Bush plot to merge Canada, the U.S. and Mexico

[RomSpaceKnight]

It's a null issue. Canadians have zero interest in merging with the US. I can see the advantage for Mexico but what does Canada get out of it? NAFTA gives us access to the US market and we hold all the natural resources. Maybe just maybe an North American Union similiar to the EU but I doubt it very much. It would end the US's illegal alien problem because then they would not be illegal aliens. Yanks are way to aggressive, xenophobic and gun happy to be acceptable to Canadians for any meaningful merger. Heck next to hockey Yank bashing is our favourite sport. Our comedians need and independent US to earn money. The Royal Canadian AIr Farce and Rick Mercer would be out of work in an instant.

 

[normbc9]

Hey Silky, i've been gone on fires and now I'm homwe for a few days before we are sent down under to join the BC Ministry of Forests contingent already down there helping out with the terrible bush fire situation. I did notice that the new Mexican Border fence plan is now rapidly changing and before it is finished I'm sure the US will be small business loans to the folks on the other side of the border so they can get into here to get to work. I did read what you pointed out and that is sure an informational article too. While all the bobbing and weaving is going on in the political ring in Washington the Global Control Zealots are meeting daily still and my source tells me they now sense there is some opposition to this idea out there and their pace is now accelerating. The CFR monies are being made increasingly more available. Why not? The controller of those monies stand to make billions and even trillions of dollars (or whatever monetary unit used) and if this game slips into oblivion which I hope it does they are out a lot of money. It is a big gamble but if they put enough lipstick on this pig they may try to sell it for a beauty queen. I love the Canadian people and also the Mexicans and all have a lot of national pride and a lot to be proud of. What I oppose is this attempt to wipe all of that out in order for a small well healed group to just "pile it on." all the rest of us. If and when this happens (and God I sure hope not!) all of us regardless of national origin will come out losers. Whose National Anthem do we use. Whose flag do we salute and having flying over our buildings? Whose military and weaponry systems do we use. What form of a Constitution would we have and what happens to our other important foundation items like the US Bill of rights or whatever Canada or Mexico have will be preserved? Who answers all of these questions too? I'll bet it won't be any of us working folks and I'll also bet the small politicians who are aware of this won't be included either. That is why I participate in this forum. In the US you'll never see it being discussed as freely as we all do here. We may not agree but we all do talk and openly discuss the issues. I'm waiting to see how the current US administration is going to handle the building opposition to it's other follies like undeclared wars and holding of foreign nationals without benefit of any legal process. I recognize the dangers of the spreading eztremists and their dislike for westerners but the answer isn't what the US is currently engaged in. If it was acceptable how come more nations haven't joined in their support of these activities?

 

[silky]

Hey Norm, I googled the fires in Bruthen area of Australia to see what you will be dealing with, used the hybrid view to see the terrain and it looks like you will have your work cut out for you. Hope the situation is somewhat contained by the time you arrive. I wish you a safe journey and job task.

Regarding the NAU, yes, events and circumstances are starting to accelerate such as:

1. The fence will not be built.

2. In Sasabe, Arizona (very near the Mexican border) last week, there was an incursion on our National Guard troops by a group (5 men) of Mexican military types carrying AK47's. Our NG had to retreat because that is their orders in this political dog and pony show that our NG troops of 1,400 and not the 6,000 that the press states. The NG is there for show only as extra eyes for the BP. http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=5902438&nav=HMO6HMaY

3. Then on Christmas eve many locals here in AZ prepared hundreds of gift bags of for the NG because they were away from their families, and our Governor Janet Napolitano, refused to allow NG troops receive them, so I had 15 gift bags on my hands and did not want to give it to charity because they are famous for giving everything away to illegals. So I just distributed them to all our neighbors. Sorry for the personal diversion guess I'm still not over it.

4. Then there was the situation we learned about last week that Mexico is giving their citizens GPS devices for their criminal journey across the AZ desert to invade the US (I know you will have to re-read that cause you won't believe your eyes. For backup:
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=17&art_id=35131&sid=11554548&con_type=1
and http://www.corruptionchronicles.com/2007/01/mexican_government_promotes_il.html

5. Then we hear that the Mexican government is also handing out cartoon illustrated guides for the invaders making the illegal trip up through the desert, just take a look at their website:
http://www.sre.gob.mx/english/
Go to the Recommended Links box and click on Guide for Mexican Travelers (after you finish laughing and throwing up on your computer ; ) It just keeps getting better doesn't it?

