Hamas attacks Israel

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Killed by Hamas or IDF tanks?
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Where were the 40 beheaded babies found? How about the ones stuffed in an oven?
There’s two sides, at least, and neither are angels. I’ve only heard about the one baked in an oven in front of its parents, but somehow all had to be killed in that manner or none of them died at all. It’s totally bizarre.

We just got company so I have to come back to this.
 

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(YouTube & What is the Hannibal Directive?

There’s two sides, at least, and neither are angels. I’ve only heard about the one baked in an oven in front of its parents, but somehow all had to be killed in that manner or none of them died at all. It’s totally bizarre.

We just got company so I have to come back to this.
The one baked in an oven never happened either.

Ryan McBeth is full of shit.



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The recordings from the difficult meeting between the hostages and their families and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the other members of the war cabinet reveal the shocking testimonies from inside the Gaza Strip, and the anger of the released and their relatives over the government's conduct.

Another abductee who returned with her children, but whose husband remained in Hamas captivity, said: "The feeling we had there was that no one was doing anything for us. The fact is that I was in a hideout that was shelled and we were forced to be smuggled and wounded. Not including the helicopter that shot at us on the way to Gaza. You claim that there is intelligence, but the fact is that we are being shelled. My husband was separated from us three days before we returned to Israel and taken to the tunnels. And you are talking about washing the tunnels with seawater? You are shelling the tunnel route in the exact area where they are. The girls ask me where is dad? And I have to tell them that the bad guys don't want to release him yet."

I'll take the word of a holocaustage long before Ryan McBeth
 
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Ron in Regina

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Where were the 40 beheaded babies found? How about the ones stuffed in an oven?
There’s two sides, at least, and neither are angels. I’ve only heard about the one baked in an oven in front of its parents, but somehow all had to be killed in that manner or none of them died at all. It’s totally bizarre.

We just got company so I have to come back to this.
The one baked in an oven never happened either.
Ok. You can state this based upon….?
Ryan McBeth is full of shit.
Is everyone that states something that you don’t believe or agree with, or doesn’t conform to your preconceived whatever a propagandist? Is this guy also full of shit, or is the guy he spoke to full of shit? It can’t be that he’s honestly stating the things he’s seen and experienced, right?
(YouTube & Hamas Torture Bodycam Footage: "These Monsters Filmed it All" | IDF Warfighter Doron Keidar, Ep. 225)
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The above is now censored, but I’ve watched that interview before it was censored, so it must be bullshit? Right?

Is this one of those, “If you can’t attack the message, then attack the messenger?” sort’a things? That’s a little…propaganda-ish…isn’t it?

Hate to say it, but You weren’t there, & I wasn’t there either. Neither one of us is omnipresent and all knowing. There’s a lot of shit out there, & it’s ugly….but you weren’t there & I wasn’t there.
And all those fake rapes you believed in? Still believe?
Are you talking about Oct 7th which you’ve said was legal & justified? This I mean:
So that was fake ‘cuz Jews or something?
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I’m sure in the absolute chaos of Oct 7th there would be friendly fire, and a boatload of unfriendly fire. I’m sure damn near every conflict there’s friendly fire. How many conflicts have Canadians been involved in that Americans haven’t shot them…well, some of them, & regardless of Trump and his stupidity, it’s not like Canadians and Americans aren’t allies.

Because in damn near every conflict, some Canadians end up killed by Americans in friendly fire incidents, it doesn’t mean that every Canadian killed in an armed conflict is killed by an American. There aren’t absolutes here, and sometimes multiple things can be true at the same time.

Anyway, I’m running on about an hours worth of sleep since yesterday morning at 6 AM so I’m heading for bed.
 

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Ok. You can state this based upon….?

Is everyone that states something that you don’t believe or agree with, or doesn’t conform to your preconceived whatever a propagandist? Is this guy also full of shit, or is the guy he spoke to full of shit? It can’t be that he’s honestly stating the things he’s seen and experienced, right?
(YouTube & Hamas Torture Bodycam Footage: "These Monsters Filmed it All" | IDF Warfighter Doron Keidar, Ep. 225)
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The above is now censored, but I’ve watched that interview before it was censored, so it must be bullshit? Right?

Is this one of those, “If you can’t attack the message, then attack the messenger?” sort’a things? That’s a little…propaganda-ish…isn’t it?

