAFTA Super Highways were a threat to U.S. sovereignty or an imaginary "Internet conspiracy," such as the "black helicopter myths," advanced by fringe lunatics.
(This guy just dug a hole for himself and placed himself in a lie, he should see this site): http://www.nascocorridor.com/
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http://sun.yumasun.com/artman/publish/articles/story_29571.php
One Border Patrol agent was nearly struck with a vehicle and two more nearly drowned within the past 10 days.

Yuma sector spokesman Chris Van Wagenen said these types of incidents are something the Border Patrol expects. He said those who profit from illegal activity are not going to give up control of the border without a fight.
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http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2007/01/terrorism_charge_for_guarding.html
Terrorism Charge For Guarding U.S. Border
Comparing civilian groups that help guard the U.S.-Mexico border to the Ku Klux Klan, an Arizona lawmaker has introduced a bill that would charge them with domestic terrorism and send them to jail.
The proposed legislation would revise Arizona statutes on organized crime and fraud to include individuals and groups, such as the Minutemen Project, that patrol in search of illegal activity and are not formally affiliated with a law enforcement agency.
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http://wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=5985700

Walker police are dealing with what they say is an "overwhelming" number of illegal immigrants in the area. They have teamed with border patrol and I.C.E., a Homeland Security agency to try to curb the problem.
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http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/local/39768.php
The annual post-holiday spike in U.S.-Mexico border traffic appears to be in full bloom, despite earlier indications that the federal buildup along the border reduced illegal immigration through Arizona.

Grupo Beta, an immigrant aid group of the Mexican government, estimated that 1,800 to 2,400 immigrants crossed through its checkpoint south of Sasabe every day since mid-January. The figure keeps pace with the flow last year at this time, the group's director, Victor Armendariz, said Wednesday.
 

silky

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Was this Machiavelli a military man??

Looks like he was philosopher:
Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli (May 3, 1469 – June 21, 1527) was a political philosopher, musician, poet, and romantic comedic playwright. He is a key figure of the Italian Renaissance and a central figure of its political component, most widely known for his treatises on realist political theory (The Prince) on the one hand and republicanism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccolò_Machiavelli
 
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This is a better thread.

 

normbc9

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It is amazing about how these good people down under are following this CRF proposal and also how disliked FR is by most I speak with. There is no doubt that many of the proposed mergers of nations and economies is part af the over-all Globalization concept. Like the prior attempts by many advanced previous civilizations to accomplish this the localized issues spwecific to a geographic location will never allow it to really materialize. But the secret US Congrssional Committee meetings do continue. With Chris Dodd announcing his candidacy as a presidential contender maybe his time as Co-Chair with Libby Dole will be compromised? But the CFR is still pouring millions into funding to hopefully be the seed money to greatly enrich them.
 

Northboy

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Looks like he was philosopher:
Niccolò di Bernardo dei Machiavelli (May 3, 1469 – June 21, 1527) was a political philosopher, musician, poet, and romantic comedic playwright. He is a key figure of the Italian Renaissance and a central figure of its political component, most widely known for his treatises on realist political theory (The Prince) on the one hand and republicanism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccolò_Machiavelli

Ah, an inspired philosopher... but inspired by whom??? or inspired by what???

Man's statements such as these usually come from their experiental learning...

You have to look at the context of his life to see what he was being taught...
 

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Bush plot to merge Canada, the U.S. and Mexico Reply to Thread

It is amazing about how these good people down under are following this CRF proposal and also how disliked FR is by most I speak with. There is no doubt that many of the proposed mergers of nations and economies is part af the over-all Globalization concept. Like the prior attempts by many advanced previous civilizations to accomplish this the localized issues spwecific to a geographic location will never allow it to really materialize. But the secret US Congrssional Committee meetings do continue. With Chris Dodd announcing his candidacy as a presidential contender maybe his time as Co-Chair with Libby Dole will be compromised? But the CFR is still pouring millions into funding to hopefully be the seed money to greatly enrich them.

Good news that something is finally being proposed from Congress:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.+Con.+Res.+40:

Rep Goode's HCR 40 Will Stop NAFTA Superhighway And NAU
United States Representative Virgil H. Goode, Jr. (R-VA-5th District)

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Expressing the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a North... (Introduced in House)


HCON 40 IH
110th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. CON. RES. 40

Expressing the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 22, 2007

Mr. GOODE (for himself, Mr. WAMP, Mr. JONES of North Carolina, Mr. PAUL, Mr. STEARNS, Mr. DUNCAN, and Ms. FOXX) submitted the following concurrent resolution; which was referred to the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure, and in addition to the Committee on Foreign Affairs, for a period to be subsequently determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

CONCURRENT RESOLUTION

Expressing the sense of Congress that the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System or enter into a North American Union with Mexico and Canada.

