That's exactly the problem. My parents remember when eastern european immigrants were considered undesirable, despite the fact that they were white and Christian. My grandmother was deeply ashamed of her Polish last name. Different religious groups are just the newest immigrant boogeymen. We'll survive them as we've survived every other group to immigrate here.
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That's exactly the problem. My parents remember when eastern european immigrants were considered undesirable, despite the fact that they were white and Christian. My grandmother was deeply ashamed of her Polish last name. Different religious groups are just the newest immigrant boogeymen. We'll survive them as we've survived every other group to immigrate here.
By the time the grandchildren of these peple are born, they will be fully Canadian. My mother's family came from Hungary and the Ukraine. By our generation, you'd never know that was their ancestral roots.
It's the same in my family. My great-grandparents come from a mix of european countries. My brother and I can't describe ourselves as anything but Canadian.
Early Canada, now dismissively called Old Canada, was predominantly settled by Europeans. Different countries and languages but linked by a Judeo-Christian background and a common respect for the rule of law. It worked. They learned English if they didn't know it already and they assimllated. All studies I've seen for the last few years are flashing warning lights as newcomers, predominantly visible minorities, and many from different belief systems, report that they aren't integrating and they often feel as large an attachment to their 'home' country as Canada. Ontario's Premier Dalton McGuinty unwittingly summarized the dilemma well lately in characterizing multiculturalism as a "bold experiment" and one untried before. Goodie for him. It is not the business of government elites to dismiss a country's traditions and heritage and shop for moulds for its new vision of what we should be. That power belongs to the electorate.
Muslims have repeatedly boasted they will unseat western culture and do it in its strongholds, Europe and the US. They have an excellent start. Much more organized and persistent than Christian-based peoples, they will undoubtedly succeed.
Muslims have repeatedly boasted they will unseat western culture and do it in its strongholds, Europe and the US. They have an excellent start. Much more organized and persistent than Christian-based peoples, they will undoubtedly succeed.
Funny when I see a woman in a burka standing beside other people wearing other things, it makes me feel like I live in a tolerant society.
Just because other nations are intolerant doesn't mean we should also become intolerant.
Dress codes can be a good thing as long as they are based on function. Tank tops and bikini bottoms may be appropriate on the beach, but not in the workplace, unless its too hot and there's no air conditioning.
But this case is really about bigotry. There is no practical reason to ban headscarves. The real reason behind the ban is cultural intolerance.
Uniforms should not be absolute either. I don't have a problem with minor variations to accomodate other cultures. Sikh police officers for example should be able to wear a turban along with the standard uniform. As long as the resulting uniform clearly identifies the personas a police officer, it still fulfills its function.
When immigrants come to Canada, they are required to obey Canadian laws, but they should not be required to adopt our customs. That goes against the concept of a multicultural society. Our customs are voluntary.
Do what you want personally, but don't try to impose your culture or culture based prejudices, misperceptions... on others.
http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/003263.html
They're a long way off from anything close to an electoral majority. Europeans are still the largest group emigrating to Canada. None of the Muslims I know wish to fundamentaly change our society. Those nut-bar fundamentalists are the reason these people are emigrating here in the first place.
I believe that was the point I was trying to make earlier. Before the meraid of post that condemned "non christian" beliefs and customs.
I think that exactly what you are worried about happening, will happen... if we are intolerant and force our own views upon immigrants. But, a funny thing happens when Muslim families move here, especially from very devout communities. They get to see what tolerance and freedom is like. They learn that church CAN be seperate, and that their faith doesn't need to be applied in any and all forums outside of their mosques. Very few people are willing to give up that kind of freedom to go back to Islamic law. Social change effects change within a church... the Catholic church is a prime example, just look at all the pagan holidays we celebrate. Islam will change too when practised within our society. Show tolerance, and it will be learned. And one day, you may see those Muslim teachers happily heading off to school, not wearing their headscarves, of their own volition, not because it was a government order. But show intolerance and oppress their culture, and you'll see hatred grow instead of tolerance, and even though they may dress the way you want, what they think will be quite the opposite.
We are required to wear underwear. The main thing is that they be invisible under our scrubs. No wild colours under white scrub pants, no g-strings showing above our scrub pants, bras are required and also must be invisible under clothing, etc. This is actually included in our employee manual.
How sad is it that we run around in outfits that necessitate dress codes to explain that underwear shouldn't be visible (I'm assuming your dress code is much like other that say shirts should not be see through, and thongs should not be hanging out, etc.), and yet, people still object to Muslim headscarves.
Frankly, I'd feel less oppressed as a woman if I was forced to wear a headscarf, than I do in current society, where the pressure to wear the 'in' clothes is so high that 180lb girls are wearing tight t's and hip hugger jeans with a thong peaking out of a roll at the back.
nah, so long as you keep your lime green thong with whatever trampy thing is written at its top (s..t, vixen, tramp, h..ny...etc.), tucked neatly away under your pants, you'll be fine. oh, and make sure you don't wear a bra with your tube top, no matter how nicely bejeweled the straps are. see, it says so in the manual. :evil3:
*actually laughing out loud*
It just makes me laugh. I can't imagine going to work with my underwear showing, but you know some little hoochie nurse must have done it enough times for it to have found its way into the employee manual.
I hate those ****ty fashions btw. I'm way less offended by seeing a headscarf than I am seeing a woman with her vagina hanging out.
There's got to be NOTHING creepier than teenage girls who have to wax to wear their jeans. UGH.
*sorry, I'll correct myself, there is something creepier, and that's when 40 yr old women have to*
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This image popped into my head of the crazy Englishman running amok down whyte ave., wearing nothing but those cliche red long johns with the trapdoor at the back.