Hamas attacks Israel

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu assured Israelis Saturday night that he only plans to halt the take over Gaza City if Hamas agrees to ALL of the Jewish state’s demands for ending the war — after the terror group reportedly signaled it was open to a partial cease-fire for the first time.

“We will agree to a deal on the condition that ALL the hostages are released in a single phase and in accordance with our terms for ending the war,” read the statement from Netanyahu’s office.

This could end ASAP if Hamas gives a shit about the Palestinians & chooses for it to end.

Those terms include the disarming of Hamas soldiers, the demilitarization of the Gaza Strip, Israeli control of the Gaza perimeter, and the installation of non-Hamas and non-Palestinian Authority governance that will live in peace with the Jewish state, according to the prime minister.

Netanyahu’s comments come after reports that the terror group had backtracked on its position and sent a message to mediators in Cairo this week expressing readiness to agree on a “partial deal” for the first time.

Previously, Hamas leaders had said they were only willing to settle for a full cease-fire deal, leading to the collapse of hostage talks in Qatar last month.

Hamas’ about face was first reported by Israeli television Friday evening, citing a classified document it had received from Netanyahu.
 

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Hmmm… any takers? I don’t suppose they’re asking Egypt or Lebanon or Syria or Jordan or Iraq or Iran or Saudi Arabia or the UAE? Maybe Kuwait? Qatar? People in that neighbourhood who’ve got first hand experience with Palestinian refugees already? That’s a shitty thing that that evil prick Netanyahu and those Jews are trying to do to remove at least a portion of Hamas’s (& Friends) Palestinian Dome until Hamas (& Friends) can be removed as a threat.
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says talks are underway with several countries about taking in Palestinians displaced by the war in Gazaagainst…shouldn’t that Hasbara be spanking Bibi for not being clear against whom this war is declared against?

The countries involved are South Sudan, Somaliland, Ethiopia, Libya, and Indonesia, a senior Israeli official told CNN. In exchange for taking in some of Gaza’s population of more than two million people, the official said the countries are looking for “significant financial and international compensation.”

Significant financial and international compensation? Praise Allah for the UN & UNRWA I guess? Or is it the countries that don’t want to accept Palestinians that need to pony up?
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Let them out’a the biggest open air prison in the world (I’ve heard)? What a bastard!!


This Hasbara is doing a pretty piss poor job if that’s their goal, isn’t it?? So, going forward, are all these folks (below) lying too? Are they all propagandists?
(YouTube & BATRA’S BURNING QUESTIONS: Don’t believe the propaganda, Israel isn’t the bad guy)

How ‘bout this dude? Clearly he must be lying! Right?
…& this guy? He Must be lying propaganda peddler, right?
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The votes from Canada, France and Britain are the fruits of October 7th, or so I’ve heard repeatedly in the last couple of days…

Weird question but, how many of those calling out for Israel to stand down, and increase aid, and take a knee, and so on and so forth, are also calling out on Hamas (& Friends) to release the 20-ish remaining holocaustages as well as the corpses of the other 30-ish that haven’t faired so well in the better part of the last two years?
They aren't going anywhere. Why should they?
 

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu assured Israelis Saturday night that he only plans to halt the take over Gaza City if Hamas agrees to ALL of the Jewish state’s demands for ending the war — after the terror group reportedly signaled it was open to a partial cease-fire for the first time.

“We will agree to a deal on the condition that ALL the hostages are released in a single phase and in accordance with our terms for ending the war,” read the statement from Netanyahu’s office.

This could end ASAP if Hamas gives a shit about the Palestinians & chooses for it to end.

Those terms include the disarming of Hamas soldiers, the demilitarization of the Gaza Strip, Israeli control of the Gaza perimeter, and the installation of non-Hamas and non-Palestinian Authority governance that will live in peace with the Jewish state, according to the prime minister.

Netanyahu’s comments come after reports that the terror group had backtracked on its position and sent a message to mediators in Cairo this week expressing readiness to agree on a “partial deal” for the first time.

Previously, Hamas leaders had said they were only willing to settle for a full cease-fire deal, leading to the collapse of hostage talks in Qatar last month.

Hamas’ about face was first reported by Israeli television Friday evening, citing a classified document it had received from Netanyahu.
As a State they'll need a standing army anyway. IDF, Shin Bet and Mossad was formed from three terrorist organizations why shouldn't that be replicated?
 

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They aren't going anywhere. Why should they?
If it’s the biggest open air prison, or so it’s claimed, on the planet & either Hamas surrenders or Israel is gonna flush that toilet, the Palestinians have to make a choice, or Hamas has to make a choice. Even the Arab League sees that, so what do you think Hamas is gonna do? Depending on that choice will determine what choice the Gazians have to make.
As a State they'll need a standing army anyway. IDF, Shin Bet and Mossad was formed from three terrorist organizations why shouldn't that be replicated?
So Shin Bet is like the FBI, & Mossad is like the CIA, & the IDF is like the Army & Navy & Air Force & Marines all rolled into one. Eventually Gaza will need at least the equivalent of the RCMP at least as a combination law enforcement/peace keeping force.
 

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If it’s the biggest open air prison, or so it’s claimed, on the planet & either Hamas surrenders or Israel is gonna flush that toilet, the Palestinians have to make a choice, or Hamas has to make a choice. Even the Arab League sees that, so what do you think Hamas is gonna do? Depending on that choice will determine what choice the Gazians have to make.

So Shin Bet is like the FBI, & Mossad is like the CIA, & the IDF is like the Army & Navy & Air Force & Marines all rolled into one. Eventually Gaza will need at least the equivalent of the RCMP at least as a combination law enforcement/peace keeping force.
Well, then it's time you started delineating between Hamas and Al Qassam. Hamas is the pencil pusher and Al Qassam is the military.

History does delineate Haganah Irgun and Lehi separately from Revisionist Zionism.

Today Revisonist Zionism goes by Likud.
 

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Well, then it's time you started delineating between Hamas and Al Qassam. Hamas is the pencil pusher and Al Qassam is the military.

History does delineate Haganah Irgun and Lehi separately from Revisionist Zionism.

Today Revisonist Zionism goes by Likud.
Is this circling back to the “If your auntie had balls…” question? Hamas is the Umbrella organization & Al Kabong is the military wing of that umbrella organization.

“Your Honour, I did not strike Mr. Smith, but merely my right fist, so you must delineate the difference between myself and my right fist!” (???)
 

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Is this circling back to the “If your auntie had balls…” question? Hamas is the Umbrella organization & Al Kabong is the military wing of that umbrella organization.

“Your Honour, I did not strike Mr. Smith, but merely my right fist, so you must delineate the difference between myself and my right fist!” (???)
You've got it Pontiac.

How many Nazi pencil pushers stood for trial in Nuremberg?

Lehi was trying to hitch its wagon to the Nazis DURING the Holocaust. Imagine the bizarre twist to the Holocaust had Hitler sponsored Lehi.

There is a giant hole you keep avoiding is Palestinians have a right to arm themselves and the right to use arms against Israel their oppressors. Had Al Qassam stuck to attacking IDF taking only POWs Oct 7 would have been 100% legal.
 
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Lehi was trying to hitch its wagon to the Nazis DURING the Holocaust. Imagine the bizarre twist to the Holocaust had Hitler sponsored Lehi.
That would be bizarre, as he (well, they actually) would’ve had to have sit on Hajj Amin al-Husayni’s lap. Can you imagine the memes if that happened? There’s just gotta be a goat joke in there somewhere.
How many Nazi pencil pushers stood for trial in Nuremberg?
How are you defining “pencil pushers?” Those that didn’t get their hands dirty? Like…Officers? I’m just trying to define the parameters for a search.

Good morning & Happy Sunday by the way!! My predictive text and AutoCorrect for spelling keeps changing Lehi to Lego so this has been a tough post.😁 Today I learned about the “Lehi Salute” which can be interpreted as “Two in the Pink & None in the Stink.” For the eight years that they existed, do you know what their newspaper was called?😳
 

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That would be bizarre, as he (well, they actually) would’ve had to have sit on Hajj Amin al-Husayni’s lap. Can you imagine the memes if that happened? There’s just gotta be a goat joke in there somewhere.