6. Then we hear that there is a bill on Prez Bush's desk that will allow illegal alien invaders to receive US Social Security benefits after working only 18 months, while it takes American citizens 10 years of working before they are eligible. Yes, you read that right. http://www.newswithviews.com/NWVexclusive/exclusive112.htm
and http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53613

Well I've been typing a lot and my fingers are tired, however, there is so much more to tell you about that has happened in the past couple of weeks. Think I'll take a break for the night and continue tomorrow.

 

[normbc9]

Hey Silky. Thanks for the down under information. We are going to Western Australia and will be 200 kilometers north of Perth. The deal with the NG troops and your generousity is really heartwarming. The reaction of their governor doesn't surprise me either. She is trying to walk the political tightrope. When the governors don't play ball the federal grants to their states mysteriously dry up. When the fence legislation passed in the US Congress it wasn't four days later another trailer was attached to another bill not even related to the border security that passed and changed the entire meaning of the previous bill. It is funny. The big media coverage of the first bill passing and not a word mentioned about the next one passing that negated all of what the first bill stood for. I do know about the Mexican government supplying printed matter and even GPS equipment to their border runners. I have a US Border patrol buddy who works out of Columbus NM and he tells me there are random sniper shots taken at US vehicles from the other side of the border. Not intending to wound or kill but rather to intimidate. Cameras now running during the daylight hours will from time to time catch a puff of smoke about 600 yards into Mexico. The word is these folks are placed there with old 1903-A3 Sprinfield rifles with orders to fire one of two harrassing shots a day. To get back to the intent of any illegal entry controls how can many of us be deceived by the fact that the whole top end of the US administration is either a major investor in fossil energy or big industry and both require huge amounts of labor. Labor without a fair wage and no benefits is advantageous to all of them. They aren't going to seriously impede anything that smells like increased profits are they? This whole globalization question looks good when they flower it all up. But the devil is in the details and it is a very bad idea. What happened to "government of the people, by the people and for the people?" All they seem to accomplish is to give the business to the people without ever feeling badly about how it affects others. There are so many laws on the books in the US that are ignored daily and we settle for more each legislative session. No wonder we are despised in other countries anymore.

 

[temperance]

The vast Athabasca Tar Sands give Canada the world's second largest reserves of oil behind Saudi Arabia.[

 

[EagleSmack]

Silky I appreciate your thoughts on sending gift bags to NG troops but there is a security reason for that. There could be a million heart felt packages of cookies, snacks, etc. from great people like you opened and enjoyed by our troops.

However it is the one package that explodes in one of our soldier's face that they are worried about.

But I am with you on your post.

Eighteen months... I am surprised they have to work that long.

 

[EagleSmack]

It's a null issue. Canadians have zero interest in merging with the US. I can see the advantage for Mexico but what does Canada get out of it? NAFTA gives us access to the US market and we hold all the natural resources. Maybe just maybe an North American Union similiar to the EU but I doubt it very much. It would end the US's illegal alien problem because then they would not be illegal aliens. Yanks are way to aggressive, xenophobic and gun happy to be acceptable to Canadians for any meaningful merger. Heck next to hockey Yank bashing is our favourite sport. Our comedians need and independent US to earn money. The Royal Canadian AIr Farce and Rick Mercer would be out of work in an instant.

You don't get it. It is a Bush Plot! Canada will not have a choice. After Bush is crowned Emperor of North America he will own Canada.

Forget hockey, forget... umm... forget...umm

 

[hermanntrude]

bush is not immortal. i suspect his days of pissing about with the world are numbered. anyway once his dad dies he won't have any brains left

 

[EagleSmack]

I was being sarcastic.

 

[hermanntrude]

i know. i was talking to the same people u were

 

[silky]

Bush plot to merge Canada, the U.S. and Mexico Reply to Thread

Another good article from yesterday: North American Union - It's Coming ... By William H. Calhoun
Jan 10, 2007http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_21258241.shtml

One of the last paragraph is of particular interest as a statement that I run across frequently from a head of La Raza (ACLU type created to defend the invasion legally), this group continually accuses the anti-illegal organizations of being racist and xenophobic.

Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, founder of La Raza, has proudly said: "We have an aging white America... . They are dying... . They are ******** in their pants with fear! I love it!" He then demands: "We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst"

After you read it, who do you think is the racist? An eloquent point, for the anti-illegal alien grassroots organizations, that illustrates it is all about issues and laws is a nation-wide rally taking place on Sat. 1/13 for the Border Patrol agents Ramos & Campean If you are not familiar with the case:

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53702

http://www.firecoalition.com/day.asp?date=1/13/2007

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-10-2007/0004503338&EDATE

Americans will begin rallies across the US to demand that our BP agents be pardoned. It is also important to know that Ramos & Campean are hispanic, therefore it not about race as the La Raza, LULAC, and MEChA, MALDEF, or any of the other invasion groups would have you think, however, it is their own projection of racisim that reveals their true identity and motive.

