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B.C. Premier Eby said he opposes any pipelines from Alberta…but what about pipelines that don’t originate from Alberta?🤔
http://iaac-aeic.gc.ca/050/evaluations/proj/82797 Ottawa has declared we are on our own in convincing Premier Eby, though Carney did say after the budget that “it’s going to happen.” (?)
Well, Eby doesn’t have to worry about any pipelines from Alberta, just the one that originates in BC to the BC coast…
 
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Prime Minister Mark Carney rolled out a second wave of “nation-building projects” on Thursday and an oil pipeline from Alberta was not on the list. Patience is wearing thin in western Canada, even as Alberta Premier Danielle Smith says her government is “still working” with the Carney government to advance a bitumen pipeline to tidewater.
B.C. Premier Eby said he opposes any pipelines from Alberta…but what about pipelines that don’t originate from Alberta?🤔
What do you know about Carney, Danielle Smith, Scott Moe and hydrogen?
That it’s not gonna be in a pipeline to the Pacific?

Whitecap Resources CEO Grant Fagerheim, who warns we can expect “fury from Alberta and Saskatchewan” if a pipeline isn’t prioritized.

“What I want to hear from (Carney) is that we’re prepared to advance our products to international markets without a discount price,” Grant declared in a conversation last month, and that requires pipelines between provinces.

“Alberta and Saskatchewan are the only two provinces in Canada that are landlocked,” he explained, “that’s why we need (Ottawa’s) assistance to break down the regulatory barriers so we can get our products to market.”
Canada was founded as an economic union between provinces. Tariffs and other economic barriers were a significant problem, which is precisely why the federal government was given jurisdiction over interprovincial infrastructure like railways and pipelines. It is not an exaggeration to say resolving disputes like this over a potential West Coast pipeline is exactly Carney’s job.
For those not versed in pipeline economics, a quick reminder: The Americans sell our oil and gas as an export commodity to other countries, and also enjoy a domestic supply of cheaper gasoline for their cars, thanks to constraints on Canadian oil and gas producers’ access to markets…which for landlocked Alberta & Saskatchewan means…
"At the end of the day, it still looks like it's going to be easier to negotiate a new pipeline with the Americans than with British Columbia." Carney has avoided siding with either province (or Canada as a whole) but has signalled his openness to a pipeline if Alberta can commit to also developing its carbon capture and storage programme. He said discussions "are going well".

In a statement to the BBC, Smith's office said it is "working to address" Premier Eby's concerns. But it said it expects Carney's government to support their project.
 

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Players in the federal and Alberta governments are expressing optimism that a deal is within reach and could be announced in time for next weekend’s United Conservative Party of Alberta convention?
On the table to support it would be a “limited” exemption to the current ban on oil tankers on the B.C. coast (which doesnt exist for the Canadian East Coast), a plan to move ahead with changes to industrial carbon pricing in support of scaling up carbon capture technology, and a lowering or removal of the industrial emissions cap.

Two federal insiders said the broad outlines of the agreement, which would take the form of a memorandum of understanding, involve an oil pipeline running from Alberta to the northwest coast of British Columbia.
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Ron in Regina

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Eby says what?
The B.C. government proposed and chaired the national initiative for the Canadian Mutual Recognition Agreement, and Kahlon said it's an important step for cross-Canada trade.

"And this is the largest red tape reduction in Canada's history, and it's just the beginning," he told reporters.

The agreement will take effect next month and applies to most products, although it excludes food, beverages, tobacco, plants and animals.

Kahlon said B.C. is also advocating for an expansion under the agreement to include food and services.
Well, this has got me curious. Will this extend to the two landlocked provinces having unfettered access to trade internationally, or…the same old, etc…?
 

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In his speech from Site C Carney was still babbling about the trans-boreal rail, road and energy corridor. To Churchill or ???
Build a rail line through the bog and built ice breakers to keep the port open . Sounds like a sure money maker .
 

Ron in Regina

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Is it bog across northern Alberta and Saskatchewan the same way it is in Manitoba?
Is there a railway there ?
Is there a railway there ?
In Manytobahs? Yes.
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Sorta loops through Saskatchewan but it’s a thing that exists.
Federal insiders recently told The Globe that Ottawa and Alberta appeared close to striking a memorandum of understanding long sought by the premier, which would involve an oil pipeline running from Alberta to the northwest coast of British Columbia.

B.C. Premier David Eby, in a statement Thursday, said he was caught off guard by The Globe’s report that Alberta and Ottawa are negotiating an energy accord that could affect British Columbia.
 
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In a statement Thursday, the BC premier said it is his understanding that First Nations in the region have also not been consulted by the federal government and that he would prefer to focus on projects like the Ksi Lisims LNG terminal (who’s pipeline starts & ends in BC) and the North Coast hydro transmission line that have already been added to Prime Minister Mark Carney’s major projects list.
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B.C. Premier Eby said he opposes any pipelines from Alberta…but what about pipelines that don’t originate from Alberta?🤔
On Wednesday, the Globe and Mail said Ottawa was close to a deal with Alberta on a new energy accord, which would include “language” in support of a new pipeline from the oilsands near Fort McMurray to B.C.’s north coast along a similar route to the failed Northern Gateway project.
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B.C. Conservative Leader John Rustad said he has had conversations with Smith and Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe on the potential for a new pipeline and knows the provincial government has been contacted by Alberta on the matter.

He called the premier’s comments that Ottawa forcing through a pipeline could jeopardize First Nations support for major projects such as LNG and mining “fearmongering” and that the province can’t do anything to block it.

“They can drive up costs. They can create delays,” said Rustad. “They can do all kinds of really nasty things, which is what this government seems to want to always do when it comes to prosperity. But they cannot block it.”
 

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In a statement Thursday, the BC premier said it is his understanding that First Nations in the region have also not been consulted by the federal government and that he would prefer to focus on projects like the Ksi Lisims LNG terminal (who’s pipeline starts & ends in BC) and the North Coast hydro transmission line that have already been added to Prime Minister Mark Carney’s major projects list.
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On Wednesday, the Globe and Mail said Ottawa was close to a deal with Alberta on a new energy accord, which would include “language” in support of a new pipeline from the oilsands near Fort McMurray to B.C.’s north coast along a similar route to the failed Northern Gateway project.
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B.C. Conservative Leader John Rustad said he has had conversations with Smith and Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe on the potential for a new pipeline and knows the provincial government has been contacted by Alberta on the matter.

He called the premier’s comments that Ottawa forcing through a pipeline could jeopardize First Nations support for major projects such as LNG and mining “fearmongering” and that the province can’t do anything to block it.

“They can drive up costs. They can create delays,” said Rustad. “They can do all kinds of really nasty things, which is what this government seems to want to always do when it comes to prosperity. But they cannot block it.”
If memory serves me well its Alberta First Nations who are funding the line.
 

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Alberta Premier Danielle Smith is pushing back against British Columbia’s opposition to the prospect of an oil pipeline to the coast, saying that being part of “Team Canada” means co-operating on getting her province’s oil to market.

After Saskatchewan Premier Scott Moe said he was also involved in the Alberta-Ottawa discussions, Mr. Eby said Thursday that Mr. Moe and Ms. Smith were jeopardizing major economic development by engaging in what he called “secret” talks on oil pipelines through his province.

A concrete plan for such a pipeline does not yet exist; there is no route and no proponent. Yet the idea has drawn unequivocal opposition from B.C. Premier David Eby.
“This is what Team Canada looks like: That when you’ve got provinces that don’t have access to a shoreline, we co-operate to make sure that we can get our product to market,” she (Alberta Premier Danielle Smith) said.

“A lot of people wrap themselves in the flag, talking about how much they support Canada and want to work together. And then, when it comes right down to it, not everybody lives up to that commitment.”

“We all saw that there was also a lot of sabre-rattling in previous iterations of the British Columbia government. And in the end, the decision is the federal government’s to make based on their assessment of what’s in the national interest,” she said.
 

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There is an agreement, a memorandum of understanding between Alberta and Ottawa laying out a path for a bitumen pipeline to the northwest B.C. coast?

Prime Minister Mark Carney is on board. He is expected to travel to Calgary for the announcement this coming week? Of course, the devil will be in the details. B.C. Premier David Eby is mad as hell as B.C. NDP leaders have been mad as hell in the past.
So how real is this?
 

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There is an agreement, a memorandum of understanding between Alberta and Ottawa laying out a path for a bitumen pipeline to the northwest B.C. coast?

Prime Minister Mark Carney is on board. He is expected to travel to Calgary for the announcement this coming week? Of course, the devil will be in the details. B.C. Premier David Eby is mad as hell as B.C. NDP leaders have been mad as hell in the past.
So how real is this?
Alberta's First Nations are exploring potential funding and ownership stakes in a proposed oil pipeline to British Columbia's northwest coast, though support is divided. While some First Nations are engaging with the Alberta government on this project, viewing it as an opportunity for economic gain, others are skeptical or opposed due to environmental concerns, and some coastal First Nations have declared firm opposition. The Alberta government is leading the project proposal as the proponent and is engaging with Indigenous communities for input and partnership from the outset.

For a potential pipeline to B.C.'s northwest coast
Alberta's role: The Alberta government is leading the application as the proponent for a new oil pipeline to the northwest B.C. coast.

Government approach: The government is taking a collaborative approach, engaging with Indigenous communities from the start to seek input and offer potential co-ownership and financial stakes.

Potential for funding and ownership: First Nations could potentially gain a financial stake and ownership in the project as a form of "economic reconciliation," a process also seen in a past natural gas pipeline deal with Enbridge.

Divided support:
Some Indigenous leaders are cautiously optimistic, seeing the project as a "once-in-a-generation opportunity" and noting that opposition is not unanimous, as detailed by CTV News.

Other First Nations, particularly those on the B.C. coast, are expressing strong opposition to any new pipeline and oil tanker activity in their waters due to environmental risks, as reported by APTN News and The Globe and Mail.

Key considerations
B.C. government opposition: The B.C. government opposes the project, citing environmental concerns and the existing oil tanker moratorium, and has stated the proposal is unrealistic without a proponent, reports The Tyee and CBC.

Future steps: Alberta plans to submit a formal application to the Federal Major Projects Office in the spring, contingent on continued engagement and support from First Nations.

Federal involvement: The federal government's approval will depend on, among other things, agreement from the province and First Nations, which currently appears unlikely, according to Global News and The Tyee.
 

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There is an agreement, a memorandum of understanding between Alberta and Ottawa laying out a path for a bitumen pipeline to the northwest B.C. coast?

Prime Minister Mark Carney is on board. He is expected to travel to Calgary for the announcement this coming week? Of course, the devil will be in the details. B.C. Premier David Eby is mad as hell as B.C. NDP leaders have been mad as hell in the past.
So how real is this?
Of course Carney is playing both sides . Showing he is acting decisively on pipelines all the while letting the B.C. Government squash any deal .
 

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And that’s why investment is waiting for the most part until the bureaucracy is paved over…& I can’t say I’ve blamed them.
We were actually enjoying a slow and steady decline of the Bureaucracy during the Harper years but he was boring and scary .
 
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