How are you defining “pencil pushers?” Those that didn’t get their hands dirty? Like…Officers? I’m just trying to define the parameters for a search.

Good morning & Happy Sunday by the way!! My predictive text and AutoCorrect for spelling keeps changing Lehi to Lego so this has been a tough post.😁 Today I learned about the “Lehi Salute” which can be interpreted as “Two in the Pink & None in the Stink.” For the eight years that they existed, do you know what their newspaper was called?😳
It's the same hand gesture Catholics use.

No idea their paper name.
 

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That would be bizarre, as he (well, they actually) would’ve had to have sit on Hajj Amin al-Husayni’s lap. Can you imagine the memes if that happened? There’s just gotta be a goat joke in there somewhere.

How are you defining “pencil pushers?” Those that didn’t get their hands dirty? Like…Officers? I’m just trying to define the parameters for a search.

Good morning & Happy Sunday by the way!! My predictive text and AutoCorrect for spelling keeps changing Lehi to Lego so this has been a tough post.😁 Today I learned about the “Lehi Salute” which can be interpreted as “Two in the Pink & None in the Stink.” For the eight years that they existed, do you know what their newspaper was called?😳
Sorry. It's like here. We don't fire federal employees when we change Gov't. Department heads change but bureaucracy remains the same.
 

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How’s that for a weird coincidence?
No coincidence. Bibi created Hamas. That can't be swept under the rug the meaning in Hebrew is a subtle "tip of the hand and a wink of the eye" if you know Hebrew.

HaMaas (Hebrew: המעש, HaMa'as, lit. 'the Action' or 'the Deed') was a weekly publication of the Lehi, an armed Zionist militant group and self-described terrorist organization.

The actions and deeds of Hamas without question benefits Israel immensely in preventing a Secular Palestinian State.

The lightbulb should have went off in your head when that Israeli MK said $1.6B was funneled through Qatar to build the tunnels.

Did Iran give Israel the $1.6B in cash to load up in suitcases to pass to Hamas through Qatar?

Maybe just maybe Iran didn't have any involvement in funding the tunnels.

Another bizzare piece of the pie that fits with Al Qassam being Israeli operatives was how a huge portion of released holocaustages all thanked Al-Qassam for their kindness and using their bodies as human shields while Gaza was being bombed overhead.

 
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There is a giant hole you keep avoiding is Palestinians have a right to arm themselves and the right to use arms against Israel their oppressors. Had Al Qassam stuck to attacking IDF taking only POWs Oct 7 would have been 100% legal.
Sorry, I missed this paragraph earlier.

Getting into the semantics of things, let me circle back to an earlier post of yours this morning.
History does delineate Haganah Irgun and Lehi separately from Revisionist Zionism.
Etc… as I think I can see where you’re trying to tie things together. Much like my question about how you’re defining “pencil pushers” regarding the Nazis in the Nuremberg trials, in order to try and answer what you’re (I think) asking I’m gonna need to know how you’re defining Palestinians here in relation to Hamas (& Friends)?
“Palestinians” (?) have a right to arm themselves and the right to use arms against Israel their oppressors.
Palestinians as in “all Palestinians” as in a whole (?) or Palestinians as in their governing body being the recognized terrorist group called “Hamas”???

A blanket statement doesn’t apply without the parameters to define the statement.

{All Hamas are Palestinians (more or less and that’s a separate debate unto itself), but not all Palestinians are Hamas}
Had Al Qassam stuck to attacking IDF taking only POWs Oct 7 would have been 100% legal.
Yeah…but that not even close to what happened, & circles the drain back to the whole “If your Aunt had balls thing?”