Whereas the United States Departments of State, Commerce, and Homeland Security participated in the formation of the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) on March 23, 2005, representing a tri-lateral agreement between the United States, Canada, and Mexico designed, among other things, to facilitate common regulatory schemes between these countries;

Whereas reports issued by the SPP indicate that it has implemented regulatory changes among the three countries that circumvent United States trade, transportation, homeland security, and border security functions and that the SPP will continue to do so in the future;

Whereas the actions taken by the SPP to coordinate border security by eliminating obstacles to migration between Mexico and the United States actually makes the United States-Mexico border less secure because Mexico is the primary source country of illegal immigrants into the United States;

Whereas according to the Department of Commerce, United States trade deficits with Mexico and Canada have significantly increased since the implementation of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA);

Whereas the economic and physical security of the United States is impaired by the potential loss of control of its borders attendant to the full operation of NAFTA and the SPP;

Whereas the regulatory and border security changes implemented and proposed by the SPP violate and threaten United States sovereignty;

Whereas a NAFTA Superhighway System from the west coast of Mexico through the United States and into Canada has been suggested as part of a North American Union to facilitate trade between the SPP countries;

Whereas the State of Texas has already begun planning of the Trans-Texas Corridor, a major multi-modal transportation project beginning at the United States-Mexico border, which would serve as an initial section of a NAFTA Superhighway System;

Whereas it could be particularly difficult for Americans to collect insurance from Mexican companies which employ Mexican drivers involved in accidents in the United States, which would likely increase the insurance rates for American drivers;

Whereas future unrestricted foreign trucking into the United States can pose a safety hazard due to inadequate maintenance and inspection, and can act collaterally as a conduit for the entry into the United States of illegal drugs, illegal human smuggling, and terrorist activities; and

Whereas a NAFTA Superhighway System would likely include funds from foreign consortiums and be controlled by foreign management, which threatens the sovereignty of the United States: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That--

(1) the United States should not engage in the construction of a North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) Superhighway System;

(2) the United States should not allow the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) to implement further regulations that would create a North American Union with Mexico and Canada; and

(3) the President of the United States should indicate strong opposition to these acts or any other proposals that threaten the sovereignty of the United States.


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silky

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An interesting article from Judicial Watch based on the Freedom of Information request about the meeting in Sept, 2006, regarding the Intergration of North America:

Judicial Watch is a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation, promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law.

Judicial Watch Releases Pentagon Records from “North American Forum” Meetings
http://www.judicialwatch.org/6123.shtml

Defense Secretary, Senior Military and Staff Met with Mexican & Canadian Officials over “Continental Prosperity in the New Security Environment”

The notes for the presentations document the need to overcome popular opposition to North American integration: “To what degree does a concept of North America help/hinder solving problems between the three countries?…While a vision is appealing working on the infrastructure might yield more benefit and bring more people on board (‘evolution by stealth’).”

“It is not encouraging to see the phrase ‘evolution by stealth’ in reference to important policy debates such as North American integration and cooperation,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “These documents provide more information to Americans concerned about the Security and Prosperity Partnership. The more transparency, the better.”
 

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Good News for Canada!

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/February2007/09/c6604.html

Attention News Editors:

High-level meeting aimed at integrating North America says Council of Canadians

OTTAWA, Feb. 9 /CNW Telbec/ - North American integration will be the
primary focus of a high-level trinational meeting scheduled for February 23,
says the Council of Canadians. U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and
Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff will be in Ottawa to meet with
Foreign Affairs Minister Peter MacKay, Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day,
Trade Minister David Emerson and their Mexican counterparts.
"While recent media reports have claimed that the meeting will focus on
border security," says Maude Barlow, national chairperson of the Council of
Canadians, "we know that the goal of this meeting is to advance a much larger
corporate-led agenda for North American integration - something our government
has been very secretive about."
A September 2006 report issued by the governments of Canada, the U.S. and
Mexico stated that the upcoming meeting would take place in order to "review
progress" on the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP) and "develop
concrete initiatives" in preparation for the leaders' summit expected to take
place in Kananaskis in June 2007.
"The Security and Prosperity Partnership goes beyond simply the passport
issue," says Jean-Yves Lefort, trade campaigner for the Council of Canadians.
"The agreement calls for 300 policy changes in Canada, the U.S. and Mexico and
gives wide-ranging powers to the business elite without any consideration for
the public interest or the environment."
The North American Competitiveness Council, a business advisory body to
the SPP representing North America's largest corporations, will be presenting
recommendations at the upcoming meeting.
The Council of Canadians is demanding that Canada cease all further
participation in the Security and Prosperity Partnership and that Stephen
Harper consult with Canadians in a meaningful way on Canada-U.S. relations.
 

normbc9

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I'm preparing to leave the down under for the states but their media says the US just granted Mexico a twenty acre piece of real estate for their use for the Mexican Customs Service inspectors in the Kansas City area and it is sovereign Mexican soil. Step two of the NAFTA Super Highway. These are all building blocks for the foundation to the tri-country proposed merger. The secret meetings continue in Washington and now they are sending out US Administration delegates to the Canada and Mexico to get more of that foundation planned. The more opposition the Council on Foreign Relations sees, the more they pump up their financial contributions to help advance their cause. There is some serious money behind this power grab than can be seen up front. The Rockefeller, Ford, PEW and Packard Foundations are all feeding the checkbook. There is surly some big contributors from both of the other countries too.