Donald Trump: I Could Have Prevented 9/11

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It was never 'down' to anybody except Trump from the minute he announced his intention to run. Aren't surprises wonderful?
 

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Jinentonix; said:
Wait a second, wait...a ...second! Are you all telling me that the Republican nomination is down to Jeb and Trump?


Not really - it's just that who ever makes the most controversial statements gets the most publicity.
 

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Mile long blocks sounds like a bit of a stretch.
Though I've never been to nyc other than to the port authority bus depot to switch buses to visit my dad in Milford Pennsylvania, Gateway to the Poconos.
 

Ron in Regina

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I not only remember where I was, I remember much of the conversation.
I had this conversation with my girlfriend recently, and we both remember vividly where we were and what we were doing that morning, who we were with and what we drove at that time. It was a day where you knew that the world was changing in front of you.
1789076860817.jpegAnyway, back on that day 25yrs ago, when the sky’s over America closed, and the planes in the air over America couldn’t land in…America…Canada accepted 224 separate flights (33,000 passengers) at 17 different airports and not just Gander Newfoundland.
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On the afternoon of September 11, 2001, Trump spoke during a live phone interview with a local television station, and a reporter asked him if his property at 40 Wall Street had suffered any damage. Trump answered by discussing the height of his building. As documented by The New York Times, Trump said: "40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan... and now it’s the tallest."

Well, he lied about that too. Another nearby skyscraper, 70 Pine Street, was actually taller than 40 Wall Street, but that’s neither here nor there at this point I guess. Twenty-Five years later, an inappropriate moment of self-promotion during a major national tragedy or the memorializing of that event a quarter of a century later, he’s still doing the same thing.

Here we are a quarter of a century later with the current US president who was at home four miles away from Ground Zero in Manhattan claiming stolen valour (?Or something like it?) with 9/11, while Canada being America’s ally is being punished for not capitulating to Trumps coercive bullshit. Absolutely batty.

Anyway, I apologize for the sidetracked here and this really shouldn’t be about Trump even though the thread is about Trump and 9/11.
 

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I had this conversation with my girlfriend recently, and we both remember vividly where we were and what we were doing that morning, who we were with and what we drove at that time. It was a day where you knew that the world was changing in front of you.
View attachment 35638Anyway, back on that day 25yrs ago, when the sky’s over America closed, and the planes in the air over America couldn’t land in…America…Canada accepted 224 separate flights (33,000 passengers) at 17 different airports and not just Gander Newfoundland.
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On the afternoon of September 11, 2001, Trump spoke during a live phone interview with a local television station, and a reporter asked him if his property at 40 Wall Street had suffered any damage. Trump answered by discussing the height of his building. As documented by The New York Times, Trump said: "40 Wall Street actually was the second-tallest building in downtown Manhattan... and now it’s the tallest."

Well, he lied about that too. Another nearby skyscraper, 70 Pine Street, was actually taller than 40 Wall Street, but that’s neither here nor there at this point I guess. Twenty-Five years later, an inappropriate moment of self-promotion during a major national tragedy or the memorializing of that event a quarter of a century later, he’s still doing the same thing.

Here we are a quarter of a century later with the current US president who was at home four miles away from Ground Zero in Manhattan claiming stolen valour (?Or something like it?) with 9/11, while Canada being America’s ally is being punished for not capitulating to Trumps coercive bullshit. Absolutely batty.

Anyway, I apologize for the sidetracked here and this really shouldn’t be about Trump even though the thread is about Trump and 9/11.
You can read anything on the internet , some of it is true .
 

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Al-Qaida is stronger than ever 25 years after 9/11, experts warn
Security experts say the Islamist terror cult is far from a "defunct organization"

Author of the article:Bryan Passifiume
Published Sep 10, 2026 • Last updated 9 hours ago • 2 minute read
In this file photo taken on September 10, 2001, pedestrians walk across the Brooklyn Bridge away from the burning World Trade Center towers before their collapse.
In this file photo taken on September 10, 2001, pedestrians walk across the Brooklyn Bridge away from the burning World Trade Center towers before their collapse. Photo by HENNY RAY ABRAMS /AFP


OTTAWA — With Friday marking the 25th anniversary of the Sept. 11 terror attacks, the group responsible for carrying them out is not only still thriving, it’s stronger than ever.


That’s the conclusion of a number of terrorism and global security experts, who say that al-Qaida — the terror group established in the late 1980s by now-dead Saudi terror mastermind Osama bin Laden — has quietly rebuilt itself into a far more dangerous and decentralized global threat.

“It has decentralized and that makes it much harder to monitor,” Chris Phillips, the former head of the National Counter-Terrorism Security Office, told the U.K. Sun newspaper.

“You are dealing with people in different countries and communications between them may be limited.”



That’s an assessment shared by terror expert and George Washington University Fellow Dr. Sara Harmouch, who said al-Qaida‘s capabilities today are far beyond what they were before the notorious 2001 New York City terror attacks.

“It is mind-blowing that people look at al-Qaida as a dead or defunct organization,” she told the newspaper.

“It now has thousands of fighters across a global network, vastly greater financial resources, new training camps and advanced technology. The warning is that things are aligning. They have the resources, they have the technology, the intent is still there and their adaptability is still there.”

A look at the 9/11 terror attacks.
A look at the 9/11 terror attacks. Photo by Toronto Sun graphic
New leader a concern
Osama bin Laden was one of 50 children of Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden, the billionaire founder of the Saudi BinLadin Group — an enormous construction firm with close ties to Saudi Arabia’s royal family.

Heeding the call to join the mujahideen fighting against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, bin Laden founded al-Qaida in 1988 in Peshawar, Pakistan.


Bin Laden led the group until his death in May 2011, when U.S. Navy SEALs conducted a nighttime raid on his compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan.

The group’s current leader, former Egyptian special forces officer Saif al-Adel, has largely run the group from the shadows.

9/11's impact on Canada.
9/11’s impact on Canada. Photo by Toronto Sun graphic
Group operating in the shadows
That’s prompted the group to switch from overt terror attacks to calculated, long-term strategies, employing a network of thousands of fighters in cells across the world, backed by millions of dollars in revenue and modern warfare capabilities.

Far removed from al-Qaida‘s past spectacles of terror — ranging from bombings of hotels, military facilities and U.S. embassies to attacks targeting the World Trade Center in 1993 and 2001 — organizers are promoting supporters in Western nations to conduct low-tech “lone wolf” attacks.

Security experts are growing increasingly concerned over the group’s adoption of weaponized drones, AI-driven recruitment, threats of cyberattacks and reports of research into chemical and biological weapons.

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A thousand strands combined for horror
To the Al Qaeda terrorists and their evil web of supporters, the attacks on 9/11 were the apogee of their war on the West

Author of the article:Brad Hunter
Published Sep 10, 2026 • Last updated 10 hours ago • 4 minute read
(FILES) This file photo shows Edward Fine covering his mouth as he walks through the debris folllowing the collapse of one of the twin towers of the World Trade Center in lower Manhattan, New York. - On the morning of September 11, 2001, New Yorkers woke to crisp blue skies following a storm that had soaked America's northeastern seaboard the day before. The cloudless, beautiful sky was little portent of the dark, history-changing day that was to come but would remain etched on the memory of those involved. (Photo by STAN HONDA / AFP) (Photo by STAN HONDA/AFP via Getty Images)
(FILES) This file photo shows Edward Fine covering his mouth as he walks through the debris following the collapse of one of the twin towers of the World Trade Center in lower Manhattan, New York, on Sept. 11, 2001, Photo by Stan Honda /AFP via Getty Images
In 1996, second banana Khalid Sheikh Mohammed approached terror master Osama bin Laden with an audacious plan to rain death and destruction on the United States.


From their redoubts in Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, the leading lights of emerging terror organization – Al Qaeda – began plotting their sinister operation.


Five years later it came to fruition.

By the end of the day on Sept. 11, 2001, nearly 3,000 would be dead. Another 10,000 would die later from 9/11-related health issues and the world as we knew it was obliterated.

About that day …

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
This photo obtained on March 1, 2003 shows alleged plotter of the September 11, 2001 attack Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Photo by - /AFP/Getty Images
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The fanatic pan-Islamist terror group was established in 1988 by wealthy Saudi layabout bin Laden.