Then, with this post here:
Sorry. It's like here. We don't fire federal employees when we change Gov't. Department heads change but bureaucracy remains the same.
Are you vaguely and indirectly non-answering this question?
How are you defining “pencil pushers?” Those that didn’t get their hands dirty? Like…Officers? I’m just trying to define the parameters for a search.
With respect to this question?
How many Nazi pencil pushers stood for trial in Nuremberg?
No coincidence.
Actually, we might have to agree to disagree on this one because “Bibi” didn’t name Hamas, as it’s in an acronym for “Islamic Resistance Movement” from an Arabic name (pronounced as two syllables), and HaMa’as (three syllables) is a Hebrew name, but that’s neither here or there.
Bibi created Hamas the meaning in Hebrew is a subtle "tip of the hand and a wink of the eye" if you know Hebrew.

HaMaas (Hebrew: המעש, HaMa'as, lit. 'the Action' or 'the Deed') was a weekly publication of the Lehi, an armed Zionist militant group and self-described terrorist organization.

The actions and deeds of Hamas without question benefits Israel immensely in preventing a Secular Palestinian State.
Had somebody wandering for coffee about an hour and a half ago so I’ll come back to this in a while
 

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Next group coming for coffee to probably arrive shortly….then once they jump to aquariums after coffee, I’m jumping to lawns (ours and a few others)….but’ll come back to this when time permits.
 

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Sorry, I missed this paragraph earlier.

Getting into the semantics of things, let me circle back to an earlier post of yours this morning.

Etc… as I think I can see where you’re trying to tie things together. Much like my question about how you’re defining “pencil pushers” regarding the Nazis in the Nuremberg trials, in order to try and answer what you’re (I think) asking I’m gonna need to know how you’re defining Palestinians here in relation to Hamas (& Friends)?

Palestinians as in “all Palestinians” as in a whole (?) or Palestinians as in their governing body being the recognized terrorist group called “Hamas”???

A blanket statement doesn’t apply without the parameters to define the statement.

{All Hamas are Palestinians (more or less and that’s a separate debate unto itself), but not all Palestinians are Hamas}

Yeah…but that not even close to what happened, & circles the drain back to the whole “If your Aunt had balls thing?”

Then, with this post here:

Are you vaguely and indirectly non-answering this question?

With respect to this question?


Actually, we might have to agree to disagree on this one because “Bibi” didn’t name Hamas, as it’s in an acronym for “Islamic Resistance Movement” from an Arabic name (pronounced as two syllables), and HaMa’as (three syllables) is a Hebrew name, but that’s neither here or there.

Had somebody wandering for coffee about an hour and a half ago so I’ll come back to this in a while
I'll answer this so you get it. Israelis and Palestinians don't call Al Qassam Hamas. That's a western media that calls Al Qassam Hamas. A perfect example of Hasbara.
 

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Aug 16 2025

When interviewer Sharon Gal with the Israeli i24NEWS channel asked Netanyahu if he subscribed to a “vision” for a “Greater Israel”, Netanyahu said “absolutely”. Asked during the interview aired on Tuesday if he felt connected to the “Greater Israel” vision, Netanyahu said: “Very much.”

The “Greater Israel” concept supported by ultranationalist Israelis is understood to refer to an expansionist vision that lays claim to the occupied West Bank, Gaza, parts of Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and Jordan.


Is everyone waiting for the tanks to roll into Jordan to believe Israel has gone off of the deep end and a made a beeline into the shallow end of the gene pool?
 

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Is everyone waiting for the tanks to roll into Jordan to believe Israel has gone off of the deep end and a made a beeline into the shallow end of the gene pool?
I’m just taking a break from mowing before I go back for round two, as it went for being pretty damn cool this morning to mug and gross if you’re actually doing labour-ish stuff this afternoon.

So, is “everybody” waiting for the tanks to roll into Jordan something something Jews? Is that a thing that’s actually happening?
1755463175621.jpegJordan was never promised to those Jews, as it was supposed to be the Palestinian side of the solution way back when, before Brittish decision-makers cleaved off TransJordan before trying to attempt to subdivide the Israeli portion that was left into Arab/Jewish segments. If anything you would think the “Palestinians” would want TransJordan back to rock it Black September-Style…but that’s neither here or there I guess as far as precedence goes.
1755462881599.jpegThe only thing to the best of my knowledge at this point in time that Israel has taken from Jordan was the chunk of ground Jordan had annexed between 1948 and 1967.
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