Hate to say it, but You weren’t there, & I wasn’t there either. Neither one of us is omnipresent and all knowing. There’s a lot of shit out there, & it’s ugly….but you weren’t there & I wasn’t there.

Are you talking about Oct 7th which you’ve said was legal & justified? This I mean:
So that was fake ‘cuz Jews or something?
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I’m sure in the absolute chaos of Oct 7th there would be friendly fire, and a boatload of unfriendly fire. I’m sure damn near every conflict there’s friendly fire. How many conflicts have Canadians been involved in that Americans haven’t shot them…well, some of them, & regardless of Trump and his stupidity, it’s not like Canadians and Americans aren’t allies.

Because in damn near every conflict, some Canadians end up killed by Americans in friendly fire incidents, it doesn’t mean that every Canadian killed in an armed conflict is killed by an American. There aren’t absolutes here, and sometimes multiple things can be true at the same time.

Anyway, I’m running on about an hours worth of sleep since yesterday morning at 6 AM so I’m heading for bed.
Reality. All proven bullshit from

Research Yossi Landau and ZARKA for the beheaded babies, babies on oven baby cut out of womb and mass rapes never happened. It's sad you wish the did.



Hannibal proof. Very very unfriendly fire admitted to. Why are you so far behind.

Admission by Israeli defense minister​

In February 2025, Israeli defense minister Yoav Gallant admitted that the Hannibal Directive had been used by the IDF during the Gaza war.[86][87][88]


On video yet.

 
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Hate to say it, but You weren’t there, & I wasn’t there either. Neither one of us is omnipresent and all knowing. There’s a lot of shit out there, & it’s ugly….but you weren’t there & I wasn’t there.
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There aren’t absolutes here, and sometimes multiple things can be true at the same time.
It’s sad that I wished they did? In the censored video above, Doron Keidar was there. You & I were not there. Is he lying ‘cuz you don’t like what he says? Does that also make him full of shit? Is he now not on your approved list of source videos that you’re assigning others to watch, this making what he’s stating propaganda?
 
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And they wonder why Palestinians are pissed off.


"Smotrich said it would thwart the idea of a Palestinian state "because there is nothing to recognise and no one to recognise"."
 
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And they wonder why Palestinians are pissed off.


"Smotrich said it would thwart the idea of a Palestinian state "because there is nothing to recognise and no one to recognise"."
And in a “balance in the universe” sort’a thing, here’s the other side mirroring this:
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Hmmmm…regarding the New York Declaration, which is the document that commits the participating countries, including Canada, to take “collective action to end the war in Gaza” and forge a “lasting settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict” through a negotiated two-state solution. It condemns terrorism and calls on Hamas to “free all hostages.” It calls for an end to “violence in all its forms and any destabilizing role of non-state actors.” And it seeks the unification of Gaza and the West Bank, while noting that, “Hamas must end its rule in Gaza and hand over its weapons.”

But Hamas and its allies have a different view. Commenting directly on the New York Declaration, the terrorist groups welcomed international efforts “to support our Palestinian people and their legitimate rights,” which they said came about as a “direct result of the expansion of international solidarity with our people caused by the destructive Zionist war and the increased pressure this placed on the international community.”

In other words: Hamas’s efforts to turn world opinion against Israel by using its own people as human shields and prolonging their suffering by refusing to end the war has been an unmitigated success.
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Rather than laying down their arms and releasing the hostages in order to realize their stated dream of an “independent, fully sovereign state,” the terrorists “demand unconditional international recognition” of a Palestinian state, which they claim as an “inalienable” right that “cannot be negotiated or postponed.”

Hamas agrees with much of the rest of the world that a ceasefire should take effect in Gaza, but says it “must be implemented immediately, without linking it to any political issues,” such as the release of the remaining hostages. Nor are the terrorist groups at all willing to renounce violence. In fact, they say that “Palestinian resistance in all its forms is a natural and legitimate response” to Israel’s “occupation,” and that their “resistance will not cease until the occupation ends and our people achieve their goals.”

And those goals do not include two states living side by side in peace, but a Palestinian state that stretches from the river to the sea, with any Jews left alive forced to fend for themselves in the Mediterranean. Did out the water-wings.

They reject any talk of forging a lasting peace between Israel and its neighbours, saying that it would only “prolong (Israel’s) presence on our usurped land,” and demand not only an independent state with “Jerusalem as its capital,” but the “return of refugees” — i.e., allowing the descendants of the Arabs who fled Israel during its War of Independence 77 years ago to return, ensuing it would no longer be both a Jewish and a democratic state.

Hamas and its fellow jihadists leave no doubt that the only “solution” that would be acceptable to them is one in which a Jewish state doesn’t exist anywhere in the Middle East. This aligns with Hamas’s founding charter — which references the group’s “struggle against the Jews,” and says that, “In face of the Jews’ usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of jihad be raised” — and its brutal October 7 massacre of 1,200 people in Israel.

And although the terror groups say they are open to elections, they have no intention of ceding power to more moderate forces, as Canada and its partners demand. Instead, they call for a “national unity” government and for elections to be held “without any preconditions.”

It’s easy for Prime Minister Mark Carney to say that Canada’s recognition is predicated on the PA’s commitment to “fundamentally reform its governance, to hold general elections in 2026 in which Hamas can play no part and to demilitarize the Palestinian state.” But in reality, the PA holds no power in Gaza, and Hamas has made it clear that it will not step aside or disarm until it has achieved its genocidal goal of wiping Israel off the face of the earth. It’s good to have goals.
Carney and other world leaders seem to think they can conjure a Palestinian state out of thin air — that with faith, trust and a little bit of pixie dust they can resolve one of the world’s most intractable conflicts. In doing so, they have played right into the hands of Hamas, which clearly has no intention of following the path laid out by the New York Declaration, or of allowing the PA to fulfill the commitments it made to Canada and Australia.

It’s hard to see how the world will be able to force Hamas’s hand without going into Gaza and forcefully rooting out the terrorists — the very type of operation that Israel is currently conducting.
 
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Hmmmm…regarding the New York Declaration, which is the document that commits the participating countries, including Canada, to take “collective action to end the war in Gaza” and forge a “lasting settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict” through a negotiated two-state solution. It condemns terrorism and calls on Hamas to “free all hostages.” It calls for an end to “violence in all its forms and any destabilizing role of non-state actors.” And it seeks the unification of Gaza and the West Bank, while noting that, “Hamas must end its rule in Gaza and hand over its weapons.”
Are settlers leaving the West Bank or does that come after the 151 Nations that recognize Palestinian sovereignty and independence boycott Israel?
 

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And they wonder why Palestinians are pissed off.


"Smotrich said it would thwart the idea of a Palestinian state "because there is nothing to recognise and no one to recognise"."
Baelzebub Smotrich is sick fuck that needs to be liquidated up shoved up Ben-Gvir’s asshole.
 

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It’s sad that I wished they did? In the censored video above, Doron Keidar was there. You & I were not there. Is he lying ‘cuz you don’t like what he says? Does that also make him full of shit? Is he now not on your approved list of source videos that you’re assigning others to watch, this making what he’s stating propaganda?

How Many Children Were Killed In Hamas's October 7 Attack?​

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AFP - Agence France Presse
Oct 11, 2024, 2:51 pm EDT



A year on from Hamas's unprecedented attack on Israel on October 7, unsubstantiated claims about the number of children killed have maintained traction, whereas an AFP tally established that 37 minors died, including two babies.
Social media posts in Hebrew, French, or English have claimed dozens of babies were killed by the Palestinian Islamist movement, some of them decapitated or mutilated, and one even burned alive in an oven.

During the onslaught on Israel on October 7, 2023, Hamas led attacks across southern Israel that saw the militants murder civilians en masse and take hostages, as they burned homes and targeted communities with a variety of small arms and rockets.

The exact details of some of the atrocities, however, remain disputed. Some of the claims made by Israeli officials and shared online in social media are not backed by publicly available data or records.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu himself stated, at the United Nations in New York on September 27, that "they burned babies alive" during Hamas's attack on October 7, 2023.

According to an AFP tally based on data from Israeli authorities, only two children under the age of five were confirmed killed during the onslaught.


2 babies, one an emergency cesarean after the IDF shot her in the back running away. The other was shot by IDF.

The guy in that video is a fucking lying piece of shit.
 
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The Great Hasbara Report


"Hasbara," (propaganda) from the Hebrew word for "explanation," refers to a public diplomacy and communication strategy employed by Israel and its supporters. It focuses on explaining and justifying Israeli actions and policies, often in response to criticism, particularly concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
Key Aspects of Hasbara:
  • Public Diplomacy:
    Hasbara is a form of public diplomacy aimed at shaping international perceptions of Israel.

  • Explanation and Justification:
    It involves providing explanations and narratives to justify Israeli actions, even when those actions are controversial or criticized.

  • Reactive and Event-Driven:
    Hasbara is often described as reactive because it tends to respond to specific events and criticisms rather than proactively setting the agenda.

  • Pro-Israel Advocacy:
    Hasbara efforts often involve promoting pro-Israel viewpoints and countering what are perceived as anti-Israel narratives.

  • Campus Activism:
    Organizations like Hasbara Fellowships train students to be pro-Israel advocates on college campuses.

  • Online Engagement:
    Hasbara also involves online activities, including social media campaigns and efforts to influence online discussions.

  • Controversies:
    Hasbara has been criticized for its potential to be manipulative, misleading, and for stifling open discussion and debate.
Examples of Hasbara Activities:
  • Disseminating information about Israeli policies and actions:
    This can include providing background information, context, and justifications for specific actions.

  • Countering negative narratives about Israel:
    This might involve refuting claims of human rights abuses, biased media coverage, or accusations of war crimes.

  • Promoting Israel's image as a democratic and technologically advanced nation:
    This can involve highlighting Israel's contributions to various fields, such as medicine, technology, and agriculture.

  • Engaging with students and young people on college campuses:
    This can involve bringing students to Israel for educational programs and training them to be effective advocates for Israel.
In essence, hasbara is a multifaceted strategy that combines public diplomacy, information dissemination, and advocacy to shape international perceptions of Israel and its policies.
 

Ron in Regina

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In essence, hasbara is a multifaceted strategy that combines public diplomacy, information dissemination, and advocacy to shape international perceptions of Israel and its policies.
Sorta like so many other entities and nations, & I could list many many, but it’s just like banging my head against the wall so….I’ll leave it at that.

Does Palestinian have the equivalent? Does Canada? Hamas? Iran? America? Hezbollah? Etc…?
 

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Sorta like so many other entities and nations, & I could list many many, but it’s just like banging my head against the wall so….I’ll leave it at that.

Does Palestinian have the equivalent? Does Canada? Hamas? Iran? America? Hezbollah? Etc…?
Hasbara Canada is the Canadian branch of Hasbara Fellowships, a pro-Israel advocacy organization that trains and empowers student leaders to be advocates for Israel on university and high school campuses. They send students to Israel for intensive training programs, focusing on practical advocacy and experiential learning, and provide ongoing support and resources upon their return.

Not what you're looking for?

Does Canada have Ministry of Propaganda?

Where do I send the Academy Award nomination for the guy who says he saw video of a baby in an oven?
 

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If Israel can't seem to allow an existence of a Palestinian state, then the UN should no longer recognize Israel, as per Resolution 181.

"On November 29, 1947 the United Nations adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) that would divide Great Britain’s former Palestinian mandate into Jewish and Arab states in May 1948 when the British mandate was scheduled to end. Under the resolution, the area of religious significance surrounding Jerusalem would remain a corpus separatum under international control administered by the United Nations."


(I'm aware resolutions have been passed since then and wars have happened and on and on, but this was the ORIGINAL UN Resolution. And I'm also aware the Palestinians did not agree to this original Resolution while the Israeli's and the reason why is... happening right now. Guess they saw the writing on the wall even that far back.)
 

Ron in Regina

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1.rescue hostages
2. a right to defend themselves
3. humanitarian zone

4. Annex Gaza

Hmmm… any takers? I don’t suppose they’re asking Egypt or Lebanon or Syria or Jordan or Iraq or Iran or Saudi Arabia or the UAE? Maybe Kuwait? Qatar? People in that neighbourhood who’ve got first hand experience with Palestinian refugees already? That’s a shitty thing that that evil prick Netanyahu and those Jews are trying to do to remove at least a portion of Hamas’s (& Friends) Palestinian Dome until Hamas (& Friends) can be removed as a threat.
1755214875851.jpegI’m gonna click on your link. Survey Says!!!:

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says talks are underway with several countries about taking in Palestinians displaced by the war in Gazaagainst…shouldn’t that Hasbara be spanking Bibi for not being clear against whom this war is declared against?

The countries involved are South Sudan, Somaliland, Ethiopia, Libya, and Indonesia, a senior Israeli official told CNN. In exchange for taking in some of Gaza’s population of more than two million people, the official said the countries are looking for “significant financial and international compensation.”

Significant financial and international compensation? Praise Allah for the UN & UNRWA I guess? Or is it the countries that don’t want to accept Palestinians that need to pony up?
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Let them out’a the biggest open air prison in the world (I’ve heard)? What a bastard!!
The Great Hasbara Report


"Hasbara," (propaganda) from the Hebrew word for "explanation," refers to a public diplomacy and communication strategy employed by Israel and its supporters. It focuses on explaining and justifying Israeli actions and policies, often in response to criticism, particularly concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
Key Aspects of Hasbara:
  • Public Diplomacy:
    Hasbara is a form of public diplomacy aimed at shaping international perceptions of Israel.

  • Explanation and Justification:
    It involves providing explanations and narratives to justify Israeli actions, even when those actions are controversial or criticized.

  • Reactive and Event-Driven:
    Hasbara is often described as reactive because it tends to respond to specific events and criticisms rather than proactively setting the agenda.

  • Pro-Israel Advocacy:
    Hasbara efforts often involve promoting pro-Israel viewpoints and countering what are perceived as anti-Israel narratives.

  • Campus Activism:
    Organizations like Hasbara Fellowships train students to be pro-Israel advocates on college campuses.

  • Online Engagement:
    Hasbara also involves online activities, including social media campaigns and efforts to influence online discussions.

  • Controversies:
    Hasbara has been criticized for its potential to be manipulative, misleading, and for stifling open discussion and debate.
Examples of Hasbara Activities:
  • Disseminating information about Israeli policies and actions:
    This can include providing background information, context, and justifications for specific actions.

  • Countering negative narratives about Israel:
    This might involve refuting claims of human rights abuses, biased media coverage, or accusations of war crimes.

  • Promoting Israel's image as a democratic and technologically advanced nation:
    This can involve highlighting Israel's contributions to various fields, such as medicine, technology, and agriculture.

  • Engaging with students and young people on college campuses:
    This can involve bringing students to Israel for educational programs and training them to be effective advocates for Israel.
In essence, hasbara is a multifaceted strategy that combines public diplomacy, information dissemination, and advocacy to shape international perceptions of Israel and its policies.
This Hasbara is doing a pretty piss poor job if that’s their goal, isn’t it?? So, going forward, are all these folks (below) lying too? Are they all propagandists?
(YouTube & BATRA’S BURNING QUESTIONS: Don’t believe the propaganda, Israel isn’t the bad guy)

How ‘bout this dude? Clearly he must be lying! Right?
…& this guy? He Must be lying propaganda peddler, right?
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The votes from Canada, France and Britain are the fruits of October 7th, or so I’ve heard repeatedly in the last couple of days…
Shitty shit happens in a war zone, during a war. Probably would’ve been a bad idea to share a tent in a war zone with Yaho Sinwar also.

Yes, why did Israel retaliate now and not before Oct 7th 2023? That is a conundrum. Might remain one of life’s mysteries.
Weird question but, how many of those calling out for Israel to stand down, and increase aid, and take a knee, and so on and so forth, are also calling out on Hamas (& Friends) to release the 20-ish remaining holocaustages as well as the corpses of the other 30-ish that haven’t faired so well in the better part of the last two years?
 

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Who’s lying here? Damn propaganda pricks! Is it those dirty Jews or those World Central Kitchen arseholes? Maybe both!!
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This is probably a cover up though, and disinformation or misinformation, maybe both!
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This has gotta be one of those Hasbro things. WCK said late on Tuesday that it was contacted by Israeli authorities and confirmed the vehicle and people were not linked. "We strongly condemn anyone posing as WCK or other humanitarians as this endangers civilians and aid workers," it said in a statement on X.😳.
Is this 1000% disproven yet cause something something Jews?
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These are just tribal members guarding something or another ‘cuz they’re hungry and multiple things absolutely can’t be true at the same time, etc…