Formed to support Mujahadin guerillas in their fight against the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, the death cult’s aims became much broader. The goal was to unite the Muslim world in an Islamic caliphate, erase Western influence in the Middle East, and obliterate Israel and governments that didn’t measure up to their standards of piety.

It was all talk until the 1998 bombings of U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. In 2000, the U.S. Navy warship USS Cole was suicide bombed in Aden, Yemen.

Two of the Al Qaeda fanatics convicted of the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. GETTY IMAGES
Two of the Al Qaeda fanatics convicted of the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000. GETTY IMAGES
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Planning began for the 9/11 attacks in earnest in 1999. Chosen to lead the slaughter was an under-achieving Saudi fanatic named Mohamed Atta with a supporting cast from Al Qaeda’s Hamburg, Germany cell.

The initial 20 hijackers met in Afghanistan to plot the bloodshed.



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“In two days you’re going to hear big news and you’re not going to hear from me for a while,” bin Laden said at the time in a tapped phone call to his mom.

FACE OF HATRED: Terrorist leader Mohamad Atta.
FACE OF HATRED: Terrorist leader Mohamad Atta.
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U.S. law enforcement officials may have thwarted the attacks — if they had been paying attention.

Atta’s team began training at U.S. flight training schools where they raised red flags by showing no interest in learning how to land. The team drank, watched strippers and criss-crossed the country doing recon at airports.

A trail of suspicions followed them and one of the most profound questions remains: How the hell did they get into the country?

A COLLECTION OF LOSERS WHO GOT LUCKY
A COLLECTION OF LOSERS WHO GOT LUCKY
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“The 19 hijackers entered through U.S. airports showing immigration personnel passports — often doctored or newly acquired to hide prior travel — and visas acquired often with incomplete or inaccurate information … In all, they had 25 contacts with consular officers and 43 contacts with immigration and customs authorities … They successfully entered the United States 33 times over 21 months.” — 9/11 REPORT


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The suicide hijackers would take to the air in four teams, commandeering planes using box cutters. It was to be strictly low-tech. Planes departing Boston, Washington, and Newark would be hit. All four planes were flying cross-country with a full payload of highly combustible jet fuel.

A look at the 9/11 terror attacks.
A look at the 9/11 terror attacks. Photo by Toronto Sun graphic
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There were early signs of the horror to come. From the AA Flight 11 cockpit, Atta accidentally broadcast: “We have some planes. Just stay quiet, and you will be okay. We are returning to the airport.”

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And then, at 8:45 a.m., Flight 11 slammed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center in New York City. The crash killed all 92 people on board, including the five hijackers.

Estimates are that the jet-turned-missile killed an additional 1,000 inside the building and on the ground.

Seventeen minutes later, United Airlines Flight 175 hit the South Tower of the WTC triggering chaos and bedlam in the streets of lower Manhattan.

The 9/11 terrorists, whose evil machinations left thousands dead, targeted a fifth jet but were foiled, a new report reveals.
NOT TERRORISM: At least according to the CBC. Photo by Spencer Platt /Getty Images
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“A second plane has hit the second tower. America is under attack.” — former White House chief of staff Andrew Card to President George W. Bush in a Florida classroom.


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At 9:37 a.m., hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon in Langley, Virginia. Then, at 10:03 a.m., Flight 93 crashed into an empty field near Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

But things were different this time: The passengers fought back against the craven hijackers derailing plans to to hit the U.S. Capitol Building in Washington. Their heroic actions likely saved hundreds of lives.

9/11's impact on Canada.
9/11’s impact on Canada. Photo by Toronto Sun graphic
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“Are you ready? Okay, let’s roll.” — Flight 93 passenger Todd Beamer.

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By this time, the skies over North America had been shut down with cops and military on high alert for follow up attacks.

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In New York City, firefighters, cops and EMTs rushed into the burning buildings while citizens tried to escape certain death. In the upper floors, above where the jets hit, terror, desperation.

Rather than burn to death, some chose to jump from the stricken buildings. The photos and sounds of these souls’ last minutes of life remain haunting.

At 9:59 a.m., the South Tower came down followed by the North Tower 29 minutes later.


And now, America was counting its dead and missing. Initial estimates were that between 5,000 and 12,000 may have been killed in the attacks.

New York firefighters march as they mark the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center, in New York, on Sept. 11, 2021.
New York firefighters march as they mark the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center, in New York, on Sept. 11, 2021. Photo by ANGELA WEISS /AFP via Getty Images
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“When we get the final number, it will be more than we can bear.” — America’s mayor Rudolph Giuliani.

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To the Al Qaeda terrorists and their evil web of supporters, the attacks on 9/11 were the apogee of their war on the West.

But the psycopaths behind the plot had their timing wrong: 20-25 minutes later and there would have been 50,000 in the WTC and a significantly higher death count.



AFTERMATH

Osama bin Laden was taken off the board by U.S. special forces at his Pakistan hideaway in 2011. Most of his flunkies have also been iced or caged forever.

America stands. Israel stands. The Islamic State’s loopy caliphate gambit was pulverized.

Retired Paramedic Chief Charlie Wells kisses the name of a relative killed in the attack on the World Trade Center at the National 9/11 Memorial and Museum during the ceremony commemorating the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks in New York, on September 11, 2021. (Photo by David Handschuh / POOL / AFP) (Photo by DAVID HANDSCHUH/POOL/AFP via Getty Images)
Retired Paramedic Chief Charlie Wells kisses the name of a relative killed in the attack on the World Trade Center at the National 9/11 Memorial and Museum during the ceremony commemorating the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks in New York, on Sept. 11, 2021. Photo by DAVID HANDSCHUH /POOL/AFP via Getty Images
LAST WORD

“Preserving that history also means preserving its moral clarity. The men who attacked this city were terrorists. The men and women who ran into the towers to save innocent lives were heroes. Twenty-five years cannot be allowed to blur that distinction and shame on those who do.” — NYPD Commisioner Jessica Tisch to 9/11 first responders’ families.

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Ron in Regina

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You can read anything on the internet , some of it is true .
So…you can find something on the Internet that’s verifiable…to conflict with the above? Verifiable by even one other person that’s not named Donald Trump?

Anyway, recall America’s standing just before 9/11. It was a time of strength and optimism. The U.S. had won the Cold War and enjoyed international dominance. Its victory over Iraq in the first Gulf War still resonated: a U.S. military so powerful it could crush threats far away, in short order, and with few American casualties.

That optimistic mindset shaped pre-9/11 strategy. Many U.S. leaders believed bringing nations into the global economy would make them more like the West and less likely to go to war. China and Russia were central to that plan.

The more we bring China into the world, the more the world will bring change and freedom to China,” said President Bill Clinton. Washington championed the integration of China and welcomed Russia into the G-7 group of nations, making it the G-8.

Shortly after terrorists attacked the World Trade Center and Pentagon, and the hijacked United Flight 93 crashed near Shanksville, Pa., the U.S. launched its War on Terror. It invaded Afghanistan to rout al Qaeda, which had executed the attacks. In a historic intelligence failure, the U.S. also invaded Iraq in part to seize weapons of mass destruction that didn’t exist.

Two long wars ensued, killing more than 7,000 U.S. servicemembers and hundreds of thousands of Afghan and Iraqi military personnel, police, and civilians, according to a Brown University study. The conflicts—a complex mix of war and nation building—cost the U.S. several trillion dollars and roiled South Asia and the Mideast.

China’s entry to the WTO Dec. 11, 2001, championed by Washington and American business among others, further opened the country’s economy to global trade and gave China greater access to foreign markets. The impact was swift. Chinese exports swamped global markets. Foreign companies piled into China and shifted more manufacturing to this lower-cost locale. Factories in the U.S. and other nations closed and jobs were lost.

America’s failure to address the dislocation resulting from China’s rise fed another post-9/11 fracture in the world order: anger in America toward globalization. The wars, immigration, and an unrelated financial crisis that forced millions of Americans out of their homes further darkened the political mood. By 2025, only 17% of Americans trusted the government to do the right thing, according to Pew Research.

This discontent contributed to an undercurrent of isolationism and nativism, helping fuel the rise of Donald Trump’s America First movement. Many supporters question or reject much of the existing multilateral, rules-based global order—NATO, European alliances, the WTO—believing it doesn’t work for them.
 

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Did you know.....

Trump was one of the first people (that day or day after) to say the three collapses were demolition style implosions and not from gravity and fire alone.

Make of that what you will.


Psssssst building seven.