I will be at the rally in Phoenix, if this travesty of justice is not enough to get this wireless laptop off my legs then nothing is.

 

[silky]

For the Canadians ... the Reconquistas also have their eyes on Canada:

Meeting in Riverside - Feb. 11, 2006
Fabian Nunez (tape): I am honored to fight against the Sensenbrenner approach to immigration
Casey Wian: Organizer Armando Navarro began by quoting Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, prediction a socialist revolution stretching from the tip of South America to northern Canada.
Armando Navarro: Tierra del Fuego hasta Canada!
Reconquista: his is not their land. This is not their continent. This is our continent.

If this sparks your interest then please go to the link below to see the video where the Reconquista's also want Canada. LOL It's really to much, but this is the type of lunacy Americans are having to deal with.
http://www.americanpatrol.com/06-FEATURES/060214-RIVERSIDE-SEDITIONISTS/060214_Feature.html

 

[EagleSmack]

i know. i was talking to the same people u were

Mea Culpa AGAIN

Dang Hermann... I've apologized to you more than i have to anyone on this board.

 

[EagleSmack]

For the Canadians ... the Reconquistas also have their eyes on Canada:

Meeting in Riverside - Feb. 11, 2006
Fabian Nunez (tape): I am honored to fight against the Sensenbrenner approach to immigration
Casey Wian: Organizer Armando Navarro began by quoting Venezuela's Hugo Chavez, prediction a socialist revolution stretching from the tip of South America to northern Canada.
Armando Navarro: Tierra del Fuego hasta Canada!
Reconquista: his is not their land. This is not their continent. This is our continent.

If this sparks your interest then please go to the link below to see the video where the Reconquista's also want Canada. LOL It's really to much, but this is the type of lunacy Americans are having to deal with.
http://www.americanpatrol.com/06-FEATURES/060214-RIVERSIDE-SEDITIONISTS/060214_Feature.html

AWESOME!

Well, well, well... lets see how many Canadians who CHEER Chavez and his followers that live beneath have to say about this.

They want us ALL out... That means you to CANADA. It isn't just the South West part of the US... they want Canadaians to pack up and go back to Europe. Watch the video folks! it is all there from there own mouths. Quebecians (or whatever) think they have a language problem now. Try telling a few Latin Americans to speak French LOL.

 

[hermanntrude]

Mea Culpa AGAIN

Dang Hermann... I've apologized to you more than i have to anyone on this board.

that's the way it should be. everyone should. After all, i'm right so much more often than anyone else

 

[silky]

But the devil is in the details and it is a very bad idea. What happened to "government of the people, by the people and for the people?". No wonder we are despised in other countries anymore.

Norm: I have suggested to the Iraq committe drafting their new constitution could save themselves a great deal of time if they would just use the US's constitution. It was written by some very intelligent minds for the good of the America citizens, and since we're not using it any longer... it's probably for sale. :-?

RE: "No wonder we are despised in other countries anymore." I hope other countries citizen's can distinguish the differece between the people and the political leaders. I find it is very easy to get along with people from other nations, we're more alike than different, however, it is the governments and policies that distance the real people. Granted I do have a difficult time getting along with foriegn nationals telling me to get off their land when in reality they are illegal aliens on the USA soil. :lurk:

bush is not immortal. i suspect his days of pissing about with the world are numbered. anyway once his dad dies he won't have any brains left

Actually hermann it will be another Council of Foriegn Relations CFR, brainwashed cult member that will be at the helm of the US. CFR is bipartisim and an equal opportunity organization that cultivates their globalist dogma to political leader from all around. This organization's creator is David Rockefeller who has nurtured the vision of a one world government that the current drafter Robert Pastor is drawing a blueprint called SPP aka NAU.

And I will take this opportunity to apologize for anything that you will call me on later. LOL (just kidding) :angel8:

AWESOME!

Well, well, well... lets see how many Canadians who CHEER Chavez and his followers that live beneath have to say about this.

They want us ALL out... That means you to CANADA. It isn't just the South West part of the US... they want Canadaians to pack up and go back to Europe. Watch the video folks! it is all there from there own mouths. Quebecians (or whatever) think they have a language problem now. Try telling a few Latin Americans to speak French LOL.

Eagle: I know it's just too asinine, silly, and disgusting to believe, but that's how they think and the absurdity is how Bush is pandering to them. Actually I think Quebec is our only hope to stop the NAU ... Come on Quebec let's see what you got? :quebec:

 

[MagnoliaApples]

Just wanted to say that this is most certainly NOT a Bush plot.

I used to work at Ekos Research. It's a company that surveys canadians and sometimes americans about anything and everything that concerns the country. The results go straight to the Canadian Federal government which is then viewed as public opinion.

I remember doing this particular survey about Intergration 4 or 5 years ago.
What i noticed is that there are 2 types of Canadians. 1- Canadians that are strongly protective of 'Their' country and want to see Canada as an independant or 2- Canadians that love Canada but feel that it can't function without the help American enterprise and business - meaning American money. And that's pretty much it.

This being some kind of new Bush scheme - it isn't. They were talking about this before Harper.

What worried me about the results was that some people didn't really get it and were regarding the integration - taking out the borders - like it was a Berlin wall type of thing, which it isn't.
I just hope that this isn't going to be marketed as some type of utopian idealism that's going to convince people to jump on the band wagon.

Just look at this thread. Look at how we're already sh*ting on eachother over it. I can only imagine what would come of it if it actually happened!

 

[silky]

Just wanted to say that this is most certainly NOT a Bush plot.

I used to work at Ekos Research. It's a company that surveys canadians and sometimes americans about anything and everything that concerns the country. The results go straight to the Canadian Federal government which is then viewed as public opinion.

I remember doing this particular survey about Intergration 4 or 5 years ago.
What i noticed is that there are 2 types of Canadians. 1- Canadians that are strongly protective of 'Their' country and want to see Canada as an independant or 2- Canadians that love Canada but feel that it can't function without the help American enterprise and business - meaning American money. And that's pretty much it.

This being some kind of new Bush scheme - it isn't. They were talking about this before Harper.

What worried me about the results was that some people didn't really get it and were regarding the integration - taking out the borders - like it was a Berlin wall type of thing, which it isn't.
I just hope that this isn't going to be marketed as some type of utopian idealism that's going to convince people to jump on the band wagon.

Just look at this thread. Look at how we're already sh*ting on eachother over it. I can only imagine what would come of it if it actually happened!

MagnoliaApples (interesting name I like it):

I agree with you it isn't a Bush plot, that would be giving him way too much credit, however, it is a David Rockefeller, CFR, World Bankers, and Bilderberger plot or cabal (if you will). It is all about globalism and a one world government. Each President or Minister along the way is merely a political soldier. The point man for the last half century has been Rockefeller, managing thru the conduit of the shadow government of the CFR.

Regarding you statement: "Just look at this thread. Look at how we're already sh*ting on eachother over it." Debate and discussion are very healthy, IMHO, as long as remarks do not become uninformed personal attacks.
In reflection, I do not feel I have been shat upon (so to speak), just a healthy confrontation on issues. In closing, I really agree with you about "What worried me about the results was that some people didn't really get it and were regarding the integration - taking out the borders - like it was a Berlin wall type of thing, which it isn't."
Great minds think alike :wave:

 

[L Gilbert]

Just wanted to say that this is most certainly NOT a Bush plot.

I used to work at Ekos Research. It's a company that surveys canadians and sometimes americans about anything and everything that concerns the country. The results go straight to the Canadian Federal government which is then viewed as public opinion.

I remember doing this particular survey about Intergration 4 or 5 years ago.
What i noticed is that there are 2 types of Canadians. 1- Canadians that are strongly protective of 'Their' country and want to see Canada as an independant or 2- Canadians that love Canada but feel that it can't function without the help American enterprise and business - meaning American money. And that's pretty much it.

This being some kind of new Bush scheme - it isn't. They were talking about this before Harper.

What worried me about the results was that some people didn't really get it and were regarding the integration - taking out the borders - like it was a Berlin wall type of thing, which it isn't.
I just hope that this isn't going to be marketed as some type of utopian idealism that's going to convince people to jump on the band wagon.

Just look at this thread. Look at how we're already sh*ting on eachother over it. I can only imagine what would come of it if it actually happened!

I love polls. I lie through my face.
Anyway, I agree; if there is any kinda plot, it's Rockefeller and Co. plotting, not Junior.

 

[silky]

Link to the Reconquista speeches

AWESOME!

They want us ALL out... That means you to CANADA. It isn't just the South West part of the US...

Eagle: If you want to hear some more of those actual speeches in MP3 mode (about 3 min. each), just hit this link:
http://www.ccir.net/AUDIO/TakeoverOfAmericaCD/Menu.html

:angryfire: